Enewald said:Probably the same amount of 'wtf's as some small western barbaric nation decided to dow the Persian empire in the 330s BC.
At least Alexander had consolidated Greece before DoWing Persia, so strictly speaking it wasn't an OPM
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At least Alexander had consolidated Greece before DoWing Persia, so strictly speaking it wasn't an OPM
Finally, a Castillian Europe... but soon it will be a Castillian world so who cares!
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Vann the Red Sadly there is a difference between being Castilian and being Catholic, but I'm working on it
aldriq Rebels are not a problem. There are several reasons:
High stab
Courthouses
Conversions reduce revolt risk, especially with Pagan provinces
Always taking the financial/prestige hit in place of revolt. Money isn't worth much now and prestige is very easy to regain.
Carinthium SE Asia, funny you should mention that , the next update should clear things up
comagoosie Not quite that fast
Jambor Swedes don't frighten me with machine guns, it's the bizarrely named self assembly furniture I worry about
Enewald I'll try, remind me if I forget
Brandenburg III 256 Inf regiments and 84 Cav - given the tech edge there isn't any real need for more (I haven't raised troops in a century). Going the other way - Ming into Western Europe needs a lot of troops by the 18th Century
Enewald & aldriq Alexander was a pussy, otherwise he would have taken his phalanx into the hills of Central Italy :wacko: Macedon wouldn't have had the manpower to last the pace - look at what happened to Phyrrus and no one argues he was a bad General
robou It already is a Castilian world, some people are simply confused
Vann the Red Sadly there is a difference between being Castilian and being Catholic, but I'm working on it
aldriq Rebels are not a problem. There are several reasons:
High stab
Courthouses
Conversions reduce revolt risk, especially with Pagan provinces
Always taking the financial/prestige hit in place of revolt. Money isn't worth much now and prestige is very easy to regain.
Carinthium SE Asia, funny you should mention that , the next update should clear things up
comagoosie Not quite that fast
Jambor Swedes don't frighten me with machine guns, it's the bizarrely named self assembly furniture I worry about
Enewald I'll try, remind me if I forget
Brandenburg III 256 Inf regiments and 84 Cav - given the tech edge there isn't any real need for more (I haven't raised troops in a century). Going the other way - Ming into Western Europe needs a lot of troops by the 18th Century
Enewald & aldriq Alexander was a pussy, otherwise he would have taken his phalanx into the hills of Central Italy :wacko: Macedon wouldn't have had the manpower to last the pace - look at what happened to Phyrrus and no one argues he was a bad General
robou It already is a Castilian world, some people are simply confused
So you never bother with Artillery? Well i'm not really surprised.PrawnStar said:Brandenburg III 256 Inf regiments and 84 Cav - given the tech edge there isn't any real need for more (I haven't raised troops in a century). Going the other way - Ming into Western Europe needs a lot of troops by the 18th Century
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unddu There's virtually no nationalism in Europe, everyone is Catholic and RR is nearly always 0. I hire mercs if I really need troops fast but normally I just ship units around - they get there in time. There are about 30k troops in Spain, Anatolia and Egypt with a few thousand more in Russia.
Harve I don't use Art because it slows troops down. Manouvre speed is far more important to me because it allows you to destroy enemy units especially timesorted retreating forces.
Beating enemy armies is more important than winning sieges.
unddu There's virtually no nationalism in Europe, everyone is Catholic and RR is nearly always 0. I hire mercs if I really need troops fast but normally I just ship units around - they get there in time. There are about 30k troops in Spain, Anatolia and Egypt with a few thousand more in Russia.
Harve I don't use Art because it slows troops down. Manouvre speed is far more important to me because it allows you to destroy enemy units especially timesorted retreating forces.
Beating enemy armies is more important than winning sieges.
Would it not be wise then to have mobile armies of cavalry to chase the enemy down followed by smaller bands of Infantry and Artillery to get the job of seiging done quicker? Then again, I have never been an expert at EU3
robou - It's quite possible that cavalry shock armies followed by small siege forces would work better than how I do things. Although with later Latin Tech units Infantry do matter more and more.
I'm not very good at a lot of the military stuff.
