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    Quote Originally Posted by TeutonburgerW View Post
    I registred in BOP world today and awaiting confirmation mail and perhaps we could get a sub-forum called "unit, models and tech trees" where we can have a seperate discussion for this topic since this doesn't fit this kind of thread?
    Good. I made a tech tree prototype btw check it out and comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amallric View Post
    You have 1.3beta2 patch Supaplex?

    no 1.3
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    Install the latest patch.

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    Shouldn't matter.

    The newest patch (1.3.2) doesn't affect those file who Gukan sent us (scenario, map & db/province.csv)

    I tested it with:

    Doomsday 1.3
    Arma 1.2
    Arma 1.3.2


    All worked fine.

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    Gukan told me that there could be errors with the spy costs due to the beta patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amallric View Post
    Gukan told me that there could be errors with the spy costs due to the beta patch.
    Well, the files I recived (this evening) didn't contain any AI reference (or other reference to spies in the files that have anything to do with the spysystem) other than the:

    Code:
    SpyInfo                = { country = "CHI" NumberOfSpies = 3 }
    etc. in the .inc-files, so if something, there would be a scenario error when loading the scenario, which it isn't, so this shouldn't either be the problem...

    Have anyone else encounterd a crash with the map, except for Supaplex?

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    can somebody give me old new screen for armagedon, I change to yugoslav wars, maybe that is problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    Voting for Macedonia or Fyrom! Look on first post!
    I vote FYROM
    Macedonia is a region in Balkans not a country.

    EDIT: Just realised that Hax's post was on the 1st page, weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asteris_ View Post
    I vote FYROM
    Macedonia is a region in Balkans not a country.

    EDIT: Just realised that Hax's post was on the 1st page, weird.
    lol its done long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supaplex View Post
    I aded yug load sreen but this is noth reason why game crash.
    I'm sorry to herad that Supa. But you were able to start the game and somehow the game crashes when you try to launch the scenario? Or when you are in-game? I doubt the game can be played, i didn't let the game advance as connections, naval distances and other thinks must still be done. Maybe this is the problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amallric View Post
    Gukan told me that there could be errors with the spy costs due to the beta patch.
    Quote Originally Posted by TeutonburgerW View Post
    Well, the files I recived (this evening) didn't contain any AI reference (or other reference to spies in the files that have anything to do with the spysystem) other than the:

    Code:
    SpyInfo                = { country = "CHI" NumberOfSpies = 3 }
    etc. in the .inc-files, so if something, there would be a scenario error when loading the scenario, which it isn't, so this shouldn't either be the problem...

    Have anyone else encounterd a crash with the map, except for Supaplex?
    Yes that's the line i suspect can make the loading scenario crash. But was only a suspect. I didn't test the game with any version diferent that the arma beta patch

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    Adapten OOBs per 25th of June, 1991

    SLOVENIA

    Note: (xxx) after unit means commanded by xxx.
    Note2: After the "|" is the unit I think it should be represented by.
    Note3: "MD" stands for "military disctrict"

    Slovenia
    General HQ in Ljulbana (Col. Janez Slapar) | 1 HQ

    - 1. Special defence Bde. | ???
    - 9. AA Bde. | Art

    2. Dolensjka (Lower Carniola, HQ in Novo Mesto and commanded by Col. Albin Gutman)

    - 25 TO brigade | Gar
    - 4 detachments | ???

    Divided on four military sub-districts - MSD: 21, 23 , 25, 27

    3. Gorenjska (Upper Carniola, HQ in Kranj and commanded by Col. Peter Zupan)

    - 21, 22, 31, 32, 34 TO Bde. | Gar
    - 4 detachments | Reduced Gar

    Divided on three military sub-districts - MSD: 31, 33 & 35

    4. Juznoprimorska MD (South coast, HQ in Postojna and commanded by Lt. Col. Vojko Stenberger

    - 5 detachments | Reduced Gar

    Divided on four military sub-districts - MSD: 41, 43, 45 & 47

    5. Ljulbana MD (commanded by Lt. Col. Janez Lesjak)

    - 5 detachmanents | Reduced Gar
    - 1 Art Bty. | Art-battalion

    Divided on four military sub-districts - MSD: 51, 53, 55 & 57

    6. Severnoprimorska MD (North coast, HQ in Nova Gorica and commanded by Col. Bogdan Beltram)

    - 1 detachment | Reduced Gar
    - 6 tank companys | ???

