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    476 Scenario (For EU3)

    As can be seen by this threads title this is going to be and adaption of the 476 Scenario for EU2 to EU3 (In Nomine to be precise). From what I know there was an earlier attempt to do this but it sadly didn't end up with anything people could download and play. This is going to be different (I sincerely hope). The timespan will be 476 to 800, may change latest selectable year to 814 or possibly as late as 850 if people really really want it but at least to begin with I think it would be a good idea to focus on what I actually have reasonable information on.

    I have a plan on how I'm going to do this, and it basically is two phases. The first phase will just be to make sure we get all the countries placed on the map, this phase ends when all the area that contained countries for the EU2 version have countries. The second longer phase will on the other hand have no fixed end, it is simply getting events, ideas etc done, not to say that no events and such things will done in the first phase, it is just that that phase will not focus on such. Also note that the work done in the first phase may still see tweaking in the second phase.

    So what does this mean is going to be done now? Well tech-groups, religions and the map are the foremost things. Map changes will at the moment be limited to the provinces, I don't plan on making a map from scratch even though we aren't going to use the new world. I plan to do all of this region by region and starting with Italy, then Dalmatia and then not decided. Techgroups and religions should preferably be finalized when we get to areas they should interact with (so for now religions and techgroups for the Far East doesn't need to be decided, and for religion only catholic and arianism are necessary - but what techgroups we have in Europe should be decided as soon as possible).

    So apart from general suggestions and such, I currently want ideas on:
    a) What techgroups should Europe be divided between?

    Currently plans on having one for the Romans, one for the Goths, Vandals etc, one for the Franks, Alemanns, Saxons etc., one British, one Anglosaxon, and one Scandinavian (those last two could potentially be the same group). Also one for the Nomads.

    b) Any specific ideas on how the provinces of Italy should look (as well as their names, and preferably citynames and tradegoods, as well as cultures).

    Currently plans to reduce number in the north and to have more in the south (already moved Siena and changed it to Benevento).

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    The Whole World Mod has a very good map of Italy, ask Haftetavenscrap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r6mile View Post
    The Whole World Mod has a very good map of Italy, ask Haftetavenscrap.
    It is made for a much later period, and it is easier for me to just modify the map as it is from vanilla.

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    A small update on progress, have Italy and Dalmatia, and have plans on how to do Pannonia & Noricum, and then will get started with the actual history for later then earliest startdates. Not to say I wouldn't appreciate ideas for that area. Should be able to give a screenshot (or screenshots) during the week to show the progress. Not sure exactly where to go after this, maybe Dacia & the European ERE territories, followed by Germany and then Gaul. Ideas are still appreciated, even for those areas I supposedly have done (since it isn't too much effort to alter things).

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    Well time for some screenshots.

    The first one is a few days older then the rest (that are just a few hours old).


    Ostrogoths in Italy


    Pannonia

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    Looks good so far.

    How will you implement the age of migrations? Will people and countries move en masse like the Goths, Vandals etc did or is this not something which can be replicated in the game?

    Good luck with the project, I'll be following with interest

    Would offer to help butsadly have no modding skills whatsover.

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    Wow, that was quick.
    For if they do these things when the tree is green, what shall happen when it is dry?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Shine View Post
    Looks good so far.

    How will you implement the age of migrations? Will people and countries move en masse like the Goths, Vandals etc did or is this not something which can be replicated in the game?

    Good luck with the project, I'll be following with interest

    Would offer to help butsadly have no modding skills whatsover.
    Luckily the worst part of it is over (Visigoths, Vandals and other longdistance movers into a large WRE), but there of course some that remains. Have not yet decided exactly how to handle it, probably a mix of events, and decisions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Throne View Post
    Wow, that was quick.
    Well it is only the map and the history part (roughly done, and only up until Ostrogoths conquer Italy, plan to get the Justinian reconquest, Avars, Samo and Langobards in Italy up to the Frankish conquest added in the history files before moving to the next area which at the moment seems to be the EREs European holdings in the Balkans). The events and decisions are all vanilla ones yet, and in the end that is what is going to really take time to do I think.