I'm not very good at a lot of the military stuff.
Update 71
25/06/1693 Bali-Lombok converts
01/07/1693 Castile declares WAR on Chagatai
02/07/1693 Brunei declares WAR on Castile in support of Chagatai
19/07/1693 Hamadan converts – there are no Shia provinces left
01/10/1693 Land 39
11/10/1693 Peace with Brunei
Another border with Ming
25/10/1693 Kelantan converts
08/12/1693 Delhi converts – it isn’t a heavily populated province but the very high tax base (base 17) makes it difficult to convert – even with a level 5 fortress.
07/02/1694 Banjarmasin converts
01/03/1694 Naval 39
25/04/1964 Peace with Chagatai
Manchuria
03/05/1694 Kutch converts
13/05/1694 Oirat Horde accepts annexation
High Central Asia
01/07/1694 Gov’t 39
09/08/1694 Conversion of Dzungaria fails
24/10/1694 Perak converts
10/11/1694 Bithynia converts
07/04/1695 Nagato converts
24/04/1695 Gurgan converts
01/05/1695 Production 40
01/05/1695 Castile declares WAR on Ryukyu
02/05/1695 Ming declares WAR on Castile in support of Ryukyu
Ming has only 65 visible regiments, that’s probably it. Not all border provinces even have units in them!
03/08/1695 Jammu converts
Peace with Ming – 03/10/1695
Another quick and brutal war – although assaults cost me a lot of manpower – about 40K. This is a 94 point peace deal. I’m aiming now for a drive for the coast to leave Ming’s capital isolated and the very high value coastal provinces easy prey.
Checking the advisor pool, I swap my 17 year 1* Theologian for a 42 year 2* Theologian. Hopefully the one star guy will still be around when my current set of advisors start to die (I have three 2* Theologians right now).
03/10/1695 Castile declares WAR on Orissa
04/10/1695 Rajputana declares WAR on Castile in support of Orissa
16/10/1695 Tanna Tuva converts
26/12/1695 Datong converts
01/02/1696 Trade 40
26/03/1696 Conversion of Kii fails
01/05/1696 The new theologian dies, apparently unhappy with the doctrine of salvation through conquest. The 1* guy is reinstated.
10/05/1696 Peace with Rajputana
Rajputana OPM
16/05/1696 Bihar converts (I’m targeting some high difficulty provinces while I have a high admin monarch)
07/08/1696 Sind converts
Peace with Orissa - 16/08/1696
Orissa survives as a two province nation; the war only dragged on over the summer as I chased down and destroyed their last 14 regiment stack.
12/09/1696 Conversion of Konya fails – normal service resumes in Anatolia
22/11/1696 Bersh converts
01/01/1697 Land 40
I’m the smartest guy in the room - Technology 1697
Size matters – Province growth to 1697
Update 71
25/06/1693 Bali-Lombok converts
01/07/1693 Castile declares WAR on Chagatai
02/07/1693 Brunei declares WAR on Castile in support of Chagatai
19/07/1693 Hamadan converts – there are no Shia provinces left
01/10/1693 Land 39
11/10/1693 Peace with Brunei
Another border with Ming
25/10/1693 Kelantan converts
08/12/1693 Delhi converts – it isn’t a heavily populated province but the very high tax base (base 17) makes it difficult to convert – even with a level 5 fortress.
07/02/1694 Banjarmasin converts
01/03/1694 Naval 39
25/04/1964 Peace with Chagatai
Manchuria
03/05/1694 Kutch converts
13/05/1694 Oirat Horde accepts annexation
High Central Asia
01/07/1694 Gov’t 39
09/08/1694 Conversion of Dzungaria fails
24/10/1694 Perak converts
10/11/1694 Bithynia converts
07/04/1695 Nagato converts
24/04/1695 Gurgan converts
01/05/1695 Production 40
01/05/1695 Castile declares WAR on Ryukyu
02/05/1695 Ming declares WAR on Castile in support of Ryukyu
Ming has only 65 visible regiments, that’s probably it. Not all border provinces even have units in them!
