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    Yugoslav Wars

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    The Scenario Time:
    Starts: 1 June 1991
    Ends: 31 December 1999

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    Timelines:

    Albania
    Albania, recently regaining its independancy from the Axis occupation of World War II, was the only Country in the East that was able to throw the Germans out without the assistance of Communist Troops.
    Enver Hoxha, a French-Educated Politican became the leader of the Communist Party, and ruled the country with an iron fist for almost 40 Years, established an Alliance with the Soviet Union. After breaking with the Soviet Union, Albania was closely tied to Mao Zedong's China,
    receiving a lot of aid from the Asian power. In the 70s, following the death of Mao Zedong and the ending of Albania's political ties with China, a lot of state officials were purged in the 70s.
    Following the Death of Enver Hoxha, the Iron Fisted Dictator of Albania, only time may tell what the future of this country might be, a country that has fought so hard and long for its independence...


    Bosnia
    The 1990 parliamentary elections led to a national assembly dominated by three ethnically based parties, which had formed a loose coalition to oust the communists from power. Croatia and Slovenia's subsequent declarations of independence and the warfare that ensued placed Bosnia and Herzegovina and its three constituent peoples in an awkward position. A significant split soon developed on the issue of whether to stay with the Yugoslav federation (overwhelmingly favoured among Serbs) or seek independence (overwhelmingly favoured among Bosniaks and Croats). The Serb members of parliament, consisting mainly of the Serb Democratic Party members, abandoned the central parliament in Sarajevo, and formed the Assembly of the Serb People of Bosnia and Herzegovina on 24 October 1991, which marked the end of the three-ethnic coalition that governed after the elections in 1990. After the start of the war in Bosnia, the peoples which it consisted of have split in an all out war. But except the civil war, Bosnia also got attacked by its neighbours. The only populace, which remained loyal to the Bosnian government was the Bosniak population. The Bosniak army was formed in poor circumstances and suffered from a very limited supply of arms. Critical deficiencies include tanks and other heavy weaponry.
    Will Bosnia survive in this dire times as a united country, or will it collapse and be partitioned among its enemies?


    Croatia
    The Republic of Croatia, inhabited by a strongly nationalistic population, was a part of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. Some would have called it a socialist republic with autonomy. In the 1980s Albania demanded the separation of Kosovo from Serbia, which was the beginning of the end of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. The Serbs began to influence government officials and in 1992 Milan Babic, president of the Republika Srbska Krajina stated that he had been "strongly influenced by Serb propaganda." In the pending Operation Storm, and Serb rebellions, will the Croatian army be able to liberate their beloved country?

    Republika Srpska Krajina
    The Self-Proclaimed Republic of Krajina, a Serb-dominated entity within the borders of Croatia, came under the rule of Milan Babic, a Croatian dentist.
    The Serbs, with the help of the Yugoslav Army, established the Republic, and exiled almost 100.000 Croatians and Non-Serbs to the Croatian-Controlled parts of Croatia.
    Under the lead of Milan Martic and Milan Babic, will the strong Serbian Military be able to hold their ground, so that their beloved Republic may remain, or will they fail, and order in Croatia will be restored once more...?


    Republika Srpska
    During the political crisis that followed the secession of Slovenia and Croatia from the former Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia on June 25, 1991, a separate Bosnian Serb Assembly was founded on October 24, 1991, as the representative body of Serbs in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Bosnian Serbs claimed that this was a necessary step since the Constitution of Bosnia and Herzegovina, at that time, defined that no major changes were to be granted short of a unanimous agreement on all three sides. Bosniaks and Bosnian Croats wanted independence for Bosnia against the Bosnian Serbs’ wishes. From February 29 to March 2, 1992, Bosnia and Herzegovina held a referendum on independence. The majority of Bosnian Serbs boycotted the vote on the grounds that it was unconstitutional because the referendum bypassed the veto power of the representatives of the Serbian people in the Bosnian parliament. On April 6, 1992, the European Union formally recognized the independence of Bosnia and Herzegovina. The Serbian Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina declared its independence on April 7, 1992. On August 12, 1992, the reference to Bosnia and Herzegovina was dropped from the name, and it became simply Republika Srpska. On May 12, 1992, at a session of the Bosnian Serb Assembly, Radovan Karadžić announced the six "strategic objectives" of the Serbian people in Bosnia and Herzegovina:

    Establish state borders separating the Serbian people from the other two ethnic communities.
    Set up a corridor between Semberija and Krajina.
    Establish a corridor in the Drina river valley, that is, eliminate the Drina as a border separating Serbian states.
    Establish a border on the Una and Neretva rivers.
    Divide the city of Sarajevo into Serbian and Bosniak parts and establish effective state authorities in both parts.
    Ensure access to the sea for Republika Srpska.

