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  1. #2001
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    I hope so

    What are you working on and what's missing on the music?
    What countrys?
    Not doing anything really

    Serbia still missing most of the pack. Macedonia and Slovenia fully missing.
    What about Montenegro?

    (HAX the bosnian antheme you sent me has crappy quality need another one)



    Found possible OOB source, for those tasked to do it:
    http://www.vojska.net/eng/armed-forces/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesina2 View Post
    OOB?
    Locations of army right?
    Order of Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Gukan View Post
    As Supa told me he want's to help, i send him some work to do, but i'm still waiting his response. I'm now testing what we have
    Ok

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaximillian View Post
    I hope to finish with your task today or tomorrow.
    Good!

    Quote Originally Posted by JRHINDO View Post
    Not doing anything really

    Serbia still missing most of the pack. Macedonia and Slovenia fully missing.
    What about Montenegro?

    (HAX the bosnian antheme you sent me has crappy quality need another one)


    Found possible OOB source, for those tasked to do it:
    http://www.vojska.net/eng/armed-forces/
    Slovenian pack is soon coming, no montengro
    I will tommorow find a better one anthem.

    That site is already known, but thanks for looking!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amallric View Post
    a large pic here...[/IMG]
    Shouldn't we use this roundel for Macedonia?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonian_Air_Force

    Quote Originally Posted by Hax
    Good!
    Link to archive with pics sent to you per PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaximillian View Post
    Shouldn't we use this roundel for Macedonia?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonian_Air_Force


    Link to archive with pics sent to you per PM

    Yes you have right we should use that you linked, I think that Amarllic posted is some kind flight group logo.

    Nice I will download them tomorrow because I can't download them now it says.

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  6. #2006
    Croation OOB from 93

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    Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces: President Franjo Tudman
    
    General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Croatia - Zagreb
    GS OS RH
    
    Chief of Staff:
    deputy Chief of Staff:
    Ministry of Defense (MORH) 	66th MP Coy
    'The Cobras' (Jakusevac)
    1st Battle Vehicles Battalion
    Independent Logistic Battalion
    Staff School (Zagreb)
    The Center of the Education and Training for Officers (Crnomerec)
    Officers Training Center (Varazdin)
    The Center of the Education and Training for Soldiers COOV (Muzil/Pula, Koprivnica, Pozega, Jastrebarsko, Sinj)
    The Special Training Center (Delnice)
    The Special Forces Training Center (Sinj)
    The Center of the Education and Training for Logistics COOVL (Zagreb)
    The Main Staff (GSHV) 	62nd Independent Battalion
    11th Artillery Division
    36th Independent Bridge-laying and Combat Engineer Bn 'Dabrovi' (Sisak)
    38th Bridge-laying Battalion 'Vidre'
    33rd Independent Combat Engineer Battalion
    The Communications Detachment of the Main Staff (Samobor)
    The Main Rear Base (Borongaj)
    1st Operational Zone (Osijek) 	3rd Guard Motorized Brigade 'Minks' - (Osijek)
    5th Guard Mechanized Brigade 'The Slavonia Falcons' - (Vinkovci)
    
    103rd Brigade
    106th Brigade/ZNG (Osijek)
    107th Brigade (Valpovo)
    109th Brigade (Vinkovci)
    122nd Brigade (Djakovo)
    124th Brigade (Ivankovo)
    131st Brigade (Zupanja)
    132nd Brigade (Nasice)
    135th Brigade (Osijek)
    160th Brigade/ZNG (Osijek)
    204th Brigade (Vukovar)
    Home Guard Units:
    
    (total 4 500 men):
    
