*Whole World Mod* Bug Reports

**spirto** · 13-09-2008 09:22

to reproduce that bug you need to:
1) start up a game
2) save it
3) exit back to main menu
4) go into singleplayer
5) load up your save

it will then automatically crash. Every single time without failure

**MonMarty** · 13-09-2008 11:54

it also works if you load up the save, go back to main menu and load that save again. though i think this sisnt much of a hindrance if you work with the mod often and get into the habit of restarting.

**t0m** · 13-09-2008 13:58

Originally Posted by Haftetavenscrap

MonMarty may have plans regarding this.

Not that I know of.

**gigau** · 13-09-2008 14:47

If i can bring my input... In MEIOU, i recentely had the "crash on very single save reload". After countless hours of search, with the help of the oh so great Scenario Editor, i found the solution : an error in the csv file holding the nation names. This lead to "War of "Hadramautian Aggression", or things like that. Asimple extra " causedthe game to crash.

i have no idea if this it the cause of your crash, but i thought i'd let you know of what i experienced.

Good luck

**MonMarty** · 13-09-2008 15:20

Originally Posted by t0m

Not that I know of.

im conjuring up a plan with the bourbon restoration/ French Republic though i have to see whats gonna become of it.

**t0m** · 13-09-2008 15:24

You could create; 'The Kingdom of France' for before 1789, and then after that, Rev. France and after 1814, 1815, you could use 'France' except it has a Tricolour.

**t0m** · 13-09-2008 17:31

Found another little bug, When Italy Forms you get a core on Moray Firth, so far in the IN versions of the WWM Moray Firth has always had something to do with Italy

**thsmar** · 14-09-2008 00:28

Originally Posted by spirto

to reproduce that bug you need to:
1) start up a game
2) save it
3) exit back to main menu
4) go into singleplayer
5) load up your save

it will then automatically crash. Every single time without failure

That's what I had figured since I had the same results on a few games. However when I tried to reproduce the results in a copy of the mod, clean start, etc. I couldn't make the bug appeared, even via those steps above. I tried multiple countries, multiple time periods. I had encountered what MonMarty mentioned also, and tried that; still nothing; i finally crashed it by bringing my save file from the other copy over. I'll try some things on the csv as Gigau mentioned. I'm just in a troubleshooting mood right now for some reason.

**Haftetavenscrap** · 14-09-2008 02:04

Originally Posted by gigau

If i can bring my input... In MEIOU, i recentely had the "crash on very single save reload". After countless hours of search, with the help of the oh so great Scenario Editor, i found the solution : an error in the csv file holding the nation names. This lead to "War of "Hadramautian Aggression", or things like that. Asimple extra " causedthe game to crash.

i have no idea if this it the cause of your crash, but i thought i'd let you know of what i experienced.

Good luck

Thanks for the tip. I'll take a look.

**orwell** · 14-09-2008 05:29

Doesn't this need an OR = in it, or does it work fine the way it is?

Code:

province_event = {

	id =  20000
	trigger = {
		trade_goods = iron
		trade_goods = grain
		citysize = 10000			
	}

**Haftetavenscrap** · 14-09-2008 06:18

Originally Posted by orwell

Doesn't this need an OR = in it, or does it work fine the way it is?

Code:

province_event = {

	id =  20000
	trigger = {
		trade_goods = iron
		trade_goods = grain
		citysize = 10000			
	}

Yes, that probably should have an OR in it. What event is that? And thanks for noticing!

**orwell** · 14-09-2008 06:21

It's in the new events file. No problem, I was just reading through the file to see what's been added.

**Pinjerro** · 14-09-2008 16:05

Originally Posted by Haftetavenscrap

There's no way to change the flag aside from changing the country tag. MonMarty may have plans regarding this.

to use less tags, you can just make revolutionary France after the february revolution. that is just "recycling" old tags, and makes the game run smoother!

NOTE!!!: everyone is NOT gonna declare war on you because your tag is RFR... they declare war on you, when you get a special tag from an event called the revolutionary tag. Revolutionary France is just a country and everyone will only try to destroy you, when you use that tag.

**MonMarty** · 14-09-2008 17:16

Originally Posted by Pinjerro

to use less tags, you can just make revolutionary France after the february revolution. that is just "recycling" old tags, and makes the game run smoother!