    Will Republika Srpska be able to fulfil these objectives or will it fall for the Republic of Bosnia?


    Slovenia
    Slovenia became a part of Yugoslavia in the year 1918, following the collapse of the Austo-Hungarian empire. In the seven decades in which Slovenia was a part of Yugoslavia, it was the most developed republic of the state. Since the 1950s, the Socialist Republic of Slovenia enjoyed a relatively wide autonomy. In 1990, Slovenia abandoned its socialist infrastructure, the first free and democratic elections were held, and the DEMOS coalition defeated the former Communist parties. The state reconstituted itself as the Republic of Slovenia. In December 1990, the overwhelming majority of Slovenian citizens voted for independence, which was declared on 25 June 1991. Just 2 days later the Yugoslav army attacked Slovenia in order to subdue the defected republic. Will the slovenian territorial defence be able to repulse the intervention and get international recognition?

    Herzeg-Bosna
    On November 18 1991, the extreme elements of the HDZBiH (Croatian Democratic Union of Bosnia and Herzegovina), led by Boban and Kordic, proclaimed the existence of the Croatian Community of Herzeg-Bosnia, as a separate "political, cultural, economic and territorial whole," on the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Its military the HVO (Croatian Defence Council) was established on April 8, 1992 in Grude by the political leadership of Croats, mainly members of Croatian Democratic Union (Hrvatska Demokratska Zajednica) as a military formation of Herzeg-Bosnia. Will Herzeg-Bosnia try to fully defect from BiH and unite with Croatia, or will it try to achieve full Independence, or set aside its difference with the Bosniaks and establish a united front against the Serbs?

    Vojvodina
    At first, the province enjoyed only a small level of autonomy within Serbia, but it gained extensive rights of self-rule under the 1974 Yugoslav constitution, which gave both Kosovo and Vojvodina de facto veto power in the Serbian and Yugoslav parliaments, as changes to their status could not be made without the consent of the two Provincial Assemblies. The 1974 Serbian constitution, adopted at the same time, reiterated that "the Socialist Republic of Serbia comprises the Socialist Autonomous Province of Vojvodina and the Socialist Autonomous Province of Kosovo, which originated in the common struggle of nations and nationalities of Yugoslavia in the National Liberation War (the Second World War) and socialist revolution".
    Under the rule of the Serbian president Slobodan Miloševic, Vojvodina and Kosovo lost most of their autonomy in September 1990. Vojvodina was still referred to as an autonomous province of Serbia, but most of its autonomous powers - including, crucially, its vote on the Yugoslav collective presidency - were transferred to the control of Belgrade. The province, however, still had its own parliament and government and some other autonomous functions as well.
    Will Vojvodina try to restore its autonomy or try to fully defect from Serbia.


    Kosovo
    Kosovo was conquered in the year 1455 by the Ottoman Empire. Since then Kosovo was part of the Ottoman Empire from 1455 to 1912. During this time, Islam was introduced to the population. An Albanian uprising in 1912 exposed the Empires Northern territories in Kosovo and Novi Pazar which led to an invasion by the Kingdom of Montenegro. The Ottomans suffered a serious defeat at the hands of Albanians in 1912, culminating in the Ottoman loss of most of its Albanian inhabited lands. In the winter of 1915–16, during World War I, Kosovo saw the retreat of the Serbian army as Kosovo was occupied by Bulgaria and Austria-Hungary, which was liberated by the Serbian army in 1918. After the invasion of Yugoslavia in the second world war, large parts of Kosovo became a part of Italian-controlled Albania, other parts went to Bulgaria and German-occupied Military Administration of Serbia. The province as in its outline today first took shape in 1945 as the Autonomous Kosovo-Metohian Area. On June 28, 1989, Slobodan Miloševic delivered the Gazimestan speech in front of a large number of Serb citizens at the main celebration marking the 600th anniversary of the Battle of Kosovo. On July 2, 1990, the self declared Kosovo parliament declared Kosovo an independent country, the Republic of Kosova. In May 1992, Ibrahim Rugova was elected president.Will Kosovo defeat the Serbian army and become an independent state recognized by others?