03/08/1695 Jammu converts
Peace with Ming – 03/10/1695
Another quick and brutal war – although assaults cost me a lot of manpower – about 40K. This is a 94 point peace deal. I’m aiming now for a drive for the coast to leave Ming’s capital isolated and the very high value coastal provinces easy prey.
Checking the advisor pool, I swap my 17 year 1* Theologian for a 42 year 2* Theologian. Hopefully the one star guy will still be around when my current set of advisors start to die (I have three 2* Theologians right now).
03/10/1695 Castile declares WAR on Orissa
04/10/1695 Rajputana declares WAR on Castile in support of Orissa
16/10/1695 Tanna Tuva converts
26/12/1695 Datong converts
01/02/1696 Trade 40
26/03/1696 Conversion of Kii fails
01/05/1696 The new theologian dies, apparently unhappy with the doctrine of salvation through conquest. The 1* guy is reinstated.
10/05/1696 Peace with Rajputana
Rajputana OPM
16/05/1696 Bihar converts (I’m targeting some high difficulty provinces while I have a high admin monarch)
07/08/1696 Sind converts
Peace with Orissa - 16/08/1696
Orissa survives as a two province nation; the war only dragged on over the summer as I chased down and destroyed their last 14 regiment stack.
12/09/1696 Conversion of Konya fails – normal service resumes in Anatolia
22/11/1696 Bersh converts
01/01/1697 Land 40
I’m the smartest guy in the room - Technology 1697
Size matters – Province growth to 1697
what was going on in the time where you hardly had any growth?
I don't seem to remember you doing nothing
I don't seem to remember you doing nothing
He was taking only a few African provinces and then started Diplo-annexing... But it is only now with that technology chart that I have realized just how few countries are left... you can beat these all before 1821
Seeing all the remaining nations in the world fill less than a page of the ledger is... disturbing
At four provinces every 6-7 years you should be able to absorb Ming completely before 1820.
At four provinces every 6-7 years you should be able to absorb Ming completely before 1820.
Feedback time
Enewald I do have a slight tech edge don't I
comagoosie Slow growth is pre BB wars - robou has it right, the diploannexations and North Africa. The graph shows very clearly where I DA'd England then started conquering.
robou I better beat them before 1821, this is 1.3 the game ends in 1792. I expect only Ming's alliance will survive beyond 1750.
aldriq By DOWing Japan and Ryukyu I hope to take 3-4 provinces every 3-4 years. Ryukyu is a non-annexable vassel, it can't ally with Japan
Sweboy Nearly but there's plenty of time
Next update probably tomorrow night
Enewald I do have a slight tech edge don't I
comagoosie Slow growth is pre BB wars - robou has it right, the diploannexations and North Africa. The graph shows very clearly where I DA'd England then started conquering.
robou I better beat them before 1821, this is 1.3 the game ends in 1792. I expect only Ming's alliance will survive beyond 1750.
aldriq By DOWing Japan and Ryukyu I hope to take 3-4 provinces every 3-4 years. Ryukyu is a non-annexable vassel, it can't ally with Japan
Sweboy Nearly but there's plenty of time
Next update probably tomorrow night
With a century left you should be able to get all of them under your flag^^
To get them all converted? I don't know
To get them all converted? I don't know
unddu Oh the WC is no problem just slow but the conversions...
Originally I thought I'd get to do half the world - I'll be way past that mark when I finish but I don't think I'll get everyone. There aren't all that many Sunni provinces left (~30) and I've already started on everything else so I want to get to three quarters of the world. Or more
If I fall just short of complete conversion I have a horrible feeling I'll try again :wacko:
Originally I thought I'd get to do half the world - I'll be way past that mark when I finish but I don't think I'll get everyone. There aren't all that many Sunni provinces left (~30) and I've already started on everything else so I want to get to three quarters of the world. Or more
If I fall just short of complete conversion I have a horrible feeling I'll try again :wacko:
Update 72
01/01/1697 Castile declares WAR on Vijayanagar
13/02/1697 Karaman converts
29/03/1697 Vijayanagar releases OPM Gondwana in a peace deal to resolve a long if pointless war with Ceylon.
