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Pagan Mecca, so wrong yet so right. Are Rome and Judea still Catholic and Sunni, respectively?
I dub you "The Scourge of God", in the form of a Republic and coming from the other direction and into Asia, but scourgey nonetheless
I dub you "The Scourge of God", in the form of a Republic and coming from the other direction and into Asia, but scourgey nonetheless
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...the Byzantine Empire was defended by the Ottomans. Holy crap, that's awesome. 
...the Byzantine Empire was defended by the Ottomans. Holy crap, that's awesome.
Transatlantic invasions of massive Iroquois hordes make strange bedfellows.
...the Byzantine Empire was defended by the Ottomans. Holy crap, that's awesome.
In fact, the Byzantine Empire was defended by the Ottomans (and vice versa) in real history a few times.
The Roman Empire gone, the western golden pillar of civilization annexed but alas, more I grieve for the loss of diplomats!
FEEDBACK
Teurlinx - I think I've nailed all the colonial powers now - oh except Denmark who might just escape.
aldriq - Busy period wasn't it
naggy - So true, just more evidence for all those threads that argue Native Americans are unplayable as this Iroquois game doesn't end in World Conquest.
EUROO7 - Probably, if only I understood what you just said.
demokratickid - You didn't think they'd get away did you?
Reingleif - I don't think Iroquois will ever be anyone's first choice for a World Conquest. I'd like to see unddu try it without his cavalry stacks
Lord Strange - Perhaps I should put you in charge of my search for a custom title
Kami - There's not that much more to come but there are still a few interesting things...
rapidem - I think I'll use that next time I'm in one of those pointless HR exercise things where I have to describe myself.
PrawnStar "Well I have been described as Scourgey as in the Scourge of God"
HR Muppet "I think we'll put that down as needing to work on social skills"
HR Muppet "I think we'll put that down as needing to work on social skills"
MagisterMundi - Unsuccessfully, was their heart in it
Specialist290 - Mainly Iroquois soldiers unless this world is very different.
praxiteles - Shush, you'll upset the Byz fanboys
History reflects human behaviour and motivation. As you rightly point out it's always more complex than first sight would suggest.
Enewald - Yep, no golden pillars so I guess that means no golden arches either
Let's hear it for Iroquois civilisation :rofl:
Chapter Eighty
Caqueta converts – 30/09/1816
Peace with Bohemia – October 1816
Bohemia is reduced to OPM status.
Peace with Milan – November 1816
This is about as cheap a peace deal as Milan could get away with but it saves me a diplomat, which is what really matters.
Peace with the Ottoman Empire – November 1816
This deal reduces the Ottomans to a few provinces in Anatolia, Greece and the Southern Balkans.
Days later Iroquois declares war on Gondwana, who are still guaranteed by the Timurids.
This picture shows why I’m not really talking about the wars, 1.3 million against 5000, they’re hardly Spartans.
Peace with the Golden Horde – 1st December 1816
This is another poor peace deal. However, Solikamsk is gained; one more game goal achieved not too many more to worry about but still too many to be achieved.
All is not lost as…
1st December Iroquois declares war on Ryazan, a Horde vassal. The Horde honours the call the very next day.
February 1817 sees Iroquois declare war on Travancore, a two province minor in Southern India. This is just mopping up, once I’ve overran them they’ll hand over one of their provinces, all their cores and as much cash as they can scrape together.
April 1817 – I accept a peace offer from Mainz of cores and cash – I simply don’t have enough diplomats to annex all the remaining OPMs. A few days later I accept an offer from Travancore for their non capital province.
Iroquois declares war on the Pope – May 1817
Guaranteed by Milan the Papacy is a useful target for grabbing more of Italy. While I’ve generally given up on annexing the minors I will make an exception for Rome.
St Thomas converts – 26th May 1817
Missionaries are still being sent even though my Diplomat Stadtholder is hopeless for conversions (Admin 3).
10th June 1817 Yemen send Iroquois a warning. What? Yemen has neighboured Iroquois for decades and now decides to warn us, bizarre. They are guaranteed by the Ottomans which for various reasons has been the cause of their survival.
Peace with the Golden Horde – August 1817
This reduces Ryazan to an OPM in the event that the Horde doesn’t annex its vassal. I now also have access to the last uncolonised province. The Horde is three possibly four wars from annexation, I can use their guarantee on Tver and I suspect that they’ll be the faction I blow my stability on breaking a truce as they are guaranteed by the Timurids who are one more war after this one from OPM status.
War with Bosnia - October 1817
Bosnia’s Ottoman overlord honours its commitment to its vassal and Yemen joins in as expected. It was at this point I realised that the troops bordering Yemen were actually a rebel control force from the Horn of Africa and might just struggle a bit as the regiments are Line Infantry, obsolete for generations.
Peace with the Papacy – January 1818
The Conquest of Rome – 1st February 1818
Currently I am at war with:
- Milan – 100% Occupied
- Timurid Empire and Gondwana – 100% Occupied
- Ottoman Empire, Bosnia and Yemen – There are two Ottoman provinces left to fall; both are under siege with assaults due to start this very day
Uhuh... world looks kinda green.
With some ugly other colours there and there.
I really wish you would extend the game play...o
With some ugly other colours there and there.
I really wish you would extend the game play...
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maybe a house rule of "never suggesting peace deals" could have slowed down your expansion in the beginning, but it could have spared you the diplomats that would be needed for a complete WC. On the other hand, a complete WC does not mean anything as of now, a game started with a hopeless new world country with the sole goal of survival is now just short of diplomats. This is no less than a WC with Iroquois.
I expect a religious conversion of Rome but it might be too late.
I also expect the colonization of that last Siberian province (I wonder why they put that one in).
It seems like Konstantiniyye will remain in Turkish hands. That's a good one for me even though all the sympath for the american indians.
I expect a religious conversion of Rome but it might be too late.
I also expect the colonization of that last Siberian province (I wonder why they put that one in).
It seems like Konstantiniyye will remain in Turkish hands. That's a good one for me even though all the sympath for the american indians.
Clearly the warning/guarantee system has to be re-worked to prevent abuse. Ironically, I suspect it was stepped up in IN to better protect the AI from expansionist players
Only strong multi-lateral alliances that grow around the BB rogue nation and are maintained until the threat is gone would have helped keeping Iroquois at bay.
Only strong multi-lateral alliances that grow around the BB rogue nation and are maintained until the threat is gone would have helped keeping Iroquois at bay.
You have come far. Well, I guess you survived long enough... To bad most of the other countries didn't.
Man, you must be glad when this AAR is finished, do start a new one though because it was (is) a great read
Clearly the warning/guarantee system has to be re-worked to prevent abuse. Ironically, I suspect it was stepped up in IN to better protect the AI from expansionist players
Only strong multi-lateral alliances that grow around the BB rogue nation and are maintained until the threat is gone would have helped keeping Iroquois at bay.
Or a coordinated warning of the BB nation ... getting 80 warnings on the 1 of january, would sure halt all bar the strongest nations... Another possibility is alliances with a purpose. ie. "Burgundy, Castille And France vows to declare war against Iroquis if one of them is in a war against them..."
And now for the conversion of Rome. And well done with regards to reaching Solikamsk!!
Past a specific size..... I don't think it would have made any differance if everyone declared war on him in one alliance.... It would be like waiting for your turn at anexation...
Hoh I made it before the end! Took me almost a week on multiple occasions to read it all
Will you spare Sweden or will the mighty Iroquois gobble them up as well?
Will you spare Sweden or will the mighty Iroquois gobble them up as well?