    Sandžak
    Sandžak is a historical region lying along the border between Serbia and Montenegro. It derives its name from the Sanjak of Novi Pazar, a former Ottoman administrative district that existed until the Balkan Wars of 1912.During the centuries of Ottoman rule the Sanjak of Novi Pazar was a part of the Province of Bosnia before coming under the Kosovo Province in 1878. During World War I, Sandžak was under occupation of Austria-Hungary from 1914 to 1918. In 1918, Serbia and Montenegro united before creating the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. Most of Sandžak was under Italian occupation in World War II, mostly under the Governorate of Montenegro (The city of Novi Pazar was included into Serbia, while Plav and Rožaje were included into Italian ruled Albania), and under German occupation from 1943. At the end of the war, Sandžak was divided between Serbia and Montenegro, according to the initial division agreement between the two states from 1913.The Yugoslav wars of the 1990s left Sandžak largely unscathed, although the wars in Bosnia and Kosovo led to ethnic tensions and (in the latter case) bombing by NATO forces. According to Sandžak Bosniak political parties, some 60,000-80,000 Bosniaks emigrated from the region during this period, as a result of oppression and police raids throughout Sandžak. A number of group killings of Bosniaks occurred 1992–1995, with the most notable ones being the cases of Sjeverin (near Priboj), Bukovica (near Pljevlja), and Štrpci (near Prijepolje). Will Bosnian people survive in this unstable period?

    Macedonia
    In antiquity, most of the territory that is now the Republic of Macedonia was included in the kingdom of Paeonia, which was populated by the Paeonians, a people of Thracian origins. In the early 13th century, a revived Bulgarian Empire gained control of the region. Plagued by political difficulties the empire did not last and the region came once again under Byzantine control in early 14th century. In the 14th century, it became part of the Serbian Empire, who saw themselves as liberators of their Slavic kin from Byzantine despotism. Skopje became the capital of Tsar Stefan Dusan's empire. Preobrazhenie Uprising 1903 against the Ottomans, which after some initial successes, including the forming of the "Krushevo Republic", was crushed with much loss of life. The uprising and the forming of the Krushevo Republic are considered the cornerstone and precursors to the eventual establishment of the Macedonian state. Following the two Balkan wars of 1912 and 1913 and the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire, most of its European held territories were divided between Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia. The territory of the modern Macedonian state was then named Južna Srbija. During World War II, Yugoslavia was occupied by the Axis Powers from 1941 to 1945. The Vardar Banovina was divided between Bulgaria and Italian occupied Albania. In 1944 the Anti-Fascist Assembly for the National Liberation of Macedonia (ASNOM) proclaimed the People's Republic of Macedonia as part of the People's Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. ASNOM remained an acting government until the end of the war. On September 8, 1991 Macedonia proclaimed independence from SFRJ. Will Macedonia sit idle while the peoples of Yugoslavia fight among them selfs or take a side?

    Montenegro
    Montenegro achieved the recognition of independence in 1878 under the rule of Nicolas I. In 1910 Montenegro became a Kingdom. It initiated the Balkan wars in 1912 and 1913 in which the Ottomans lost all lands in the Balkans, achieving a common border with Serbia, but the Skadar was awarded to a newly created Albania. In World War I in 1914 Montenegro sided with Serbia against the Central Powers, suffering a full scale defeat to Austria-Hungary in early 1916. In 1918 the Allies liberated Montenegro, which was subsequently merged with Serbia. In 1922 Montenegro formally became the Zeta Area of the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, and in 1929 it became a part of a larger Zeta Banate of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. In World War II Yugoslavia was invaded by the Axis forces in 1941, who established a puppet Independent State of Montenegro, liberated by the Yugoslav Partisans in 1944. Montenegro became a constituent republic of the communist Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (SFRY), its capital renamed to Titograd in honor of Partisan leader and SFRY president Josip "Tito" Broz. After the dissolution of the SFRY in 1992, Montenegro remained part of a smaller Federal Republic of Yugoslavia along with Serbia. Will Montenegro turn sides or once more stay side by side with Serbia?

    NATO
    The North Atlantic Treaty Organization, also called "the (North) Atlantic Alliance", is an intergovernmental military alliance based on the North Atlantic Treaty which was signed on April 4, 1949. The NATO headquarters are in Brussels, Belgium, and the organization constitutes a system of collective defense whereby its member states agree to mutual defense in response to an attack by any external party. Will NATO intervene in the Balkan wars or just stand by and see the things unfold?

    The Autonomous Province of Western Bosnia
    The Autonomous Province of Western Bosnia was a small unrecognized entity in the northwest of Bosnia and Herzegovina. It consisted of the town of Velika Kladuša and a few nearby villages, and existed between 1993 and 1995 as a result of secessionist politics by Fikret Abdić against the Bosnian central government during the Bosnian War. The capital of Western Bosnia was Velika Kladuša. The Autonomous Province cooperated with Serbia as well as Croatia against Bosnian government in the light of Karađorđevo agreement meant to redistribute Bosnia and Herzegovina between Croatia and Serbia. Fikret Abdić's role in undermining the Bosnian government was awarded by Croatian regime as well as Serbian. His company was granted free-custom trade zone in Croatian port of Rijeka, and free trade with Serbian-controlled territories.

    Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
    The Federal Republic of Yugoslavia has its origins in the ending of the Second World War, as Yugoslav Partisans took control of the Area after Nazi Germany's surrender, and established the FPRY, or the Federative People's Republic of Yugoslavia.
    Its first President, Ivan Ribar, ruled for 7 years after being succeeded by Josip Broz - Tito, the former Prime Minister of Ribar's Cabinet. Tito allied Yugoslavia with the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, the Soviet Dictator, and the Yugoslav Army shot down 2 American Airplanes that flew over Yugoslav Airspace.
    This caused a deep distrust of Tito in the US, and even Stalin himself distrusted Tito.
    In 1948, a Crisis between Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union led to the end of all remaining friendly relations between the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia.
    Yugoslavia was now free from the Soviet Union, and formed its own Communism, called "Titoism".
    Yugoslavia remained neutral in the Cold War, and now, with several cultural groups demanding independence, it will be up to its leaders and once proud patriotic people to lead them through this unstable period...


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    Code:
    The countrys:
    
    ALB Albania 
    BOS Bosnia 
    CRO Croatia 
    SER Serbia 
    SLV Slovenia 
    MTN Montenegro
    U00 NATO
    U01 Kosova 
    U02 Vojvodina
    U03 Herzeg-Bosna
    U04 Republika Srpska
    U05 Sandzak
    U06 Republika Srpska Krajina
    U07 Autonomous Province of Western Bosnia
    U08 Macedonia 
    U09 Serbia and Montenegro
    U10 Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
    YUG Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
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    # Credits

    Thanks:
    Hax - Creator of mod
    Gukan - Map Modder
    TeutonburgerW - GFX Maker & Hax's Personal Modding Adviser
    Vaximillian - GFX Modder
    Amallric - Minister looker and Map Helper
    Mesina2 - Picture Looker
    Supaplex - Picture Looker
    JRHINDO - Sound Modder and Tech tree creator
    El-Fatih - Minister and Millitary Leader Looker and Map Corrector

    Bad_Haggis - Minister Looker
    Delex - Description writer
    soulking - Minister looker
    Wiking - Description writer
    PhilleP - Description writer
    Van der Gent - Graphic help

    Zokan for providing this mod with ministers for Croatia and Herzeg-Bosna and military leaders for Croatia, Herzeg-Bosna and Slovenia!
    TRP for providing this mod with awesome alternative GFX!

    Thanks to the following great modders who allowed us to use parts of their mod to create our gfx database!
    Fernando Torres - WiF
    quintelosky - Mod34
    Horton13 - GIP

    Note: If you spot something belonging to you, then we are sorry we forgot to remove it.

    If I have forgotten to put a name in the list, please tell me!
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    Code:
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    # YW004
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    # General
    
    - New tech tree made by JRHINDO, but not playable yet
    - Added airports for Slovenia, Croatia and Kosova
    - Some events updated
    - New military leaders for Croatian and Slovenia
    - Added Novi Zagreb and Novi Beograd as urban provinces
    
    # GFX
    
    - Added Novi Zagreb and Novi Beograd urban pictures
    - New tech tree made by JRHINDO
    - Whole new GFX interface
    
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    # YW003
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    # General
    
    - Fixed SKINS for Macedonia and Western Bosnia
    - All urban cities added
    - Added minister (.csv) files for RSK, RS, WB and H-B
    - Updates some events
    - added new text.txt file in config
    - Added RSK, RS, WB and H-B as revolt countries
    
    # GFX
    
    - New loadscreen and bg_start
    - All urban cities pictures added
    - New event pictures
    
    # Music
    
    - Alternative music pack
    
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    # YW002
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    # General
    
    - Reassigned nation TAGS: U07 (Western Bosnia), U08 (Macedonia), U09 (Serbia and Montenegro) and U10 (FR of Yugoslavia)
    - Added SFRY to starting scenario (YUG)
    
    # Map
    
    - Fixed wrong connection in adj-def
    
    # DB
    - Added minister .csv for SFRY
    - Added initial events for succesion of Slovenia and Croatia
    - Added events for the revoke of puppetstatus of Kosova and Vojdovina
    