NOTE!!!: everyone is NOT gonna declare war on you because your tag is RFR... they declare war on you, when you get a special tag from an event called the revolutionary tag. Revolutionary France is just a country and everyone will only try to destroy you, when you use that tag.

still there are fundamental diffrences between rev france and the french republic, the flag being one. they both share the tricolore but diffrent colors (the rev flag is much darker) next to the diffrent policy and government.

every france between 1789 and 1870 will be rev france (exlcuding the restoration ofcourse which will be K. of France) everything after 1870 will be the french republic. this is already compact seeing wed otherwise end up with 2 empires, 3 republics, 1 revolutionary state and 2 kingdoms.

i personally was very buggered about the blue fleur de lis flag in the renaissance whilst it was definately blanc fleur de lis. (next to the fact that the white one is much cooler) im gonna be sure to implement this but same as before, medieval and "modern france" as historians call it are fundamentaly very diffrent, as france evolved to one of the most centralised states in europe.

also a certain arguement people seem to use: france revolting from kingdom of france, wonder have you ever seen england revolt from great britain? i myself can say that i have never seen that in all the time that i played eu3. if the countries share the same primary culture and the cores are properly replaced there is no chance of nationalists even if the RR were 30%

**r6mile** · 14-09-2008 19:55

That's not true. I've seen Champagne revolters (which have Cosmopolitaine culture). It's just not common, but it can happen.

**Azog** · 14-09-2008 23:13

I have seen England revolt from Great Britian in IN. But only in the new world so maybe the changes in the 3.1 patch will stop that.

**KingofNorway** · 15-09-2008 13:43

Hello !

Thanks for a great Mod !!
I have the IN-version 3.11

As the title shows - I have now starting problems.Until Yesterday,everything worked fine.Today it wont go further than the starting "paintings" where it shows the Creating maps,borders trees etc.......then the screen goes in black...and windows error message pops up telling me eu3.exe has starting problems....

Can You please help me?

(oh..Yes...I downloaded today the new pretrial of the new update(3.1) from Johan)

Kind Regards

**MonMarty** · 15-09-2008 15:10

Originally Posted by r6mile

That's not true. I've seen Champagne revolters (which have Cosmopolitaine culture). It's just not common, but it can happen.

well then we have to figure out why england almost never revolts from GB and why champagne for example does. but generally speaking in normal conditions, those countries wont revolt (unless you have the tendancy to destroy your nation on purpose) these chances are however neglegible compared to other bugs in the mod.

**Pinjerro** · 15-09-2008 19:32

Originally Posted by MonMarty

still there are fundamental diffrences between rev france and the french republic, the flag being one. they both share the tricolore but diffrent colors (the rev flag is much darker) next to the diffrent policy and government.

every france between 1789 and 1870 will be rev france (exlcuding the restoration ofcourse which will be K. of France) everything after 1870 will be the french republic. this is already compact seeing wed otherwise end up with 2 empires, 3 republics, 1 revolutionary state and 2 kingdoms.

i personally was very buggered about the blue fleur de lis flag in the renaissance whilst it was definately blanc fleur de lis. (next to the fact that the white one is much cooler) im gonna be sure to implement this but same as before, medieval and "modern france" as historians call it are fundamentaly very diffrent, as france evolved to one of the most centralised states in europe.

also a certain arguement people seem to use: france revolting from kingdom of france, wonder have you ever seen england revolt from great britain? i myself can say that i have never seen that in all the time that i played eu3. if the countries share the same primary culture and the cores are properly replaced there is no chance of nationalists even if the RR were 30%

Yes, I know much of the fundamental differences between Revolutionary France and the Republic of France. I love French history!! In fact, I love (nearly) all kinds of history. But from a modders perspective, the many new tags can slow the game down, and WWM adds lots of new tags. So to save the performance of the game, many just say what the heck, and put in something only slightly or non historical. So it was just a proposition to make the game run smoother...

But it's good we have history experts like you

**t0m** · 15-09-2008 19:54

Originally Posted by Pinjerro

Yes, I know much of the fundamental differences between Revolutionary France and the Republic of France. I love French history!! In fact, I love (nearly) all kinds of history. But from a modders perspective, the many new tags can slow the game down, and WWM adds lots of new tags. So to save the performance of the game, many just say what the heck, and put in something only slightly or non historical. So it was just a proposition to make the game run smoother...

But it's good we have history experts like you

Didn't we have this same argument a couple of months ago?

And Martijn isn't a history expert

.

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