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I can't believe I'm following this for almost a year now. Which means it is more regular to me than following news!

This also marks the longest I've followed an active AAR. This isn't the longest running AAR by far, but as most AARs I've started reading in the middle or near the end, I'm glad to have started and gotten to this point with Myth and company. :D Thanks for writing such an engrossing story!
 
Juan_de_Marco: That's quite impressive, actually. :p

Valentinan: Some interesting thoughts there definitely! :p

stef737: No worries, we're all here to learn! ;)

Jorath13: And it's not through yet! :p

So basically, on hiatus until next week. :p
 
My 2c.
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For far-flung operations in regions of low infrastructure, the best units are militia...
Unless you actually want to conduct offensive operations, when INF are (IIRC) about 4 or 5 times as effective (2 or 3 times as effective per supply point needed).

...commando officers...
Only help if you're already out of supply.

Assign them directly to Theatre HQ to bypass the chain of command.
What? And miss out on cutting their supply needs by significant amounts by having them in an Army Group?

Also, consider tactical bombers in lieu of artillery.
If you're struggling for supply, you shouldn't really be using either to any great extent. And if you use INF, you mostly don't need to.




Regards,

Valentinian

"Pound them Harry, pound them!"[/QUOTE]
 
womble: That reminds me of Callwell a fair bit. ;)

Okay, so today I'm off to Glasgow, whoo! You guys probably won't hear from me until I'm back in London. :p
 
Myth, sometimes I wonder if you really have a home. You seem to be responsible for quite a lot of Co2 emissions with all your flying about. :p
 
This is a great AAR, I've read it over several days... it inspired me to try out Italy after learning the new mechanics (played HoI2) with Turkey.

Just a quick question about strategy, how do you keep up your production when you end Ethiopia? The consumer goods shoot up drastically, I found myself looking to go to war... simply for war :cool:

So, Republican spain won the civil war which is a bad thing for the Axis since they are rather Allies prone (didn't help that I intervened). So I increased their threat and decreased my neutrality a lot.

I savescummed to learn about the mechanics of amphibious invasions. So now I'm sitting off Spains coast with the ability to dec them but there isn't much reason to do so until Germany takes over France. So, can I dec Spain, destroy it's fleet with mine and take the other side of the straight to prevent British traffic in war?

As for technology, I'm focusing on Naval Carriers and Aviation, finished some basic infantry upgrades, and am focusing on fast light armor and mechanized infantry. I aim to build one mechanized army of the following organization:

3rd Armee d'Italia
- 1st Corpe d'3rd Armee
- 3x binary divisions of Medium Armor
- 2nd Corpe d'3rd Armee
- 3x binary divisions of fast Light Armor & Tank Destroyers
- 3rd Corpe d'3rd Armee
- 3x binary divisions of Mechanized or Motorized Infantry whichever is faster.

1st Corps will be for breaking through a point in the enemy (probably soviet, as Greece/Turkey are too mountainous).
2nd Corps will be for for exploiting through the gap, hence the speed. The TD/LA is for a combined arms and a bit of oomph.
3rd corps will be for holding the gap open.

But I'll build that army in a year or so from now (37) as I assume war will break out in 39 and then we'll dec USSR in 40. In the meantime I am actually producing 2 escorts and 2 serial/2 parallel fleet carriers. As for support ships I'm not entirely sure, but I'll build either light/heavy cruisers whichever is faster and some more destroyers and convoy transports, as I currently have enough transports to convoy an army at a time.

Speaking of armies, is there an easier way to manage them? Because as I was practicing on Spain I found the AI to be a bit meh, not forming the defensive perimeter I told it to etc. When I tried to manage the fight manually I felt overwhelmed keeping the 2 armies, 6 corps, 12 divisions involved organized.

So, tl;dr:
1. Is it worth it to build a mechanized army?
2. Can I close Gibraltar by taking it's OPPOSITE coast?
3. How do you keep your armies organized in battle, I quickly found myself confused just managing two in a defensive practice (savescummed) fight in Spain; god help me when the Soviets come.
 
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This is a great AAR,...

