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    Quote Originally Posted by alvaro View Post
    i think victoria would be funnier if you could start since the begining of industrial revolution.
    also i miss a paradox game including the independence of spanish america.
    Have any Paradox games included the independence of Spanish America?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilcoxchar View Post
    Have any Paradox games included the independence of Spanish America?
    EU3 did.

    And as for the 50,000 BC comment, That might actually be kinda cool, though not till 1835 and certainly not at the rate of 1 day at a time
    I should go.

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    I think if the conditions are right a spanish america might be a good outcome ( perhaps in the case mexico beats the united states) as a trigger or optional event for mexico to convert itself into spanish america perhaps

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    Quote Originally Posted by alvaro View Post
    i think victoria would be funnier if you could start since the begining of industrial revolution.
    also i miss a paradox game including the independence of spanish america.
    I dont mean to sound rude but why the hell would you want an in-depth strategy game to be funny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRalphWiggum View Post
    I dont mean to sound rude but why the hell would you want an in-depth strategy game to be funny?
    He meant it as "more fun".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollobrains View Post
    I think if the conditions are right a spanish america might be a good outcome ( perhaps in the case mexico beats the united states) as a trigger or optional event for mexico to convert itself into spanish america perhaps
    i'm sorry, i think i misleaded the conversation with the term. what i meant with spanish america is just a geographical concept including all parts of the subcontinents that have been part of spain; i didn't mean that spanish america should be made a possible what-if country.
    anyhow, that huge country is the federation that simon bolivar had in mind so it could be a nice option for the game. still, it should be properly simulated and, being covered by the last years of EU3 it doesn't seem good enough to me. paradox could make of it an exciting feature for a game as well as an original one (afaik no game deals with it).
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    I'd prefer Victoria not to include the period 1815-1835. Who doesn't love to recover Latin America playing as Carlist Spain? Bad luck, Bolívar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolus III View Post
    I'd prefer Victoria not to include the period 1815-1835. Who doesn't love to recover Latin America playing as Carlist Spain? Bad luck, Bolívar
    bah, these imperialist spaniards spoil the spirit of the game
    you need to look at it this way. it's not about the independence from spain but a rebellion against fernando vii
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRalphWiggum View Post
    I dont mean to sound rude but why the hell would you want an in-depth strategy game to be funny?
    i never do anything if there is no fun at all do you?
    it's game, mate!

    but also quite agree with you, the more in-depth the more i'll enjoy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alvaro View Post
    i never do anything if there is no fun at all do you?
    it's game, mate!

    but also quite agree with you, the more in-depth the more i'll enjoy it.
    To native English speakers, 'funny' means something to laugh about, not just something you enjoy doing... your English is a lot better than my Spanish, so I'm not having a go at you, but you might want to bear that in mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRalphWiggum View Post
    To native English speakers, 'funny' means something to laugh about, not just something you enjoy doing... your English is a lot better than my Spanish, so I'm not having a go at you, but you might want to bear that in mind
    Yes. "More fun" is a good replacement for "funnier". Have no idea why, since they mean the same, but in a sentence can have a totally different meaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRalphWiggum View Post
    To native English speakers, 'funny' means something to laugh about, not just something you enjoy doing... your English is a lot better than my Spanish, so I'm not having a go at you, but you might want to bear that in mind
    yup, sorry
    the most embarrasing thing is that i lived 6 years abroad 2 of them in england. languages a life to learn them properly, a week to forget
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    Quote Originally Posted by alvaro View Post
    yup, sorry
    the most embarrasing thing is that i lived 6 years abroad 2 of them in england. languages a life to learn them properly, a week to forget
    Like I said, I couldn't string two words of Spanish together and you are more or less fluent in English, so dont feel too bad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aenariel View Post
    Yes. "More fun" is a good replacement for "funnier". Have no idea why, since they mean the same, but in a sentence can have a totally different meaning.
    I believe they don't mean the same. "More fun" is "funner", not "funnier". Even if using "funner" makes one sound like an idiot.

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    Noooooooooooooo !

    Starting from 1835 ?! Recreating Poland with the small Krakow ??? Not again... Why not start in 1820 ? With Congress Poland still being satellite of Russia ? You would get some extra Polish customers this way, you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redhead View Post
    Starting from 1835 ?! Recreating Poland with the small Krakow ??? Not again... Why not start in 1820 ? With Congress Poland still being satellite of Russia ? You would get some extra Polish customers this way, you know
    They'll just have to wait for the XP

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    Oh no please not started in 1835 the best period is 1820 -1935

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRalphWiggum View Post
    They'll just have to wait for the XP
    Don't post things like that first. Let's go through the plan of action here

    1) Make Victoria II
    2) ????
    3) Profit

    Ok that's a joke, seriously

    1) We make Victoria II
    2) Let's just see how well it does
    3) Then depending on demand we may choose to make an expansion pack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King View Post
    Don't post things like that first. Let's go through the plan of action here

    1) Make Victoria II
    2) ????
    3) Profit

    Ok that's a joke, seriously

    1) We make Victoria II
    2) Let's just see how well it does
    3) Then depending on demand we may choose to make an expansion pack.
    But you have to admit (although I know you won't here because of the repercussions), that little gap would be mighty tempting should an XP ever get made...

    King, was the possibility of the continuity of playing an EU3>Vicky2>Hoi3 a factor in vicky 2 getting the go ahead, out of a matter of interest?

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    If they were going to earlier periods then surely they would try to include the Napoleonic wars?

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