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    So still no units? How is the mod going, I have not been around for a while.

    Good luck guys, hope you finish it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dysydent View Post
    Is this mod still alive?
    Well, I guess that they moved it somewhere or it is dead.

    Damn!

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    OK. I am back reading this thread...

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    I have found all possible airports for Serbia. So now should we or should we not have level 1 airports(grass or dirt tracks)? Some lighter planes can land there as well as helicopters but MiGs or other fighter planes no way. Is it possible to lower the recovery speed so it becomes really bad to have any fighters there? And somehow improve the helicopters stats so that they can better be used there. How shall we handle this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    I have found all possible airports for Serbia. So now should we or should we not have level 1 airports(grass or dirt tracks)? Some lighter planes can land there as well as helicopters but MiGs or other fighter planes no way. Is it possible to lower the recovery speed so it becomes really bad to have any fighters there? And somehow improve the helicopters stats so that they can better be used there. How shall we handle this?
    I'll look into it lowering recovery. I this this is hardcoded and depends on unit morale. We won't be able to do much about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogar View Post
    I'll look into it lowering recovery. I this this is hardcoded and depends on unit morale. We won't be able to do much about it...
    Okay see what you can do about that, I will find all airports but will deactivate those with level 1. I will put all airports on the map in one text file.

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    I have also been playing with the generic events to manage relationships between SFRY and republics. Depending how well this is going different decisions become available. I have only two at the moment:
    - Stop paying into federal budget
    This decision breaks puppet relation which in turn stops puppets paying to SFRY resources. This will need to be managed as percentage of payback is coded in the misc file.
    - Stop sending recruits
    This decision basically drops the level of troops JNA can recall when it goes into war. This I haven't really worked out yet. But this should lead to percentage drop of manpower in units and potential JNA can recall in case of war.

    What else we could have here? Embargoes?
    I am thinking of SFRY paying back some money to republics it has a good relationship with. This might be hard to manage but it could be one off payment every x-months to all republics as long as they are still loyal.

    Code:
    event = {
       id = 168104
       random = no
       tag = { SLV CRO U08 BOS SER MTN }
    	picture = "news_paper"
    
       decision = { 
          relation = { which = YUG value = -40 }
          NOT = { local_flag = independence }
       } 
       decision_trigger = { 
          NOT = { local_flag = federal_support1 }
          relation = { which = YUG value = -50 } 
          NOT = { local_flag = independence }
       }
    	trigger = { 
          NOT = { local_flag = federal_support1 }
          relation = { which = YUG value = -50 } 
          NOT = { local_flag = independence }
       }
            
       date = { day = 15 month = january year = 1990 }
       offset = 1
       deathdate = { day = 1 month = may year = 2000 }
       name = "Stop supporting Federal institutions - Budget"
       desc = "Increasingly our citizens looked for ways to distance from Yugoslavia. Federal budget will really be hurt if we stop paying taxes."
    
       action_a = {
          name = "A big dent in JNA budget..."
          command = { trigger = {country = SLV } type = end_trades which = YUG where = SLV } 
          command = { trigger = {country = CRO } type = end_trades which = YUG where = CRO } 
          command = { trigger = {country = BOS } type = end_trades which = YUG where = BOS } 
          command = { trigger = {country = U08 } type = end_trades which = YUG where = U08 } 
          command = { trigger = {country = U08 } type = end_trades which = YUG where = SER } 
          command = { trigger = {country = U08 } type = end_trades which = YUG where = MTN }
          command = { type = end_puppet }
          command = { type = relation which = YUG value = -20 }
          command = { type = local_clrflag which = federal_support1 }
       }
       action_b = {
          name = "Not now..."
          command = { type = relation which = YUG value = 5 }
       }
    }
    event = {
       id = 168105
       random = no
       tag = { SLV CRO U08 BOS SER MTN }
    	picture = "news_paper"
    
       decision = { 
          relation = { which = YUG value = -90 }
          NOT = { local_flag = independence }
       } 
       decision_trigger = { 
          NOT = { local_flag = federal_support2 }
          relation = { which = YUG value = -100 } 
          NOT = { local_flag = independence }
       }
    	trigger = { 
          NOT = { local_flag = federal_support2 }
          relation = { which = YUG value = -100 } 
          NOT = { local_flag = independence }
       }
            
       date = { day = 15 month = january year = 1990 }
       offset = 1
       deathdate = { day = 1 month = may year = 2000 }
       name = "Stop supporting Federal institutions - Recruits"
       desc = "Increasingly our citizens looked for ways to distance from Yugoslavia. Manpower loss will significantly lessen JNA ability to threaten us."
    
       action_a = {
          name = "A big dent in JNA manpower..."
          # corresponding manpower loss
          # some flag for JNA mobilisation....
          command = { type = relation which = YUG value = -20 }
          command = { type = local_clrflag which = federal_support2 }
       }
       action_b = {
          name = "Not now..."
          command = { type = relation which = YUG value = 5 }
       }
    }

