*Whole World Mod*

**Puppets** · 30-10-2008 22:09

So here is the spy action to launch an airstrike on a province

Code:

air_strike = {
	cost = 50		
	difficulty = 3		
	prestige = 0
	badboy	= 0 		
	ai_will_do = {
		factor = 1
		modifier = {
			factor = 0
			NOT = { units_in_province = 5 }
		}
                modifier = {
                        factor = 2
                        treasury = 500
                }
                modifier = {
                        { units_in_province = 20 }
                }
	}
	trigger = {
		NOT = { has_province_modifier = "troop_desertions" }
	        any_tech = 75 # or whatever technology at 1914
        }
	effect = {
		add_province_modifier = {
			name = "air_strike"
			duration = 10
		}
	}
}

And the modifier

Code:

 air_strike = {
	attrition = 15
	icon = X #don't know the icons from the top of my head
}

**Haftetavenscrap** · 31-10-2008 01:51

It needs to be somehow limited to players you're at war with...
And I'd make it easier, with more drastic effects, but much more expensive.
And there's still the problem of the spy succeeding and not being discovered...
"Someone's bombing the city!"
"Who?"
"I don't know! Could be anyone!!!"

**Griffin.Gen** · 31-10-2008 02:24

Originally Posted by Haftetavenscrap

It needs to be somehow limited to players you're at war with...
And I'd make it easier, with more drastic effects, but much more expensive.
And there's still the problem of the spy succeeding and not being discovered...
"Someone's bombing the city!"
"Who?"
"I don't know! Could be anyone!!!"

...Stealth Bombing and surprise raids anyone?

**europolis** · 31-10-2008 02:28

Originally Posted by Haftetavenscrap

It needs to be somehow limited to players you're at war with...
And I'd make it easier, with more drastic effects, but much more expensive.
And there's still the problem of the spy succeeding and not being discovered...
"Someone's bombing the city!"
"Who?"
"I don't know! Could be anyone!!!"

its should prob. crumble manpower in there, hit the income, demolish just about everything that the province does, AND increase your BB at least some bit.

bombing people was never 'nice', no matter in what era.

cheers

-interesting thought btw. ^^;

edit: also, ~maybe~ there could be a small chance of destroying and improvement(a building) in the prov. is that even possible?

maybe it could be made on dice rolls, with chance of causing X status, destroying XXX, and the standard ones that it would always bring(like the MP reduction, or income/etc...)

though... its kind of weird that you 'need' a spy for this. cant this be done through events?
it would be complex, but im thinking it might be possible.

**europolis** · 31-10-2008 02:37

Originally Posted by Griffin.Gen

...Stealth Bombing and surprise raids anyone?

yesh... its the ultra secret project europe had in the 191x's and no one ever found out about....

**Griffin.Gen** · 31-10-2008 03:07

Originally Posted by europolis

yesh... its the ultra secret project europe had in the 191x's and no one ever found out about....

That would be funny that the Germans bombed London with Stealth Zeppelins

**Haftetavenscrap** · 31-10-2008 06:38

On an unrelated topic, who thinks WWM deserves it's own subforum? Even MEIOU has one now! And so far as I can tell, WWM has more players than MEIOU.

**MonMarty** · 31-10-2008 08:51

Originally Posted by Haftetavenscrap

On an unrelated topic, who thinks WWM deserves it's own subforum? Even MEIOU has one now! And so far as I can tell, WWM has more players than MEIOU.

we call on every WWM player and fan to serve the cause and do their part in the spamming of the forum so we get our own forum

also arent airstrikes a thing of the second world war? i mean sure there was bombing by small airplanes but that wasnt nearly shown on such a large scale as the second world war, these were usually strategic targets and not cities as a whole.

**The Patrician** · 31-10-2008 09:02

Originally Posted by MonMarty

we call on every WWM player and fan to serve the cause and do their part in the spamming of the forum so we get our own forum

also arent airstrikes a thing of the second world war? i mean sure there was bombing by small airplanes but that wasnt nearly shown on such a large scale as the second world war, these were usually strategic targets and not cities as a whole.