    # Scenario
    - Updated scenario with SFRY as off-map nation
    
    # Bugs
    - Bug1: Wrong capital for Bosnia (Fixed)
    - Bug2: Both Macedonia and Serbia had red as mapcolor
    
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    # YW001a
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    - Added ministers for Vojdovina and Republika Srpska Krajina (RSK)
    - Added corresponding GFX for ministers of Vojdovina and RSK
    - Revised starting ministers in Vojdovina.inc
    
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    # Yugoslav Wars
    # 001
    # 18 april, 2010
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    - Starting ministers in and nations adapted to the politcal scheme
    - Descriptions added for all nations
    - New scenario: 1st of June, 1991
    - New political scheme (kudos to MDS)
    - New GFX:
    	Skins
    	Province pictures and pictures for starting nations capitals
    	New front graphics
    	New resource icons graphics
    	New counters
    	New colorscale
    - New nations added: Serbia, Vojdovina, Kosova, Albania, Macedonia, Bosnia, Croatia and Slovenia.
    - Completly new map
    ### Yugoslav Wars MOD ###
    ### Version 0.04 ###

    Download link to the right (65 MB) ------------------------------------------------------------------------> DOWNLOAD
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    Optional Music Pack (238 MB)------------------------------------------------------------------------------> DOWNLOAD
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    How to install:
    
    # Yugoslav War
    # Version: 0.04
    # Tested with: ARMA 1.2 and ARMA 1.3 beta 2
    
    - Extract YW004.rar
    - Take JSGME.exe and put in your Armageddon root folder.
    - Doubleclick JSGME.exe and a new window will come up
    - Press OK
    - A new folder called "MODS" will appear. 
    - Drag the folder YW004 into that folder
    - Doubleclick JSGME.exe once again
    - Choose YW004 and the ">" button.
    - You're ready to go & play!
    No challenge to copyright intended, used purely for fan purposes without profit.
    Last edited by Hax; 06-02-2011 at 14:39.

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    Just a few notes for you:

    - You cannot create new TAGs. In other words, you cannot use tag "NAT" or "KOS" since they are not in the game. Adding them would cause crashing.
    - I really don't think you should put effort on making a map. You just learned to write events, and creating a new map is a process that takes up to months.
    - Yugoslav Wars with whole World Map would be the same as playing MDS with a few new events.
    - You should make this into a battlescenario, which would fit in MDS as a miniscenario for it.
    - Since Yugoslavia is a relatively small area in HoI2, you'll gonna need a lot of events to maintain playability.
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    Nice idea, but it will have to wait until the E3 Map and MDS 1.6 map gets finished.

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    Thanks, Lord Finn yes i meant that it will be a battlescenario.
    And so you now i will most give 75% of my work to ANNO.

    Sgt Optimus you make so good flags, do you want to be the flag maker in this mod?

    Is it possible to change the flag with a event in a game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    Is it possible to change the flag with a event in a game?
    Nope

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    Ιt is not Macedonia. It is Former Yugoslavic Republic Of Macedonia or FYROM.
    Now, you can change the word in the right of U08 to FYROM
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    He can write Macedonia, Pigland, Unknown, L33thaxlol or GreeceWePwnYou for all he cares, it's his mod.

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    Οk , with this logic, if I make a mod, I will name it " I f@@k you all , you silly paradoxians" and noone will tell me nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prinz Wilhelm View Post
    He can write Macedonia, Pigland, Unknown, L33thaxlol or GreeceWePwnYou for all he cares, it's his mod.
    Yeah, but if you want to create an historical accurate mod, then you have to name it FYROM. Political differences asside prinze Wilhelm...

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    Sgt Optimus do you want to make tha flags for this mod? Yes or No
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    Voting for Macedonia or Fyrom! Look on first post!

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    As tempting as it sound I have to refuse at the moment, for I'm quite bussy writing a homework/project plus I have some exams comming up. Later.

    As for macedonian state name I vote for: FYROM.

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    FYROM

    Sgt. Optimus, you know history
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    Republic of Macedonia is the name it's recognised as by most countries and therfore it would be very much correct to call it Macedonia.
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    It's accepted in UN under the name FYROM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Optimus View Post
    It's accepted in UN under the name FYROM.
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...DisputeMap.svg

    All blue nations use Republic of Macedonia and all red FYROM.

    Besides, FYROM is only recognised as a temporary name anyway.
    I used to be the commander of the Swedish Forum in the Fatherland.

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    I vote Macedonia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van der Gent View Post
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    All blue nations use Republic of Macedonia and all red FYROM.

    Besides, FYROM is only recognised as a temporary name anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davisx3m View Post
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    I don't know, I suppose it's viewable depending in you're web browser. I use latest-ish version of firefox and it works well.
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