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    I also have these events which could fit with my post above. This is recall of JNA officers:

    Code:
    event = {
    	id = 168002
    	random = no
    	tag = { SLV CRO U08 BOS }
    	picture = "news_paper"
    	
    	decision = {
          OR = {
             relation = { which = YUG value = -75 } 
             war = {country = YUG country = -1}
          }
       }
    
    	decision_trigger = { 
          NOT = { local_flag = jna_officers }
          atwar = yes }
    
    	trigger = { 
          NOT = { local_flag = jna_officers }
          atwar = yes }
    
    	name = "JNA officers"
    	desc = "Trained officers are joining our ranks. Suspicion regarding the whether officers are still loyal to old masters caused some countries to marginalise them..." 
    	style = 2
    
    	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1990 }
    	offset = 10
    	deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 2000 }
    
    	action_a = {
    		name = "Accept them all..."
    		command = { type = hq_supply_eff value = 0.1 }
    		command = { type = morale which = land value = -2 } # distrust
          command = { type = local_setflag which = jna_officers }
          command = { trigger = { country = CRO } type = trigger which = 2103 }
          command = { trigger = { country = SLV } type = trigger which = 2104 }
          command = { trigger = { country = U08 } type = trigger which = 2105 }
          command = { trigger = { country = BOS } type = trigger which = 2106 }
    	}
       action_b = {
    		name = "Accept only low ranking ones..."
    		command = { type = hq_supply_eff value = 0.05 }
    		command = { type = max_organization which = land value = 2 } # educated officers
          command = { type = local_setflag which = jna_officers }
          command = { trigger = { country = CRO } type = trigger which = 2103 }
          command = { trigger = { country = SLV } type = trigger which = 2104 }
          command = { trigger = { country = U08 } type = trigger which = 2105 }
          command = { trigger = { country = BOS } type = trigger which = 2106 }
    	}
    }
    event = {
    	id = 168003
    	random = no
    	tag = { U04 U06 U09 U11 }
    	picture = "news_paper"
    	
    	decision = { atwar = yes }
    
    	decision_trigger = { 
          NOT = { local_flag = jna_officers }
          atwar = yes }
    
    	trigger = { NOT = { local_flag = jna_officers }
                atwar = yes }
    
    	name = "JNA officers"
    	desc = "JNA Trained officers are joining our ranks." 
    	style = 2
    
    	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1990 }
    	offset = 10
    	deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 2000 }
    
    	action = {
    		name = "Accept them all..."
    		command = { type = hq_supply_eff value = 0.2 }
          command = { type = local_setflag which = jna_officers }
          command = { type = max_organization which = land value = 5 }
          command = { type = morale which = land value = 5 }
    	}
    }
    
    event = {
    	id = 168004
    	random = no
    	country = YUG
    	picture = "news_paper"
    	
    	decision = {
          year = 1992
       }
    
    	decision_trigger = { 
          year = 1992
          atwar = no }
    
        trigger = { 
          year = 1992
          atwar = no }
    
    	name = "JNA officer purges"
    	desc = "Many officers of non-Serbian background proved to be a obstacle in promoting JNA goals. Following wars with Western republics is it time to purge suspect officers?" 
    	style = 2
    
    	date = { day = 1 month = april year = 1992 }
    	offset = 10
    	deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1992 }
    
    	action_a = {
    		name = "Purge them all..."
          command = { type = max_organization value = 45 }
    	}
    }

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    If someone is looking for a challenge do you think we could have famous quotes at the game load screen reworked to include (only) quotes from Yugoslav history? Some of these are infamous when I think about it... Examples below....

    "Theirs we don't want, ours we don't give" - Josip Broz Tito
    "Croatian rifle on Croatian shoulder and Croatian billfold in Croatian pocket" - Stjepan Radic
    "Do not rush like geese in fog" - on Yugoslav formation - Stjepan Radic
    "...and do not think that you will not perhaps lead the Muslim people into annihilation..." - Radovan Karadzic
    "Only Unity Saves the Serbs" - Unknown

    Please keep this civil!!!

    Note: this file easily breaks the game. It is 'csv' format so any commas in the file will break it. You need to find out how to create a csv file tat allow commas inclusion. It must be somewhere on the net...

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    Last request today. I promise:
    Those who have the latest beta, can you tell me why relations for some countries are not loading correctly?
    I am pushing this grand design based on relations but can't load relations from inc files correctly

    Example: Croatia and Macedonia should have relations +150 at the start but keep loading as -50.

