Speaking of the German front... it's 1943, and Germany and the USSR have been duking it out for over two years now. Have they been staring at each other across the Dniepr or something? I'd have expected something big from up that direction by now.Originally Posted by Myth
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They have been having their own version of sitzkreig
Yes.. It is the Phony War..all cardboard tanks and Maskirovka....
Enewald: I can afford to continue the offensive until I can't move forward any more. My air force isn't doing too much, it's too much of a bother to use it, and the Soviet air force is too frightened of me to do anything either. Last I saw it was before all this started. And the Soviets are beginning to really outnumber me a bit here I think.
FrodoB: Well I'd like to get as far as I can, and also destroy as many Soviet divisions as I can. But even then I don't think I'd want to advance further than the Prut. Stop at defensible places and all that, and then consolidate. Ideally. And I think the infantry you see are the latest. Maybe. I don't remember.
BlitzMartinDK: Sailing into the fray, yes, without any org!
FrodoB: Nah those are the three or four tac bombers I started with.
Ciryandor: Oops again! In my defense I don't reread what write!
Nikolai II: Thank you!
Germanicus23: I'm not sure if it'd really take away manpower from the front--not my front as least, seeing as it's an active front.
dublish: They haven't even reached the rivers! Well, they hold one bank of the Daugava for a bit, but otherwise they're just chilling in east Poland.
Jemisi: I checked, and they're on the defensive!
BlitzMartinDK: Rather, all real tanks, real soldiers and real sitting around in the same hole for two years being bored, but not shelled! It's like the Western Front of WW1 without the casualties.
Btw, do you have any spies working against the soviets?
Like army espionage, production hindering, disrupting national unity?
Or is every Italian male sent into the meat-grinder?
Don't they get org. back while they are sitting in the homeland? -Or do they loose it all upon being landed in a port?[b]
BlitzMartinDK: Sailing into the fray, yes, without any org!
BlitzMartinDK: Rather, all real tanks, real soldiers and real sitting around in the same hole for two years being bored, but not shelled! It's like the Western Front of WW1 without the casualties.
I was referring to the few monts at the start of the war (Real Life-), were nothing happened on the west front! -The french staying in the Maginot line, and the germans having "only cardboard tanks"...
They slowly gain organisation, when they're deployed, they have next to no organisation. And it takes a while to reach 100%. Since each update myth does is, like 2+ days, it may be a while till they see action.Don't they get org. back while they are sitting in the homeland? -Or do they loose it all upon being landed in a port?
I was referring to the few monts at the start of the war (Real Life-), were nothing happened on the west front! -The french staying in the Maginot line, and the germans having "only cardboard tanks"...
It's quickest in high infra provinces, so often best to leave them at home until they're ready, if you're fighting in wildernesses or over shell-churned provinces.
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Enewald: Espionage is totally not worth the effort.
BlitzMartinDK: Yeah I know.
IFD123: Hey every update I do is 2+ weeks not days. But yeah it'll be a while anyway.
womble: Indeed.
Update tonight hopefully! Though I'll be helping my dad install some double doors here so we'll see. Regardless, next update after presumed tonight will be Thursday, since I'll finally be flying back to England on Tuesday (and arriving Wednesday).
I guess you haven't heard what John Cleese said: How do you get God to laugh? Tell him your plans.
Good luck anyway
Espionage does seem very expensive the more I play this game.
Well, if you play Ger 36, focus heavily on espionage, you might get USA into axis by 38. And that is worth it.
later it is not so useful, expect if you want to disrupt enemy unity. Which is always good when fighting Soviets so you don't have to conquer all the way to Vladivostok.
Well, You DO have to invest in counter-espionage at home, especially if you are playing a country with a high threat... Everybody and their aunts will try to spy on you
About the German Situation : Have you tried to send a small force -an "expeditionary force" - to germany, and START an offence? -maybe the germans would support your attack? -Maybe that could change the stance of the german eastern command? -because I'll bet, that is what is wrong...
Starfury: No, I've never heard that. I like it.
Jemisi: Especially for non-majors.
Enewald: Yeah, disrupting their national unity would be good at some later point, but not when I'm fighting over Italian territory.
BlitzMartinDK: Yeah I loaded up as Germany and they're all sat there on defensive like the refuse buckets they are. I think what I need is an even bigger distraction!
So obviously there was no update yesterday. I forgot that my grandmother was dropping by, as yesterday would've been her last chance to see me until maybe this autumn (as it looks like I'll be spending my summer in London). I spent eight hours outside yesterday, including time at the dump, playing basketball, talking with my grandmother and putting that damn door in. But, update tonight I think!
Priorities, Please!!!So obviously there was no update yesterday. I forgot that my grandmother was dropping by, as yesterday would've been her last chance to see me until maybe this autumn (as it looks like I'll be spending my summer in London). I spent eight hours outside yesterday, including time at the dump, playing basketball, talking with my grandmother and putting that damn door in. But, update tonight I think!