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    A small progress update. Done the EREs Balkan holdings, and also added Bulgaria (the Danubian one not one the Bulgarias north of the Black Sea ). Plan to do Germania and Gaul next. Really any ideas on provinces in those areas are really welcome, have gotten so far as to decide I will extend Avignon-province to the coast and use it for Arles/Arelat.

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    Wow looks like you have quite the progress made!

    Interesting how you have made the PTI.
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    I must say, this is going to be really awesome if you can ever get it to work. Good luck!

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    Good to see you finally made the switch to EU3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by comagoosie View Post
    Wow looks like you have quite the progress made!

    Interesting how you have made the PTI.
    No PTI made, yet. It's all standard TI, at least for now.

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffSteel View Post
    I must say, this is going to be really awesome if you can ever get it to work. Good luck!
    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayavarman View Post
    Good to see you finally made the switch to EU3.
    Well, EU3 have many advantages, although EU2 is still very fun, and the work there hasn't ceased (the work on this has actually given me some things for the EU2 versions such as city names in some places).

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    Currently last worked on:

    Of what you can see there will be some changes in the Alemannia area, Elsass bigger, Breisgau extended farther to the south and become Basel, possibly one new province encompassing northern Switzerland to be in Alemanni hands.

    Then work continues on northern Gaul and Germania, then on to Hispania and after that I might upload a crude version with what I have mainly intended for those interested in helping (since it still will have only vanilla events, decisions etc. so maybe not that interesting for those that just will want to play the scenario).

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    Im hoping you dont put all your work into Europe. Most mods and games only focus on Europe and the Middle East. I hope you also put a good amount of work into China, SE asia, India, Indonesia and etc. If you need history for asian provinces just ask.

    Also i have alota info on the vikings and their invasions. Everywhere from Brittania to Constantiople.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADP101 View Post
    Im hoping you dont put all your work into Europe. Most mods and games only focus on Europe and the Middle East. I hope you also put a good amount of work into China, SE asia, India, Indonesia and etc. If you need history for asian provinces just ask.

    Also i have alota info on the vikings and their invasions. Everywhere from Brittania to Constantiople.
    When I get there I will try, though it is easier to find information about Europe, which means that Europe will likely be more accurate regardless. On funny thing, for EU2 the area I think I might have tried most to find anything was India, not easy to find information there, for instance the Kalabhras as far as i recall the information was more or less that they were there and that they were buddhist, and that they were reasonably powerful. Any help for those areas will be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofman View Post
    When I get there I will try, though it is easier to find information about Europe, which means that Europe will likely be more accurate regardless. On funny thing, for EU2 the area I think I might have tried most to find anything was India, not easy to find information there, for instance the Kalabhras as far as i recall the information was more or less that they were there and that they were buddhist, and that they were reasonably powerful. Any help for those areas will be appreciated.
    k sweet when you start working on Asia, just give me a PM ill be glad to help

    But hey, someone else at onetime was working on a 400 AD mod a while ago (i dont think they are anymore) but just remember Islam was founded in 600 AD or 650 AD i forget. but remember youll have to make it spread like the Reformation on steroids lol
    Last edited by ADP101; 31-01-2009 at 19:06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADP101 View Post
    But hey, someone else at onetime was working on a 400 AD mod a while ago (i dont think they are anymore)
    If you mean A.N.E.W.R.O.M.E. starting in 395, then I am still working on it, I'm just not posting pictures of, or mentioning, my progress, there being nothing particularly interesting about it.

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    What about relgion? Is there a spread of Christianity event?
    For if they do these things when the tree is green, what shall happen when it is dry?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Throne View Post
    What about relgion? Is there a spread of Christianity event?
    And Islam? Will these be deterministic or could they not appear? Oooh, so many questions!

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