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    Quote Originally Posted by Asalto View Post
    I like the new system of alliances a lot.
    Me too.

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    Btw, France won't be allied with UK anymore?
    Under some circumstances the British Commonwealth and PATO may get merged into one alliance. In that case all those nations become Allies.

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    NATO is Organización del Tratado del Atlántico Norte in spanish.
    What's the Spanish for Paris Treaty Organization ? Just curious
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    "Paris Tratado Organizacion" I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRHINDO View Post
    "Paris Tratado Organizacion" I suppose.
    In this case the abbreviation PATO fits the Spanish language as well, doesn't it ?
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    In this case the abbreviation PATO fits the Spanish language as well, doesn't it ?
    Nay. It'd be 'Organización del Tratado de París' (OTP, or OTPA).
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    Quote Originally Posted by omega20 View Post
    Nay. It'd be 'Organización del Tratado de París' (OTP, or OTPA).
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    The French will have PATO and Spanishs will have OTPA?
    Its the same situation Tunch Khan denonced but reversed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    Although I didn't make any events for Poland to join PATO, she is traditionally very friendly to France. I tested the last update a few times. As a rule Poland AI is very much inclined to join France and her allies. So, it's very likely that Poland will be a member of PATO
    That sounds good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tired Dude View Post
    That sounds good.

    Thanks for your approval
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    The Italian Navy is damn strong now.

    But it doesn't help to fight the Africans in Ethiopia.

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    But why the Devastating fire events keep devastating Italy all the time ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PebbleWALL View Post
    But why the Devastating fire events keep devastating Italy all the time ?

    Those are random events. They devastate all nations without exception. It's not something special just for Italy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asalto View Post
    Btw, France won't be allied with UK anymore?
    In Vanilla, for some reason, UK and France are some kind of natural friends and allies from the very beginning. But in real history that situation was different. UK and France formed and alliance only on April 6th, 1939, when they signed the Mutual Assistance Pact with Poland.

    Moreover I am inclined to think that before April 1939 UK and France sometimes were rivals in some respects, but no way allies.

    In January 1936 France was allied only with Belgium

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    India is pretty useless for the Commonwealth. She builds some infantry, but no transports and never sends exp forces to UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleJ View Post
    India is pretty useless for the Commonwealth. She builds some infantry, but no transports and never sends exp forces to UK.
    Those Indian divisions are for defending their homeland. You are not supposed to move them to Europe and invade Germany with them. That would have been too gamey.

    It is also assumed that the Indian Army is reserved to fight Japanese in the Far East. In any case they are not for the European Theater
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    In Vanilla, for some reason, UK and France are some kind of natural friends and allies from the very beginning. But in real history that situation was different. UK and France formed and alliance only on April 6th, 1939, when they signed the Mutual Assistance Pact with Poland.

    Moreover I am inclined to think that before April 1939 UK and France sometimes were rivals in some respects, but no way allies.

    In January 1936 France was allied only with Belgium

    you must get the change to say no as UK, maybe you dont want help poland and you want that france is going to be crushed. so make a choice to say no in the event.


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    i was looking back and why does austria-hungary not have claims on poland, romania and yugoslavia? it should claim the whole old empire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchemperor View Post
    you must get the change to say no as UK, maybe you dont want help poland and you want that france is going to be crushed. so make a choice to say no in the event.
    I can include that into the next update.

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    i was looking back and why does austria-hungary not have claims on poland, romania and yugoslavia? it should claim the whole old empire.
    I don't think Austria-Hungary should have those claims from day one, but I am going to make some special events giving her such claims on the adjacent countries soon after the restoration. Something like Hitler's Protection of Germans Abroad Speech event.

    Not sure about claims on the Polish territory though. Poland is a strong regional power. Would it make sense for Austria - Hungary to antagonize Poland by claiming something ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    I can include that into the next update.



    I don't think Austria-Hungary should have those claims from day one, but I am going to make some special events giving her such claims on the adjacent countries soon after the restoration. Something like Hitler's Protection of Germans Abroad Speech event.

    Not sure about claims on the Polish territory though. Poland is a strong regional power. Would it make sense for Austria - Hungary to antagonize Poland by claiming something ?
    yes, it has the region of galicia (Lemberg, Krakau german named cities) and i am sure they would make a war to get it. maybe as last claims, when they already have done yugoslavia, czechslovakia and romania.


    and a option to choose and say no to poland as uk will be great.
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    Yeah, events are cool, but events with choices are much better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovg View Post
    Yeah, events are cool, but events with choices are much better
    I have to agree iwth that!
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    It's easy to amend those events, but apart from those technicalities, I believe Austria-Hungary should not claim all territories within the borders of 1913. The situation is too different.

    First of all that restoration of Austria-Hungary requires Italy's consent and support. How can she claim the Italian province of Trento after that ?

    Also I think it doesn't make sense to spoil relations with Poland. Austria -Hungary owned those territories when Poland did not exist. But in 1936 Poland does exist and it is a pretty strong European power.

    Besides that, Lemberg has never been a German or Austrian city. It was and still is Ukrainian. Much the same with Krakau. It's Polish.

    As for claims on Yugoslavia, Romania and Czechoslovakia, yes, it seems to be likely that Austria-Hungary would claim that.

    Any way thank you all for your feedback
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