    11th Regiment (Vinkovci) and at least four other regiment
    2nd Operational Zone (Bjelovar) 	104th Brigade (Varazdin)
    105th Brigade (Bjelovar)
    108th Brigade (Pozega)
    117th Brigade (Koprivnica)
    123rd Brigade (Pozega)
    125th Brigade
    127th Brigade (Virovitica)
    140th Brigade
    148th Brigade
    5th Independent Bn (Cakovec)
    3rd Operational Zone (Zagreb) 	1st Guard Brigade 'Tigers' - Zagreb
    2nd Guard Brigade 'Thunder' - Dugo Selo
    7th Motorized Guards Brigade 'The Pumas' (Varazdin)
    101st Brigade (Zabok)
    102nd Brigade 'Stuke' (Novi Zagreb)
    103rd Brigade (Zabok)
    137th Brigade (Duga Resa)
    140th Brigade/reserve (Jastrebarsko)
    145th Brigade (Dubrava)
    149th Brigade (Tresnjevka, Zagreb)
    151st Brigade Prikaati 'Andjeli Cuvari' (Samobor)
    153rd Brigade 'Sove' (Velika Gorica)
    158th Brigade (Velika Gorica)
    Anti-Terrorist Unit (Lucko)
    1st CBR Coy (Zagreb) (No info what the 'CBR' stands for !!)
    67th MP Coy (Borongaj)
    Home Guard units: 17th Regiment (Sunja)
    4th Operational Zone (Split) 	4th Motorized Guards Brigade 'Mac' (Split)
    112th Brigade (Zadar)
    113th Brigade (Sibenik)
    114th Brigade
    116th Brigade (Metkovic)
    126th Brigade/reserve (Sinj)
    134th Brigade (Biograd)
    141st Brigade (Sibenik)
    142nd Brigade (Unisic)
    163rd Brigade 'Lavovi' (Dubrovnik)
    Operational Zone (Karlovac) 	110th Brigade (Karlovac)
    120th Brigade (Sisak)
    121st Brigade (Nova Gradiska)
    129th Brigade
    137th Brigade
    161st Brigade (Komarevo)
    Operational Zone (Rijeka) 	6th Motorized Guards Brigade 'Licki Vukovi' (Gospic)
    111th Brigade/reserve (Rijeka)
    118th Brigade (Gospic)
    119th Brigade (Pula, Rovinj, Labin)
    128th Brigade (Rijeka)
    133rd Brigade (Otocac)
    138th Brigade/reserve (Delnice)
    154th Brigade (Pazin, Buzet, Buje)
    155th Brigade (Crikvenica)
    Source: http://www.vojska.net/eng/armed-forc...nization/1993/
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  7. #2007
    Bosnia & Herzegovina from 1994

    Code:
    Total strength: around 80,000 soldiers
    
    Supreme Commander: Alija Izetbegovic
    
    General Staff
    
    Chief of General Staff: General Rasim Delic
    Chief of Staff: Brigadier General Enver Hadzihasanovic
    Guard Brigade
    1st Corps
    
    HQ in Sarajevo
    	1st Motorized Brigade
    2nd Motorized Brigade
    3rd Motorized Brigade
    15th Motorized Brigade
    5th Infantry Brigade
    11th Infantry Brigade
    12th Infantry Brigade
    1st Mountain Brigade
    2nd Mountain Brigade
    9th Mountain Brigade
    
    Commander: Nezir Kazic
    10th Mountain Brigade
    HVO Brigade "Kralj Tvrtko"
    Artillery Brigade
    2nd Corps
    
    HQ in Tuzla
    	1st Operational Group - Brcko corridor 	107th Brigade
    108th Motorized Brigade
    108th HVO Brigade
    21st Brigade
    208th Brigade
    2nd Operational Group - Spreca 	109th Brigade
    111th Brigade
    117th Brigade
    3rd Operational Group - Olovo-Kladanj 	Olovo Brigade
    121st Brigade
    302nd Brigade
    4th Operational Group - 	205th Brigade
    206th Brigade
    207th Brigade
    5th Operational Group - Tuzla 	1st Brigade
    2nd Brigade
    3rd Brigade
    6th Operational Group - south Tuzla 	116th Brigade
    118th Brigade
    119th Brigade
    210th Brigade
    7th Operational Group - Maglaj 	110th HVO Brigade - Zepce
    111th HVO Brigade - Usora
    201st Brigade
    