Agreed. WWI dogfights were primarilly about securing airspace to assist artillery in spotting, and to defend artillery from bombers. AFAIK there was greater damage to cities during this period from naval bombardment then from aircraft.

**MonMarty** · 31-10-2008 09:39

in all 557 people died of bombings by german zepelins, and the damage is also quite low, the first bombardement costed 4 lives and 7,700 pounds this seems nearly too miniscule to take into account in the war, there are records that argue that the production of a certain town/city was hampered but seeing as the only ones bombarding urban centres were germans and nearly all targets were british, this almost seems negligible.

this is a very useful function IF we extend the game to after WW2, terror bombing and targeting civilian targets became very important in that timeframe.

**t0m** · 31-10-2008 19:21

Originally Posted by Haftetavenscrap

On an unrelated topic, who thinks WWM deserves it's own subforum? Even MEIOU has one now! And so far as I can tell, WWM has more players than MEIOU.

And I believe that this is very good, this WWM thread is currently the fastest growing thread in the Modding forums (not including MM

) and has a number of other threads which are also very large in comparison to other modding threads.

**Haftetavenscrap** · 31-10-2008 19:30

Originally Posted by t0m

And I believe that this is very good, this WWM thread is currently the fastest growing thread in the Modding forums (not including MM

) and has a number of other threads which are also very large in comparison to other modding threads.

So who do we ask?

**t0m** · 31-10-2008 20:00

Originally Posted by Haftetavenscrap

So who do we ask?

Why the modding forum moderator or Johan. I'm guessing.

**Fijj** · 31-10-2008 21:23

Originally Posted by MonMarty

this is a very useful function IF we extend the game to after WW2, terror bombing and targeting civilian targets became very important in that timeframe.

Forum rules Mon, remember them.

**Killerflood** · 31-10-2008 21:57

Please don't flame, but can you give me an estimate on the arrival of the newest version?

**Haftetavenscrap** · 31-10-2008 22:41

Originally Posted by Killerflood

Please don't flame, but can you give me an estimate on the arrival of the newest version?

This is still unknown, since I'm still quite busy at University. My schedule is unpredictable, but I'm working on it when I can. Sorry that I can't be any more specific. You can expect a lot more progress around Christmas time when classes are out.

**MonMarty** · 31-10-2008 23:11

Originally Posted by Fijj

Forum rules Mon, remember them.

i fail to see what your aiming at here

do you read that i am glorifying civilian cruelty and warcrimes?

well im not, i meant to aim at usefull for the historic/strategic correctness of this timeframe. no one can say that these bombardements werent important for the course of war do not mistake i condemn these things, if anyone feels insulted then i apoligize. However its not like i talk from total ignorance since my hometown including my grandparents felt the power of american artillery and the great city next to us was airraided by germans and later leveled to the ground by American bombers, incidentally causing the same amount of casualties the german bombardement of Rotterdam caused, which made the dutch government surrender (next to the other cities Arnhem, Enschede and Deventer which americans also bombed, investigation on this mysterious american bombardement is still ongoing but inconclusive). Some say the dutch government in exile gave permission, americans insist it was a navigational error and ofcourse then we have conspiracy theories... Needless to say, bombardement was a war tool. sad to see the oldest city in the netherlands wiped off the map... this was however a turning point for the front here, germans retreated away from my hometown as americans moved in and stationed at the 100 year old school (which still stands today but is gonna be demolished in 1 year...) as germans retreated to the bombarded city and. After having helped the civilians rescue victims, tried to blow up the bridge crossing the rhine to stall american advance only to be saved by an unknown american soldier that used his life to protect the bridge

anyway im dragging on in my rant and enough history lesson back on topic, this spy mission should only have impact around 1935 and onwards.

**Fijj** · 01-11-2008 01:46

I thought terror bombing and stuff like that was against the rules.

Bombarding infrastructure is pretty legal though, that should be added into the game.

Just like the Swastika, its pretty damn historical, but its illegal.

**austriavakia** · 02-11-2008 01:11

Is there a blank world map of the mod?

**Haftetavenscrap** · 02-11-2008 03:14

Originally Posted by austriavakia

Is there a blank world map of the mod?

What do you mean?

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