1. Is it worth it to build a mechanized army?
2. Can I close Gibraltar by taking it's OPPOSITE coast?
3. How do you keep your armies organized in battle, I quickly found myself confused just managing two in a defensive practice (savescummed) fight in Spain; god help me when the Soviets come.

1. No - Myth has given a number of good examples and reasons why Italy would have a hard time creating/upgrading/tech researching a mechanized army. Plus next patch of Semper Fi is going to increase fuel consumption of Mech/Armor. A few, yes - an army, no.

2. I think you need both sides of the straight to block a waterway, but many players report Gibralter is not blocked to AI navies. Maybe that has changed recently.

3. Swap divisions between corps - trade fartherest to nearest. Or once an objective has been taken, sort out the mixed up units and move them toward their HQs. The new OOB tool will help that alot - was abit of a hit and miss deal before.

Now back to our (ir)regularly scheduled divAARsion...
 
Baltasar: Hey to be fair I didn't fly this time, I took the train. I'm a bit sick of flying. :p

Jemisi: Thanks, I did! :D

Zanziabar: Thanks! :D

Remagen: I didn't have the Abyssinia problem because the AI control decided to be utterly incompetent and dragged war out for a long time. Otherwise, DanSez seems to have answered your questions, and I'm lazy. ;)

DanSez: Yes, we should now be back soon. :p

So I'm back from the conference! For those interested, here is an outdated pdf of the conference program (but the only one I can find online in ten seconds). I won't tell you which one was me. :p

In other news, I'll try (operating word: try :p) to have an update for tonight!
 
Fascinating programme indeed. Which sessions did you enjoy most?

So what does Il Duce have in store for us next? Assuming you are able to complete the reduction of the Soviet forces within the Balkan pocket, do you think the Italians will use their sea borne mobility to take the fight back into Soviet territory? Crimea perhaps? Or the Caucasus to cut off those Soviet forces in Anatolia? Or do you think a methodical advance in the centre (in support of the Germans) might be better?

Thinking about it, I suppose you'll need some time to reinforce and refit your formations!

Looking forward to the next update!
 
foriavik: To be fair, I don't do history either. But then, I do strategic studies. :D

Palmyrene: Hard to say what I enjoyed the most. Also am in the middle of cooking a curry so I don't have time. As for my future plans, those are for the future! ;)

Update coming up!
 
The Year of the Masters of War
Part 11: The Strength of Italian Arms II, August 29 – September 24, 1944

For the practicing strategist, strategic effect is at the end of the day a finicky mistress. Much like her cousin Fortuna with whom she frequently associates herself, strategic effect can be highly unpredictable and comes in a variety of effective guises that always leave the practitioner of strategy wondering whether it is truly strategic effect he is cavorting with, or simply an illusion of circumstance and the hopes and biases of one’s own mind. One can, after all, win oneself to death in certain situations if not careful. The wily foe may appear to be effected by one’s own strategy, but may be laying an ambuscade of such enormous proportions that it is nigh un-discernable to those who know not of it. War is, of course, a dialectic of wills using force to settle their dispute, and this means that the element of reciprocality will never be absent. Such is the context in which the strategist must woo strategic effect. The Italians seemed to have achieved strategic effect this time around, however. Yet in many ways strategic effect cannot be separated from the strategist’s objectives.

Mussolini had conceived of this gamble of his as a way to reduce the Soviet presence in the Balkans, ideally to a point closer to ‘zero’ than even merely ‘negligible.’ Essentially, the goal was to eradicate the entire Soviet Balkan theater if possible. Though in the beginning the odds seemed long and fairly stacked against the Italians, by late August it had become not simply apparent but certain that the Italians would crush the very Soviet presence in the Balkans that they had set out to destroy, unless a miracle of some variety happened to occur in the Soviets’ favor that would save them. Such a miracle was not forthcoming, however. Indeed by September 4th, despite a number of more or less bloody clashes between advancing Italian formations and defending or withdrawing Soviet forces, a number of Soviet divisions were finally trapped in a pocket comprising most of central-western Thrace. While there were weak breakout attempts directed southward, these posed no problem to the Italians. Instead, they began pushing even harder toward the center of Soviet resistance, Sofia.

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Soviet forces in Thrace, trapped once and for all.