    Commander: Esad Hidic
    202nd Brigade
    203rd Brigade
    204th Brigade
    207th Brigade
    3rd Corps
    
    HQ in Zenica
    
    Commander: Mehmed Alagic until 26th February 1994
    Chief of Staff: Dzemal Merdan
    	Operational Group Bosnian Krajina 	27th Brigade
    306th Brigade
    
    Commander: Esad Sipic
    Chief of Staff: Munir Karic
    312th Brigade
    Operational Group Zenica 	301st Brigade
    314th Brigade
    
    Commander: Dzevad Smajlagic
    Operational Group Bosnia - Zepce and Zavidovici area
    
    Commander: Refik Lendo
    Deputy commander: Ahmet Odzackic
    	303rd Brigade
    
    Commander: Suad Hasanovic
    318th Brigade
    
    Commander: Jasmin Saric
    319th Brigade
    Operational Group Lasva - Kakanj 	305th Brigade
    309th Brigade
    325th Brigade
    
    Commander: Sead Sinanbasic
    333rd Brigade
    
    Commander: Ekrem Halidzic
    Chief of Staff: Faik Lusija
    Military Police: Alija Begic
    Operational Group West - Gornji Vakuf-Bugojno
    
    Commander: Selmo Cikotic
    	307th Brigade
    
    Commander: Tahir Granic
    308th Brigade
    
    Commander: Bismili Zurapi
    317th Brigade
    
    Commander: Fahrudin Agic - Pajo
    4th Corps - Mostar and Herzegovina 	
    5th Corps
    
    HQ in Bihac
    
    Co: General Atif Dudakovic
    	501st Brigade
    
    Commander: Brigadier Senad Sarganovic
    502nd Brigade
    
    Commander: Colonel Hamdo Abdic
    503rd Brigade
    
    Commander: Brigadier Muhamed Delalic
    505th Brigade
    
    Commander: Brigadier Izet Nanic
    506th Brigade
    
    Commander: Major Mirsad Mirjkovic
    511th Brigade
    
    Commander: Major Mirsad Sedic
    517th Brigade
    
    Commander: Major Ibrahim Nadarevic
    101st HVO Brigade
    
    Commander: Lieutenant-Colonel Grgic
    6thCorps
    
    HQ in Konjic
    	7th Brigade
    
    Commander: Asim Koricic/Serif Patkovic
    44th Mountain Brigade
    
    Commander: Enes Kovacevic
    Neretva Brigade
    Operational Group East - Visoko
    Vares Brigade
    304th Brigade
    Nemilu Brigade
    Operational Group Eastern Bosnia
    
    Gorazde, Srebrenica, Zepa
    	
    7th Corps
    
    HQ in Travnik
    
    Commander: general Mehmed Alagic
    Chief of Staff: Fikret Cuskic
    	37th Muslim Brigade
    705th Mountain Brigade
    707th Brigade
    727th Brigade
    717. lahka brigada - Gornji Vakuf
    
    Commander: Fahrudin Agic / Jusuf Heljic / Enver Zejnilagic
    Source: http://www.vojska.net/eng/armed-forc...nization/1994/

  8. #2008
    Republic of Srpska from 1993

    Code:
    Total strength: 85-90,000 soldiers
    (list is missing territorial and paramilitary units)
    
    General Staff
    (moved to underground complex at Han Pijesak)
    
    Co: General Ratko Mladić
    Chief of Staff: General Manojlo Milovanović
    1st Krajina Corps
    (1. Krajiški Korpus)
    
    HQ in Banja Luka
    
    (ex-5th Corp of YPA)
    	41st Infantry Division
    7th Infantry Brigade
    145th Motorized Brigade
    149th Infantry Brigade
    417th Artillery Regiment
    5th Air Defence Regiment
    552nd Engineer Regiment
    2nd Krajina Corps
    (2. Krajiški Korpus)
    