    Divided on two military sub-districts - MSD: 61 & 63

    7. Vzhodnostajerska (East Styria, HQ in Maribor and commanded by Col. Vladimir Milosevic)

    - 72 TO Bde. | Gar
    - 27 Art Bty. | Art-battalions
    - 5 tank companys | ???

    Divided on fivemilitary sub-districts - MSD: 71, 73, 75, 77 & 79

    8. Zahodnostajerska (West Styria, HQ in Ceije and commanded by Lt. Col. Viktor Kranjc)

    - 8 detachments |
    - 32 Art. Bty. | Art-battalions

    Divided on fivemilitary sub-districts - MSD: 81, 83, 85, 87 & 89
    Plus various small forces on company level and platoon level that I haven't found out what they stand for or how to portrait them in-game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supaplex View Post
    greath job Gukan I love you. Hax you know Mod progres?
    HOLY SHIT SO MANY PROVINCES!
    Yugoslavia Wars mod - Join the fight that ravages ex-Yugoslavia! Relive Europe's last and most taboo war! Repeat history or change it forever.

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    Adapted OOBs per 25th of June, 1991

    Croatia

    Croatia was divided into six OZ (Operational zones) in june, 1991, and led from the HQ in Zagreb.

    1. OZ "Osijek"
    2. OZ "Bjelovar"
    3. OZ "Zagreb"
    4. OZ "Karlovac"
    5. OZ "Rijeka"
    6. OZ "Split"

    In june, there were four conventional brigades that were manned by proffesional solidiers:

    1. ZNG "Tigrovi" | Regular INF
    2. ZNG "Grom" | Regular INF
    3. ZNG "Kune" | Regular INF
    4. ZNG | Regular INF

    And by june, the croatian army (HV) absorbed the local defence units composed by reserves, conscripts and volontueers and that became eleven brigades:

    100, 101, 105-110 & 112-115. | Militia or garrisons

    There were also numerous other smaller units, like:

    - Infantry battalions
    - AA battalions
    - Art battalions
    - MP battalions

    But the only sources I can find on those, are from december 1991, so we'll have to wait a bit for that before I find sources.

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    What if we make in game Brigades>Regiments/Company/Support Group
    Divisions>Brigades
    Corp>Divisions
    ?

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    How will you simulate paramilitary group like White Wolves and Arkan Tigers ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRHINDO View Post
    What if we make in game Brigades>Regiments/Company/Support Group
    Divisions>Brigades
    Corp>Divisions
    ?
    Convince Amallric because that's how I like it to be.

    How will you simulate paramilitary group like White Wolves and Arkan Tigers ?
    I proposed to having to "SOF" units: one regular (for states like the croatian special forces brigade) and one irregular (for paramilitary) elite units.

    Another way to handle it, could be to have an elite "brigade" to an plain militia unit that adds certain values.

    Or making special units, like in WiF.

    Lots of possibilites, but we've gotta take this design decisions soon, me think.

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    Convince Amallric because that's how I like it to be.
    Well I agree with the divisions->brigades thing, it makes sense since most of the units were actually called brigades. However you must know that those "brigades" were smaller, regiment-sized formations actually. Also I strongly believe that if we go the brigades => regiments route, we will lose much diversity as well as accuracy, because at this level of detail units like artillery etc can and must be represented as independent units. I also kind of like the "brigades as equipment" idea. Maybe if there was an unlimited number of brigades for every unit, then this proposition would be fine. But a single brigade per infantry division is just not enough to represent the diversity of support units, as well as their aptitude to act independently.

    So to sum up:
    divisions => brigades/regiments: ok
    brigades => regiments: no, rather brigades => equipement
    corps => divisions: ok

    What do you think of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gukan View Post
    I'm sorry to herad that Supa. But you were able to start the game and somehow the game crashes when you try to launch the scenario? Or when you are in-game? I doubt the game can be played, i didn't let the game advance as connections, naval distances and other thinks must still be done. Maybe this is the problem?



    Yes that's the line i suspect can make the loading scenario crash. But was only a suspect. I didn't test the game with any version diferent that the arma beta patch
    Yes it crash when loading scenario. So I must instal beta patch?
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    But you managed to load the game at least once right? Maybe you deleted some important files by mistake when you put the loadscreen? Try deleting the folder and reinstall the whole thing.

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    yes first time I suckside.But I just put yug wars sreen insted armagedon.it cant be problem just that little thing.Maybe I must instal latest patch?
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