(MOD) Civilization Universalis

**HisMajestyBOB** · 08-05-2008 06:12

I just downloaded it and played around a little. I didn't have too much of a slowdown problem, but my computer's pretty good. I was playing as Korea, allied Manchu (why? I don't know), then had to face a Ming-Wu-Wei coalition that decided to attack Manchu. Note to self, avoid allies until I've built up my colonies.

**Shoobs** · 08-05-2008 21:19

Actually..
In Civ Univ..
I -highly- suggest you get allies. With or without colonies.
Most of my games end early because of massive coalitions against me that I can't fend off w hich leads to much frustration and anger.

Once, as Israel, I had Kurdistan ( The old Assyria ), Sardia ( Babylon ), Hedjaz, Mamluks (Egypt), and the Ottomans all attack me within 3 months of each other...
Then again, Israel has a big giant bullseye on it regadless, but still.
It doesn't help that Israel's starting location was nerfed a great deal.

**Griffin.Gen** · 09-05-2008 00:29

I've checked the map a bit and i got some starting point flaws
Canada starts in a really random place. As most of the countries start in their capitals, Canada should start at Ontario (where Ottawa is) and Quebec should start in Stadacona (where Quebec is)
Besides that its very fun. Good job!

**Haftetavenscrap** · 09-05-2008 02:46

STOP THE PRESS!!!

A error has been found that could cause this mod to crash!!
The error has been fixed and you can download a patch HERE and save yourself a lot of greif later. Sorry for any inconvenience.

The patch also fixes a few other very minor problems:

A typo that caused slave specialization to do nothing
Changed the Roman flag so it isn't Russian anymore
Added some missing North American culture names

Simply put all the files in their respective folders and overwrite the old ones and everything should be fine.

**Haftetavenscrap** · 09-05-2008 02:56

Originally Posted by Griffin.Gen

I've checked the map a bit and i got some starting point flaws
Canada starts in a really random place. As most of the countries start in their capitals, Canada should start at Ontario (where Ottawa is) and Quebec should start in Stadacona (where Quebec is)
Besides that its very fun. Good job!

Some of the starting points are strange for balancing purposes. They have been like this since the original Civilization Universalis, and I didn't change them because bad stuff could happen.

The countries were intentionally spread out so that they would have sufficient room to expand before they collided with their neighbours. You may have noticed that many nations in crowded regions of the world that should be powerful (France, Roman Empire, Carthage) often get squashed. I tried to prevent this be giving people a lot of room.

Also, by putting Canada in Ottawa, no one would live in Northern Canada, and Alaska would probably spread and become too powerful.

The next version of this mod should contain more provinces to give the Romans and some others more breathing room.

**Fijj** · 09-05-2008 03:14

Cool, a new update already.

**Fijj** · 09-05-2008 23:44

BAM.
I found a CTD as Egypt, it just shut off not, sure why.

Code:

Clausewitz Error[id.cpp:76]: Failed to create id 1841 37. Allready exists in game.
Clausewitz Error[id.cpp:76]: Failed to create id 993 38. Allready exists in game.
Clausewitz Error[id.cpp:76]: Failed to create id 1841 37. Allready exists in game.
Clausewitz Error[id.cpp:76]: Failed to create id 1841 37. Allready exists in game.
Clausewitz Error[id.cpp:76]: Failed to create id 1841 37. Allready exists in game.
Clausewitz Error[id.cpp:76]: Failed to create id 993 38. Allready exists in game.
Clausewitz Error[id.cpp:76]: Failed to create id 1955 37. Allready exists in game.
Clausewitz Error[id.cpp:76]: Failed to create id 1095 38. Allready exists in game.
Clausewitz Error[id.cpp:76]: Failed to create id 1841 37. Allready exists in game.
Clausewitz Error[id.cpp:76]: Failed to create id 1841 37. Allready exists in game.
Clausewitz Error[id.cpp:76]: Failed to create id 993 38. Allready exists in game.
Clausewitz Error[id.cpp:76]: Failed to create id 1914 37. Allready exists in game.
Clausewitz Error[id.cpp:76]: Failed to create id 1054 38. Allready exists in game.