    HQ in Drvar
    	4th Armored Brigade
    12th Motorized Brigade
    140th Motorized Brigade
    257th Motorized Brigade
    10th Air Defence Regiment
    3rd Corps
    
    HQ in Bijelina
     
    	2nd Motorized Brigade
    195th Motorized Brigade
    6th Infantry Brigade
    11th Infantry Brigade
    29th Infantry Brigade
    454th Artillery Regiment
    17th Air Defence Regiment
    17th Engineer Regiment
    East Bosnia Corps
    (Istočno-Bosanski Korpus)
    
    HQ in Han Pijesak
    	5th Motorized Brigade
    6th Motorized Brigade
    10th Motorized Brigade
    49th Motorized Brigade
    145th Motorized Brigade
    437th Motorized Brigade
    19th Mountain Brigade
    215th Mountain Brigade
    208th Artillery Regiment
    4th Air Defence Regiment
    Herzegovina Corps
    (Hercegovački Korpus)
    
    HQ in Bileća
    	473rd Motorized Brigade
    145th Motorized Brigade
    13th Motorized Brigade
    8th Motorized Brigade
    5th Mountain Brigade
    Source: http://www.vojska.net/eng/armed-forc...nization/1993/

  9. #2009
    FR Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) from 1993

    Code:
    Supreme Commander Army of Yugoslavia - Slobodan Milošević
    
    General Staff - Beograd
    
    Chief of General Staff: General
    deputy Chief of Staff:  Major General
    46th Security Motorized Brigade
    Guard Brigade
    Infantry School Center
    OMJ School Center 	Diver Training Center
    Artillery School Center
    PRVA ARMIJA
    
    Štab u Beograd - pokriva severni deo zemlje
    
    Baze: Bograd, Pančevo, Novi Sad, Sombor, Kragujevac, Sremska Mitrovica, Šabac, Valjevo
    	Mehanizovani korpus 	252. oklopna brigada (aktivna)
    1. Mehanizovana brigada (aktivna)
    2. Mehanizovana brigada (aktivna)
    3. Mehanizovana brigada (aktivna)
    1. Mešovita artiljerijska brigada
    35. Motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    Novosadski korpus 	36. Mehanizovana brigada (aktivna)
    453. Mehanizovana brigada (aktivna)
    12. Mehanizovana brigada (aktivna)
    18. Motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    127. Brigada lake pešadije (rezerva)
    16. Mešovita artiljerijska brigada (aktivna)
    16. Mešovita antitenkovska brigada (aktivna)
    Komanda odbrane grada Beograda 	151. Motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    505. Laka motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    153. Laka motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    22. Mešovita artiljerijska brigada (rezerva)
    585. Vazduhoplovni puk lake pešadije (rezerva)- četiri brigade
    22. Mešoviti antitenkovski puk (rezerva)
    150. Laki motorizovani puk (rezerva)
    Kragujevački korpus 	51. Mehanizovana brigada (aktivna)
    80. Motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    130. Motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    129. Laka motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    20. Brigada lake pešadije (rezerva)
    21. Brigada lake pešadije (rezerva)
    24. Mešoviti artiljerijski puk (rezerva)
    14. Laka motorizovana brigada
    24. Antitenkovski artiljerijski puk
    Drinska divizija (Valjevo) 	544. Motorizovana brigada (aktivna)
    208. Mešoviti artiljerijski puk (rezerva)
    Dunavska divizija (Zrenjanin) 	14. Laka motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    Korpus specijalnih snaga (Pančevo) 	Motorizovana brigada garde (Beograd)
    63. Vazdušno-desantna brigada (Niš)
    
    3,000 - 4,000 vojnika
    72. Specijalna brigada
    310. Raketni puk (SAM)
    149. Raketni puk (SAM)
    240. Raketni puk (SAM)
    Komanda jedinica specijalnih namena
    Banatska jedinica specijalnih namena (Zrenjanin)- rezerva
    Drinska jedinica specijalnih namena (Šabac)
    DRUGA ARMIJA
    