Soviet forces did not give up, however, but instead fought on for as long as they could, determined to inflict as many casualties as possible and indeed try to wreck the ability of the Italian armies to achieve such blistering offensives in the future. However, the casualty exchanges were even more unbalanced than ever before and on many occasions the Soviets suffered hundreds of deaths merely to inflict a handful of Italian casualties. The Soviets’ own ability to wage battle, much less war, had been severely damaged in the offensive of recent months, resulting in a sort of half-helplessness that did not permit anywhere near peak combat performance, even though the defensive was, abstractly, the stronger form of warfare. Thus, the great pocket in Thrace was reduced in only four days to containing merely the city of Sofia itself. The Italians had also begun the final assault on the city, throwing two undamaged and high-spirited divisions into its streets, with another two in reserve. Their opposition consisted of two heavily battered infantry divisions, one of which was in reserve and a number of variably damaged headquarters units. The Soviets were scraping the bottom of their manpower barrel.

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The final assault on Sofia and the surrounding area, note all the completely superfluous German divisions. There are still others not shown.

Sofia fell on the 11th of September, and with it the entire Soviet presence north of Greece. The next step in the operation was obvious, and the Italians took it. On that very same day, five Italian divisions that had moved southward into western Thessaly launched their advance toward Athens. Their goal would be to separate the last remaining major body of Soviet troops from the Athenian port of Piraeus and make way for the final destruction of the Soviet Balkan theater. Athens was defended by but a single division, and north of Athens the remaining Soviet forces were practically already sitting with their collective heads in a great noose, though they were perceptive enough to understand this and were trying to escape southward, albeit to little avail.

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The final major stage of the operation at time of launch, the reconquest of Greece, ironically given how many times the Italians landed at Athens, from the north.

And so ended Mussolini’s great Balkan offensive. Originally a gamble, Italian operational skill turned it into a great victory. By the 24th of September only a single Soviet division remained in the area—a lone straggler holed up on Euboea destined to be crushed soon. During this last near month of operations the Italians had suffered three thousand three hundred and sixty casualties, the Soviets six thousand nine hundred. This is a testament to how swiftly the fighting abilities of the Soviet forces in the Balkans collapsed. In total, Italian and German casualties were perhaps as high as forty-five thousand from late June to late September. At the same time, however, the Soviets lost about seventy-six thousand two hundred men as killed in action. This was not, however, the full extent of the Soviet loss. The Soviets did not, as in the preceding year, lose simply whole divisions and corps. This year, the Soviets lost whole armies over the course of the operation, particularly in the past month and a half. Italian intelligence estimated that the Soviet Balkan theater comprised about half a million men before the offensive. By the end of September, this entire theater had been destroyed to a man. The Soviets had lost approximately three hundred brigades. The Soviet army was reduced to a point at which not strong enough, for a while at least, to be able to hold all fronts. Stalin and STAVKA would have to make sacrifices, would have to make hard decisions. Would they be able to do it?
 
Italian divisions have destroyed as many enemy formations as there are Italian formations. :p Again. :cool:
The Soviets cannot have more than 500 brigades left. If you have 300 and German close to 1000, where is the Endsieg? :confused:
The entire male population of SU is working in Italian factories, how can the war continue? :rofl:
 
Impressive

Third time is the charm aye? ;)

Very nicely done, though you give argument that if you can survive, persist long enough and learn well enough the lessons of previous efforts that victory can be yours.

I love how each attempt or precursor to your current victory in the Balkans, over the last 2-3 years of gameplay, literally were stepping stones in both the resources needed and tactics refining to make it not only possible but a foregone conclusion!

I wonder though, unless you extend gameplay, will you have enough time to do more against the soviets of such magnitude as your Balkans campaign? However there is now a HUGE gaping whole in the Soviet boarder, so it's possible that your Balkans campaign has signaled the fall of their empire! If they pull troops from their German boarder, it seems to me that should be enough for even the reluctant German AI to finally take a more proactive role in WW2. heh

Anyway, well done and thoroughly enjoying this recounting of your exploits!

Shadow
 
Perhaps the next campaign can actually be an invasion of the USSR-maybe the Germans will follow.:)

This has been a great roller coaster ride-well done.