Against all Odds: The British Empire in World War Two

**Atlantic Friend** · 12-04-2009 12:36

Originally Posted by Raaritsgozilla

Battles are not about dying to the last man, they weren't Spartans at Thermopylae for goshs sake. They held as long as they could, then evacuated, like Dunkirk. You are not suggesting Dunkirk was a surrender are you my good man?

I honestly always have had trouble seeing Dunkirk as anything but a rout, and Crete (the whole British Greek campaign actually) as a disaster.

**Raaritsgozilla** · 12-04-2009 12:43

Originally Posted by Atlantic Friend

I honestly always have had trouble seeing Dunkirk as anything but a rout, and Crete (the whole British Greek campaign actually) as a disaster.

trek, I have to answer this just quickly. Then the end of it, I swear.

Dunkirk may not have been a victory, but it wasn't a defeat. As with Crete, it also may not have been a victory, but it did have one small victorious outcome, the German Fallshrimjaeger were so badly mauled that they were never considered for offensive operations again, and were only used as ground troops, apart from small instances. Commonwealth troops therefore destroyed a very effective weapon the Germans had at their disposal.
We could continue this via PM if you like, but otherwise we can agree to disagree

**trekaddict** · 12-04-2009 12:54

As said, would Slim be a good choice for the GoC Far East? Currently he is on my list of candidates, and barring unforseen circumstances ( i.e. him turning out to be a closet communist or something like that ) he will be replacing Percival soon.

**Raaritsgozilla** · 12-04-2009 12:56

Slim would be the only choice for that. He was in charge of the Burma Corps after all

**Lord Strange** · 12-04-2009 18:04

Yes Slim is vital. ITs not like I'm being loyal to him becuase he went to my school.....l.

**Kurt_Steiner** · 12-04-2009 19:33

General Sir William Slim is a good option. I would add to the list, by the way, general sir Montagu Stopford.

**trekaddict** · 13-04-2009 00:46

Good. Slim it is then. The commander of RAF Far East is also already decided. Only the Navy is vacant because not really important for now.

Also, I made this. The approximate front. I have no idead how much ground 30-ish Divisions could actually cover, but blue is the BEF.

18th June 1940. The Germans might try to make a push to the south along the Meuse. If only I knew why.....

**trekaddict** · 13-04-2009 10:18

Also vote for this AAR in the AARland Choice Awards! The King commands you and the Empire depends on you!

**Le Jones** · 13-04-2009 12:41

Originally Posted by Raaritsgozilla

Slim would be the only choice for that. He was in charge of the Burma Corps after all

Whilst Slim is obviously the best choice, is he not at this point in the story far too junior for a command like that?

**trekaddict** · 13-04-2009 12:49

Originally Posted by Le Jones

Whilst Slim is obviously the best choice, is he not at this point in the story far too junior for a command like that?

Probably. But I guess I can put him on the Staff of GOc Far East, where he would quickly rise once Percivals failings become apparent.

**gaiasabre11** · 13-04-2009 13:01

Originally Posted by trekaddict

Probably. But I guess I can put him on the Staff of GOc Far East, where he would quickly rise once Percivals failings become apparent.

Well, I'm sure the "rabbit" Percival can still do something astonishing, right?

**BritishImperial** · 13-04-2009 13:52

thats quite a terrifying bulge further south

**trekaddict** · 13-04-2009 13:59

Originally Posted by BritishImperial

thats quite a terrifying bulge further south

Indeed. I guess the strong BEF is a breakwater (sp?) around which the Axis Armies flow.

**Lord Strange** · 13-04-2009 15:29

Hmmm do I predict a Dunkirk style situation, in which the BEF and allied armies are evacuated from Holand, or possibly even Dunkirk. As the French will fail to hold almost certainly.

**trekaddict** · 13-04-2009 16:04

Originally Posted by Lord Strange

Hmmm do I predict a Dunkirk style situation, in which the BEF and allied armies are evacuated from Holand, or possibly even Dunkirk. As the French will fail to hold almost certainly.

Hmm. That depends. More on that in the next update.

**trekaddict** · 13-04-2009 17:03

Also, the KG-VI Carrier is almost done. Hooray. After that the next project are several smaller ships, fast attack craft and the likes. I will try and construct ships from the keel up.

***Derek Pullem*** · 13-04-2009 17:39

Originally Posted by trekaddict

Also, the KG-VI Carrier is almost done. Hooray. After that the next project are several smaller ships, fast attack craft and the likes. I will try and construct ships from the keel up.

Thought there was a rule never to name a ship after a ruling monarch (or is this naval porn for the future?)

**BritishImperial** · 13-04-2009 18:07

Originally Posted by Derek Pullem

Thought there was a rule never to name a ship after a ruling monarch (or is this naval porn for the future?)

i didnt know that! is that in case it sinks and its kind of a bad omen?

**trekaddict** · 13-04-2009 18:42

Originally Posted by BritishImperial

i didnt know that! is that in case it sinks and its kind of a bad omen?

It's future Naval Porn.

**Le Jones** · 13-04-2009 18:47

Originally Posted by Derek Pullem

Thought there was a rule never to name a ship after a ruling monarch (or is this naval porn for the future?)

I'm quite sure that this is incorrect. There have been loads of examples of this (HMS Victoria being the obvious one). The only reason that KG5 was so named was because his son (the nice one, not the naughty one) didn't want a ship named after him and therefore named it after his father.

In fact, I actually think there was a tradition of naming the first new class of warships in a reign after the new monarch. HMS King Edward VIII and so on...

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