    EDIT2: I remove all diplomacy set up from all inc files. I leave only BOS with diplomacy settings: In brackets() is what games loads:

    diplomacy =
    {
    relation = { tag = ALB value = 0 } (-25)
    relation = { tag = SLV value = 150 } (149)
    relation = { tag = YUG value = 50 } (49)
    relation = { tag = SER value = 50 } (49)
    relation = { tag = MTN value = 50 } (49)
    relation = { tag = U04 value = -50 } (-100)
    relation = { tag = U06 value = 0 } (-100)
    relation = { tag = U08 value = 150 } (25)
    relation = { tag = U03 value = 0 } (25)
    relation = { tag = CRO value = 100 } (99)
    }


    EDIT3: I've asked on help thread in DH forums. For now I've set up ai event that set relationship for all participants on day 0.
    Last edited by Hogar; 12-01-2014 at 16:40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogar View Post
    If someone is looking for a challenge do you think we could have famous quotes at the game load screen reworked to include (only) quotes from Yugoslav history? Some of these are infamous when I think about it... Examples below....

    "Theirs we don't want, ours we don't give" - Josip Broz Tito
    "Croatian rifle on Croatian shoulder and Croatian billfold in Croatian pocket" - Stjepan Radic
    "Do not rush like geese in fog" - on Yugoslav formation - Stjepan Radic
    "...and do not think that you will not perhaps lead the Muslim people into annihilation..." - Radovan Karadzic
    "Only Unity Saves the Serbs" - Unknown

    Please keep this civil!!!

    Note: this file easily breaks the game. It is 'csv' format so any commas in the file will break it. You need to find out how to create a csv file tat allow commas inclusion. It must be somewhere on the net...
    I can do that but later as it isn't so important to have right now. Let's focus first on having a working map, scenario and AI. I have already some quotes saved.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hogar View Post
    Last request today. I promise:
    Those who have the latest beta, can you tell me why relations for some countries are not loading correctly?
    I am pushing this grand design based on relations but can't load relations from inc files correctly

    Example: Croatia and Macedonia should have relations +150 at the start but keep loading as -50.

    EDIT2: I remove all diplomacy set up from all inc files. I leave only BOS with diplomacy settings: In brackets() is what games loads:

    diplomacy =
    {
    relation = { tag = ALB value = 0 } (-25)
    relation = { tag = SLV value = 150 } (149)
    relation = { tag = YUG value = 50 } (49)
    relation = { tag = SER value = 50 } (49)
    relation = { tag = MTN value = 50 } (49)
    relation = { tag = U04 value = -50 } (-100)
    relation = { tag = U06 value = 0 } (-100)
    relation = { tag = U08 value = 150 } (25)
    relation = { tag = U03 value = 0 } (25)
    relation = { tag = CRO value = 100 } (99)
    }


    EDIT3: I've asked on help thread in DH forums. For now I've set up ai event that set relationship for all participants on day 0.
    Yes best would be to ask on the DH forum, some of the programmers of the game could I think know the answer of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    I can do that but later as it isn't so important to have right now. Let's focus first on having a working map, scenario and AI. I have already some quotes saved.
    Agree... I just thought if you have some volunteers that have nothing better to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogar View Post
    Agree... I just thought if you have some volunteers that have nothing better to do.
    Don't worry about that, I will find somebody who can help us with the quotes.
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    Hey guys,
    Could someone write few events that would have a positive effect on Yugoslav unity? I need these pretty quick for testing!
    I can remember Basketball tournament maybe Red Start winning Champions league, Eurosong... Anything else you can remember? JNA parade?
    Result of it should be a improved relationship with SFRY. It shouldn't be more then few points (upto 5).
    Cheers,
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    Will take a look.

    Also what is the progress on the map rework, and what is to be changed anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRHINDO View Post
    Also what is the progress on the map rework, and what is to be changed anyway?
    Gukan fixed some rives between Croat and Bosnia. He added a province between Vinkovici and Vukovar.
    I've asked him to remove rivers in Albania/Macedonia. At the moment it is possible to send fleet from Adratic to Ohrid lake which is impossible navigate in canoe let alone by boat.
    ...
    EDIT: I've asked Hax to chase Gukan but not sure if there was any response.
    Last edited by Hogar; 13-01-2014 at 00:23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogar View Post
    Gukan fixed some rives between Croat and Bosnia. He added a province between Vinkovici and Vukovar.
    I've asked him to remove rivers in Albania/Macedonia. At the moment it is possible to send fleet from Adratic to Ohrid lake which is impossible navigate in canoe let alone by boat.
    ...
    EDIT: I've asked Hax to chase Gukan but not sure if there was any response.
    I haven't asked him yet but will do it in 2-3 days. Must first see what we would like him to change.

    Isn't the rivers corrected in the version you sent me Hogar? Do you know maybe something more that we could ask him to make/change? I'm thinking of maybe make the borders around Sarajevo more like the front during the war and maybe add one or two there.

    We should also change the name from Staro Sarajevo(Old Sarajevo) to to just Sarajevo on the map as it's more correct. When searching for airports I found that Laktasi(the Banja Luka airport is on our map located there) is on the east side of the river Vrbas which is wrong.

    As said do you know maybe something more that should be changed on the map?
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    I've noticed Area around Belgrade is very wrong.
    Rivers were only corrected around Una river (Una is not navigable any more). Other river changes are pending.

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