The Shawnee/Golden Horde CB issue is almost certainly related to their going over their BB limit.
Both are tribal countries, which means they're likely to get this vanilla modifier:
Code:
large_tribe_bad_mil = {
trigger = {
OR = {
government = tribal_despotism
government = tribal_federation
government = tribal_democracy
}
num_of_cities = 10
NOT = { MIL = 7 }
}
badboy_limit = -20
}
Now, the badboy limit for countries is usually a base of 15 (this varies depending on the difficulty level for the player but remains the same for the AI), plus 1 per monarch DIP. But the -20 that most tribals suffer as soon as they reach 10 provinces - right away for the Golden Horde, or after a brief war for the Shawnee - will lower that considerably.
I see that in 1399 the Golden Horde has DIP 4 and MIL 6, so their BB limit is actually 15 (base) + 4 (DIP) -20 (large tribal without MIL 7) = -1. If you start as them, you'll discover that your reputation is "honorable"...but is also 0 out of a limit of -1. That's right,
minus one. In other words, you start the game over the BB limit, and there's no way for you to get your BB down until your monarch dies and you get one with higher DIP or MIL or you lose enough provinces so that you only have 9. On the plus side, no matter how many BB points you gain, you'll still count as "honorable", because -400% of your limit is still lower than 10%, when your reputation changes to "slightly tarnished".
My suggestion would be to lower the badboy_limit penalty given in this triggered_modifier to, say, -12. Or just ignore it - it's not hurting anybody, and it might help the tribal nations disintegrate.
Originally Posted by dharper
They actually introduced that change primarily for modders, since it makes the addition of new provinces so much simpler.Modding the map is now a breeze compared to how difficult it was in 1.3 - it takes less time and the chance of a crippling error is a lot less. I'm quite happy with the change.
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