    Štab u Podgorici - pokriva južni deo zemlje
    
    Bases: Podgorica, Danilovgrad, Niksic, Uzice, Cacak, Novi Pazar, Raska, Kremna
    	Podgorički korpus
    
    ??
    	5. Motorizovana brigada (aktivna)
    57. Motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    179. Motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    3. Brigada lake pešadije (rezerva)
    326. Mešovita artiljerijska brigada
    4. Brigada lake pešadije (rezerva)
    2. Brigada lake brdske pešadije (rezerva)
    176. Mešovita antitenkovska brigada
    83. puk vazdušne odbrane
    Užički korpus
    
    ??
    	37. Motorizovana brigada (aktivna)
    168. Motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    27. Laka motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    134. Brigada lake pešadije (rezerva)
    6. Brigada lake pešadije (rezerva)
    7. Brigada lake pešadije (rezerva)
    202. Mešovita artiljerijska brigada (rezerva)
    60. Raketni puk (SAM)
    TREĆA ARMIJA (Niš)
    
    HQ in Niš  - covering central part of the country
    
    Co:
    
    Chief of Staff:
    
    Bases: Nis, Pristina, Krusevac, Leskovac, Vranje, Pirot, Prokuplje, Kursumlija
    	Niški korpus 	4. Motorizovana brigada (aktivna)
    2. Motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    211. Oklopna brigada (aktivna)
    805. Motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    203. Mešovita artiljerijska brigada (rezerva)
    21. Mešovita antitenkovska brigada (rezerva)
    50. Brigada lake pešadije (rezerva)
    Leskovački korpus 	89. Motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    135. Motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    13. Laka motorizovana brigada (rezerva)
    42. Mešovita antitenkovska brigada (rezerva)
    Prištinski korpus
    
    Priština
    
     
    	Corps Troops 	52 MP Bn - Priština
    83 Avn Regt - Priština
    52 Engr Regt - Kruševac
    52 Signal Regt - Priština
    15. Mehanizovana brigada (aktivna) - Priština
    243. Oklopna brigada (aktivna) - Uroševac
    549. Motorizovana brigada (aktivna) - Prizren, Đakovica
    125. Motorizovana brigada - Kosovska Mitrovica
    252nd Armored Brigade, deployed central Kosovo (Home Garrison: Kraljevo, Serbia)
    58. Laka mehanizovana brigada (rezerva)
    102. Mešovita antitenkovska brigada (rezerva)
    62. Mešovita artiljerijska brigada (aktivna) - Gnjilane
    53 Border Bn - Đakovica
    55 Border Bn - Prizren
    57 Border Bn - Đakovica
    52nd light anti-aircraft artillery-rocket regiment - Đakovica
    150. Mešovita artiljerijska brigada
    Timočke jedinice specijalne namene 	148. Motorizovana brigada (aktivna)
    9. Motorizovana brigada (aktivna)
    23. Brigada lake pešadije (rezerva)
    35. Brigada lake pešadije (rezerva)
    311. Raketni puk (SAM)
    7. Raketni puk (SAM)
    Special Purposes Corps - diversionary and reconnaissance actions and for antiguerilla and antiterrorist combat operations. 	63. Paratroop Brigade 	 
    Anti-terrorist battalion "Hawks"
    72. Special Brigade 	 
    Guard Motorized Brigade 	 
    Anti-terrorist group "Cobras"
    25th Military Police Battalion
    1st Armored brigade (T-72) - Banjica
    Source: http://www.vojska.net/eng/armed-forc...nization/1993/

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  11. #2011
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesina2 View Post
    OOB?
    Locations of army right?
    Quite hard to find from just 1991. Read this from wiki (especially the highlighted):

    The Yugoslav People's Army (JNA) was initially formed during World War II to carry out guerrilla warfare against Axis occupation. The success of the Partisan movement led to the JNA basing much of its operational strategy on guerrilla warfare. Due to the unique political stance of Yugoslavia in Europe, the strategic planners of the Army expected to face an attack by either NATO or Warsaw Pact forces. Expecting to be badly outmatched, the JNA decided to pursue a guerrilla strategy, which would prove disastrous in the upcoming war, since the JNA found itself in a position of an attacker without local civilian support - the very role they intended for invaders of Yugoslavia.