04/05/1697 Gondwana declares WAR on Castile
05/05/1697 Ceylon declares WAR on Castile in support of Gondwana
21/05/1697 Conversion of Moulmein fails
07/06/1697 Japan declares WAR on Castile
08/06/1697 Ming declares WAR on Castile in support of Japan
There’s no sense of panic here, just an appreciation that there could be a lot of shuffling units around.
07/08/1697 Lucknow converts
01/10/1697 Naval 40
02/10/1697 Gharchistan converts
16/11/1697 Gondwana accepts annexation
05/12/1697 Tian Shan converts
28/02/1698 Peace with Vijayanagar
India
Oops - March 1698
28/03/1698 Chengde converts
01/05/1698 Gov’t 40
13/05/1698 Bangala converts
The war is going well in all but one aspect – I’ve burnt all my Infantry in Japan in failed assaults – I can’t take anything from the Japanese at this point and I don’t do white peace when there are things to gain.
04/08/1698 Ahmadabad converts
29/08/1698 Peace with Ceylon, I take Jaffna the northern half of the island.
Peace with Japan - 24/11/1698
Peace with Ming – 27/11/1698
01/12/1698 Castile declares WAR on Brunei
02/12/1698 Chagatai declares WAR on Castile in support of Brunei
29/12/1698 Liaodong converts
27/01/1699 Satsuma converts
01/02/1699 Production 41
29/03/1699 Conversion of Settsu fails
17/05/1699 Chin converts
21/06/1699 Brunei accepts annexation
Peace with Chagatai – 22/06/1699
Chagatai is now an OPM – Only Ming, Japan and Vijayanagar have more than a couple of provinces. Notice the rebel held Vijayanagar province, isolated from any relief force it will soon revolt, either defecting or forming an OPM Timurid Empire.
11/07/1699 Konya converts
Religion in the Eastern Mediterranean
A nice uniform soothing yellow
22/09/1699 Baybaktu converts
01/10/1699 Trade 41
Update 72
01/01/1697 Castile declares WAR on Vijayanagar
13/02/1697 Karaman converts
29/03/1697 Vijayanagar releases OPM Gondwana in a peace deal to resolve a long if pointless war with Ceylon.
04/05/1697 Gondwana declares WAR on Castile
05/05/1697 Ceylon declares WAR on Castile in support of Gondwana
21/05/1697 Conversion of Moulmein fails
07/06/1697 Japan declares WAR on Castile
08/06/1697 Ming declares WAR on Castile in support of Japan
There’s no sense of panic here, just an appreciation that there could be a lot of shuffling units around.
07/08/1697 Lucknow converts
01/10/1697 Naval 40
02/10/1697 Gharchistan converts
16/11/1697 Gondwana accepts annexation
05/12/1697 Tian Shan converts
28/02/1698 Peace with Vijayanagar
India
Oops - March 1698
28/03/1698 Chengde converts
01/05/1698 Gov’t 40
13/05/1698 Bangala converts
The war is going well in all but one aspect – I’ve burnt all my Infantry in Japan in failed assaults – I can’t take anything from the Japanese at this point and I don’t do white peace when there are things to gain.
04/08/1698 Ahmadabad converts
29/08/1698 Peace with Ceylon, I take Jaffna the northern half of the island.
Peace with Japan - 24/11/1698
Peace with Ming – 27/11/1698
01/12/1698 Castile declares WAR on Brunei
02/12/1698 Chagatai declares WAR on Castile in support of Brunei
29/12/1698 Liaodong converts
27/01/1699 Satsuma converts
01/02/1699 Production 41
29/03/1699 Conversion of Settsu fails
17/05/1699 Chin converts
21/06/1699 Brunei accepts annexation
Peace with Chagatai – 22/06/1699
Chagatai is now an OPM – Only Ming, Japan and Vijayanagar have more than a couple of provinces. Notice the rebel held Vijayanagar province, isolated from any relief force it will soon revolt, either defecting or forming an OPM Timurid Empire.
11/07/1699 Konya converts
Religion in the Eastern Mediterranean
A nice uniform soothing yellow
22/09/1699 Baybaktu converts
01/10/1699 Trade 41