The only good thing about your current lack of output [
Actually..I don't know what would change it?? -the Posture?
Well, if he can't do an update, the dump is a good place for him.
FrodoB: Much like war, the relationship between AAR writing and AAR reading is not linear.
BlitzMartinDK: Dunno.
Forster: Don't make me go over there and smack you!
Update coming up!
The Year of Returned Hope
Part 9: The Indirect Approach VIII, June 28 – August 2, 1943
In the paradoxical logic of war, everything eventually becomes its opposite, albeit at the risk of simplifying relationships between phenomena. Among these relationships is that between offense and defense. The former is the weaker but with the positive objective, the latter is the stronger but negative form. Clausewitz was keen to stress that they were not opposites: rather, they were complimentary. Offense almost always required defense at some level, and defense was not passively waiting for the attack but rather a shield made out of well-placed blows. The paradoxical logic of war distorts this relationship into that of simple and unambiguous opposites, all to make the point that Clausewitz had also made: that eventually the attacker reaches the ends of his means and no longer has the strength to push forward, for whatever reason.
High summer began with an Italian attempt to pinch off a Soviet salient in the north of the front. It was not an ambitious operation, and as planned would only result in the encirclement of two divisions, but it would significantly shorten the front in the north. It failed as an encirclement in the end, but the Soviets were pushed out the salient in the end, and the front shortened nevertheless. There was another attempt at encircling Soviet forces in the south-center of the front, at Vlasotince, which ended successfully with a Soviet division destroyed. However, the Soviets on the whole were wising up to Italian tactics and able to forestall more significant Italian successes. Italian arms continued to accrue victories, but at an ever greater cost. In the first ten days of July, Italy won yet another string of victories across the front: at Jimbolia, Arad, Kastoria, Mesolongi, Timisoara, Vlasotince, Beius and Vlore. Casualties in aggregate amounted to over six thousand one hundred Italian and over eight thousand seven hundred Soviet soldiers. Trying to push onward was becoming ever bloodier for the Italians.
The attempt to pinch off the salient, in its early stages.
Germany meanwhile had been pushing into Finland, and so by the 10th of July was in a state of utter confusion as it attempted to deal with the previously unknown strategic state of actually invading a country, something it hadn’t done for over two years. It indeed opened up a second front with the Soviet Union on the Kola Peninsula and on Finland’s eastern border, which some optimistic Italian strategists hoped would mean a diffusion of Soviet strength and possibly even a couple fights between German and Soviet soldiers. It was this, as much as anything else, that threw the German high command into its panic. Thus the deep rear areas of East Prussia and western Latvia were awash with German divisions moving to and fro to no reasonable purpose whatsoever. This Teutonic confusion, and Italian persistence in the Balkans, led to the Soviets siphoning off yet more formations to deal with the Italian menace.
Teutonic confusion, probably over a missing kitten in East Prussia. Everybody can guess where the Soviet divisions are going.
Back in the Balkans, the situation was evolving, albeit slowly and unsurely. In the far north, Bastico accomplished yet another encirclement, trapping three Soviet divisions against the Hungarian border and crushing them. Of these three formations, two were armored divisions, the loss of which must have galled the Soviet commanders. The Italians won victories at Bosilgrad, Jasa Tomic, Curtici, Kresna, Vrsac, Yakoruda, Faget, and Kostinbrod. A loss was registered at Arad. Casualties totaled nearly five thousand eight hundred Italians and nearly ten thousand two hundred Soviets for the remainder of July and into the first two days of August. In addition, Greece had been cleaned up of Soviet divisions, which together with other successful Italian encirclements resulted in another ten or eleven Soviet divisions fully destroyed. Losses remained in favor of the Italians, but the overall strategic situation was not. The Soviets were pressing hard against Italian positions in and around both Kostinbrod and Netanya. The Soviets also accomplished a penetration of the Italian line and were exploiting it, there was even danger of the Italians losing a division. The Italians were striving to close it and turn it into another Italian victory, but the jury remained out.
The situation on August 2.
Regardless whether one followed Clausewitz closely, or preferred the paradoxical logic of war, time seemed to be running out for the Italians. The Soviets had formed a coherent front after five straight months of continuous defeat and seemed to be going onto the offensive. It remained to be seen whether the Italians could still muster the strength to close off Soviet salients, if not go full out onto the offensive. What was obvious, however, was that geography was now conspiring against the Italians. Their four armies were stretched across a terrible distance from the Hungarian border to the Aegean Sea, a set up which of course favored the more numerous Soviet formations. Worse yet, additional Soviet divisions were still streaming south from the German front.
Looks like a bulge in the center of your line opening up. Will you be able to pinch it off? Has your CAGS have been involved recently with the ground offensive?.
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