And last 2 messages:

Code:

Game[messagehandler.h:224]: 13 January, 1464 Byzantium has started collecting War Taxes.
Game[messagehandler.h:224]: 13 January, 1464 Chagatai declined Sibir's request to join their Military Alliance.

I hope you can fix this. Sorry.

**Haftetavenscrap** · 09-05-2008 23:57

Did this happen after you got the patch?

**Fijj** · 10-05-2008 03:00

I don't know.
I've been playing for a long time now, and nothing happened, so I think its ok.

I'll check in if I get anymore bugs.

**Haftetavenscrap** · 10-05-2008 04:23

Originally Posted by Fijj

I don't know.
I've been playing for a long time now, and nothing happened, so I think its ok.

I'll check in if I get anymore bugs.

Don't scare me like that

**cocodtim** · 10-05-2008 09:41

I got 2 reports:

A bad option for an event:

Second how do the ottomans got there so fast

**Fijj** · 10-05-2008 15:44

I also had a smiliar Ottoman presence in Sweden.

Odd....

**Haftetavenscrap** · 10-05-2008 16:21

Originally Posted by cocodtim

I got 2 reports:

A bad option for an event:
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The reason why that option exists is so that if it asks you to claim someone else's province, you can say no. Of course there's no reason not to claim your own provinces.

Originally Posted by cocodtim

Second how do the ottomans got there so fast

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I'll definitely look into that. Thanks for noticing.

**cocodtim** · 10-05-2008 19:03

well...that is the problem..those weren't my provinces ...those were Thracia's provs gaining my core...

**Haftetavenscrap** · 10-05-2008 23:29

Originally Posted by cocodtim

well...that is the problem..those weren't my provinces ...those were Thracia's provs gaining my core...

So you're saying that the province in question belonged to Thracia, but the relation change is between you and yourself?

**Shoobs** · 10-05-2008 23:58

It was like that in the original mod as well. I think It is just a typo but a very hard one to track.

**Darken** · 11-05-2008 00:21

im not sure how colonization works in this mod but i have a cool idea.

in Civilization 4, the more cities you have the more settlers you can make right? well, in the common/static_modifiers.txt you could set it so that each provinces gives like +0.02 or whaterver to colonists (assuming that global effects work in province section, which i think it would but not sure). This would simulate the Civilization ability of being able to make more colonists depending on how many cities you have. It might favor big nations but I think it would somewhat match the Civ 4 model. anyway, just a idea in case you have not tried this yet.

**Fijj** · 11-05-2008 00:47

I think it is like that Darken. Problem is that you end up having 12 coloniest per year, and no use for them.

**Haftetavenscrap** · 11-05-2008 01:35

Originally Posted by Darken

im not sure how colonization works in this mod but i have a cool idea.

in Civilization 4, the more cities you have the more settlers you can make right? well, in the common/static_modifiers.txt you could set it so that each provinces gives like +0.02 or whaterver to colonists (assuming that global effects work in province section, which i think it would but not sure). This would simulate the Civilization ability of being able to make more colonists depending on how many cities you have. It might favor big nations but I think it would somewhat match the Civ 4 model. anyway, just a idea in case you have not tried this yet.

This is already done with religions. Each religion gives a colonist bonus per province that it's in, but the bonus probably isn't significant enough to notice...

Originally Posted by Fijj

I think it is like that Darken. Problem is that you end up having 12 coloniest per year, and no use for them.

It depends on the country, but yes, the world does fill up fast and then colonists become useless. However, the people who get more colonists early are the ones who do best.

**spl** · 11-05-2008 01:37

Originally Posted by Haftetavenscrap

This is already done with religions. Each religion gives a colonist bonus per province that it's in, but the bonus probably isn't significant enough to notice...

It depends on the country, but yes, the world does fill up fast and then colonists become useless. However, the people who get more colonists early are the ones who do best.

I notice it, it is .05 a province!
Get 10 provinces and get another .5 a year!

But you already get...9 a year so...

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