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Rommel 459

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• Aug 19, 2009

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i know this is the first day of the games announcement and all, but any idea whether you guys will include AI control of certain features(as you did with HOI3)? and if so what will be given the option to be AI controllable?

or has that not yet been discussed?

EDIT : i emu'd the thread started WOW... sorry, RedRalph, a mod made me do it

 

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• Aug 19, 2009

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Vicky 2 ideas & suggestions

The inevitable thread. Might be one for stickying.

Go ahead folks, I'll chime in with a bucketload of my own in a while

 

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Vicky 2 CE should have a monocle included.

Okay, serious suggestions coming up later.

 

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No details yet, but Victoria will be based off HoI3 with all the automation concepts from it.

 

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I don't want to be too specific, but the key is to reduce micromanagement in a HOI3 style. If a player doesn't want to deal with every aspect, he may leave those to the AI.

More realistic migrations, not everyone in one state.

And leave the POP system, or something similar to it, IN. Don't dumb it down too much

 

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Keeping the flags system is the best suggestion I can think of right now.

 

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• Aug 19, 2009

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Sarmatian said:

I don't want to be too specific, but the key is to reduce micromanagement in a HOI3 style. If a player doesn't want to deal with every aspect, he may leave those to the AI.

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Nonsense, micromanage, en masse!

th3freakie said:

Keeping the flags system is the best suggestion I can think of right now.

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I'd actually pay more money for that!

 

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• Aug 19, 2009

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Prinz Wilhelm said:

Nonsense, micromanage, en masse!



I'd actually pay more money for that!

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Exactly!!

 

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The comment about "gunboat" diplomacy just reminds me that it would be nice to see fleets be important this time around. And as far as colonialism goes, it would be kewl if pops would migrate to your colonies organically instead of only when you do something strange and contrived to force them. Beyond that, I'm still mum with joy.

 

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I hope for AI-control in pop management (or better a completely overhauled system) and trade. But you really don't want to give diplomacy to the AI in Vicky, do you?

Would be neat to have your generals take care of the boring fronts in your wars against Russia, though.

 

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• Aug 19, 2009

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Make the upper house/senate thing have as many seats as you have states.

 

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• Aug 19, 2009

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Trade system: learn from the venerable "Imperialism"

Trade should influence the relations between the nations. If two countries are intervined economically, supplying each other's industries with necessary goods, raw materials and lucrative markets, the diplomatic climate should improve. If the countries are hardcore concurrents in production of luxury furniture, the relationship shall stagnate and detoriate. The countries should also prefer to sell their produce to their friends, not merely dump it on the world market from which the most prestigeous country gets them.

I know, hard to implement, but there must be a way.

 

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• Aug 19, 2009

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okay, cool, thanks for the quick response, and good morning btw

edit : my thoughts on the pop exactly mannheim

 

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• Aug 19, 2009

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I think that the POP-split feature should be available from 10.000-15.000 units, not over 35.000 like Vicky. I think that was very problematic to smaller countries to industrialize.
Give also the EUIII diplomatic feature to request "liberate country", this is particularly useful when fighting multicultural empires .
Oh, and what about a spy system?

 

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Prinz Wilhelm said:

Nonsense, micromanage, en masse!

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I enjoy micromanagement up to a certain point. I'm fine with most of it in Vicky, except with manual POP promotion. I won't mind that going.

 

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Give also the EUIII diplomatic feature to request "liberate country", this is particularly useful when fighting multicultural empires

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PLEASE. I can't even count how many times I've had to fiddle with save files and load up as my enemy to break them up following a sufficiently crushing defeat.

 

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wilcoxchar said:

Make the upper house/senate thing have as many seats as you have states.

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No.

Natural Emigration also. Have steady currents, which increase, decrease, or reverse with the economic conditions.

 

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Do something about immigrant countries with 100+ millions working in a single province in a singel RGO. Might even use it as a means to achieving historical emmigration. That would've been swell, except for the uruaguayan nationalists out there ofc...

 

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Guys, you have to think about bigger countries. Playing some smaller countries isn't that demanding but playing China, Russia, UK... was nightmare.

When you get 150+ millions population, it gets tedious.

That's why I'm saying: Leave the micromanagement for those who want and when they want it but include option to automate it, in whole and in part...

Maintaining or even increasing complexity of the original game while reducing the micromanagement and creating an AI that can deal with it is the single biggest challenge and the most important thing about a new Victoria game.

 

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• Aug 19, 2009

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A mixture of all the best features of Vicky, EU3, HOI and Rome would be best. The trickling conversion of pop types was nice in Rome (though, it could get difficult with multi-ethnic provinces and more pop types). The war resolution of EU3 was very good. Long-term influencing of countries in HOI3 sounds interesting. HOI-style missions wouldn't a bad addition (especially for the navy), but shouldn't overly complicate the war effort. HOI3 research system coupled with Vicky's inventions.

And the depth of Vicky's political & demographic system would be the overreaching constant that ties it all together. Hopefully, it will also be quite a bit less fantasy-style history than EU3 or (heaven forbid) HOI3.