    Still, on paper, the JNA looked like a powerful force with 2,000 tanks and 300 jet aircraft (all either Soviet or locally produced). However, by 1991, majority of this equipment was over 30 years old: the main T-54/55 tank and the MiG-21 aircraft made up 60% and 40% of the tank force and air-force respectively.[citation needed] By contrast, more modern cheap anti-tank (like AT-5) and anti-aircraft (like SA-14) missiles were abundant, which were designed to destroy much more advanced weaponry. Furthermore, the JNA was a multinational force: the political infighting meant that desertion of men (especially educated cadre from Yugoslavia's more developed northern areas) would ruin the Army's effectiveness.[citation needed] With the retreat of the JNA forces in 1992, JNA units were reorganized as the Army of Serb Krajina, which was a direct heir to JNA organization with little improvement. During 1991, an important role in the Yugo/Serb military assault forces was filled by paramilitary units like Beli Orlovi, Srpski Četnički Pokret, etc. that committed numerous massacres against Croat and other non-Serbs civilians.

    By contrast to this force, the Croatian Army was in much worse state. At the early stages of the war, lack of military units meant that the Croatian police force would take much of the brunt of fighting - eventually the police would form the core of the new military force - initially named "Zbor Narodne Garde" (ZNG), later "Hrvatska Vojska" (HV) - that was formed in 1990,[citation needed] but not really developed until 1993. Weaponry was always lacking and many units were formed either unarmed or with WW2-era rifles. The Croatian Army had just a handful of tanks (even older WW2 veterans like the T-34) and its air-force was even worse: a few old Antonov An-2 biplane crop-dusters were converted to drop makeshift bombs. However, since the soldiers were defending their homeland the army was exceptionally motivated, and was formed into local fighting units - so people from a village would defend their own village - which meant they were fairly effective in their home grounds. In August 1991, the Croat Army had fewer than 20 brigades, which would grow to 60 by the end of the year through general mobilization which was initiated in October. Seizing of JNA's barracks in the Battle of the barracks would slightly alleviate the problem of equipment shortage. Local volunteers and organizations like HOS were formed early on to ease the problem of lack of units, but were later integrated into the regular army.

    By 1995, the Croatian Army would develop into an effective fighting force centered on the elite "Guard Brigades" (eight) and less effective "Home Defence Regiments" and regular brigades (most of which were reorganized into Regiments in 1992). This organization meant that in later campaigns, the Croatian army would pursue a variant of blitzkrieg tactics, with Guard brigades taking the role of punching holes in the enemy lines, while other units simply held the front at other points and completed the encirclement of enemy units.
    As you can read, there dosen't seem to be an regular army at the outbreak of the war, but instead, homeguard were forms and the local police became the ground on which later the army was built upon later in 1993...

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    Hax, here you have new Zadar picture. Please convert to .bmp so I don't have to send the whole package on my crappy connection.



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  15. #2015
    Amallric could you now find military leaders for ALBania
    It is not possible.

  16. #2016
    Okey, started with the roundels. Is the result okey or do someone feel they're better and want to do it instead?

    Bosnia and Herzegovina:



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    And when you look at them, you must understand it's very hard to keep the details since it's so few pixels. Compare my work with that of Paradox, so you'll see its just not me that's having a hard time with the counters :



    EDIT: And hax, no need to save them. I'll send you the whole package when it's done, because I'll have to convert them to paradox 8-bit palette so they can be used in-game.
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  17. #2017
    They are excellent in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amallric View Post
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    This.

  19. #2019
    I believe the bosnian flag should be the lilies-on-the-white flag...

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