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    So, a rearmement is now well under way, and also perhaps a desire to spread the socialist paradise to all four corners of the globe?
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    Is trading with the USA absolutely necessary? Their government doesn't look like true friends of the Working Masses... And I'm quite sure there are other countries that have lots of oil to spare.
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    It's only a matter of time that Comrade Reed leads the american proletariat to a glorious revolution!

    Then, America will be a very friendly country, for sure.

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    But it's not that friendly yet... and by tradeing with them, Britain prolong agony of the corrupt and opressive capitalist system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Skrzetuski
    But it's not that friendly yet... and by tradeing with them, Britain prolong agony of the corrupt and opressive capitalist system.
    But wasn't it the late comrade Lenin who once said: "In the end the capitalist countries will be desperate to sell us the rope we will use to hang them."?
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    Yes, it was... but in this universe Lenin's revolution has been totally unsuccessful and the great Russian leader is dead and probably forgotten...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Skrzetuski
    Yes, it was... but in this universe Lenin's revolution has been totally unsuccessful and the great Russian leader is dead and probably forgotten...
    He may be dead but not forgotten, but that doesn't matter, as the quote definitely applies in this situation.
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    It will be interesting what happens once the civil war breaks out in America and how active Britain will be in supporting the Syndicalists there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stnylan
    So, a rearmement is now well under way, and also perhaps a desire to spread the socialist paradise to all four corners of the globe?
    That will be discussed in the upcoming Congress for sure, comrade. Just a litle patience

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Skrzetuski
    Is trading with the USA absolutely necessary? Their government doesn't look like true friends of the Working Masses... And I'm quite sure there are other countries that have lots of oil to spare.
    Actualy, comrade, there aren't. It's a pitty, but all other oil-selling nations are worse then the Americans. What's more, the American goverment, while still beeing a tool of the Capital, seems to mantain their traditional good-will towards britons, and we suspect that's combined with a intent to keep options open on who to befriend if - I mean WHEN - we and the royalists clash.
    And trading helps us mantain good relations with the American workers aswell, who as DarkReborn says, will soon be liberated by comrade Reed for sure.

    (By the way, I forgot to do it earlier but putting Reed there? Brilliant! )

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    What's the deal exactly with Imperial Abyssinia? It has the same exact political ideology and it dosn't seem like much of a "civil war" or anything.
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    Comrade - the Working masses of America shall liberate themselves soon under wise guidance of comrade Reed - but what if the revolution evolves into an open civil war? It would be much harder to maintain oli supply than it is now. Almost impossible, I say, as both sides will try to capture American oil fields... We should find another trade partner - or perhaps more than one - to ensure energetic safety of the Republic.
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    Well certain south american countries are known to posess oil reserves... Maybe we could trade with one of them?
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    OnwAARds Britain!

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    Part VI -The Congress of the Trade Unions



    1st September 1936, an Historic day!


    The first major motions apear on the 5th day, on the subject of Economic Policy. The Maximists end up winning, due to a belief that superior industrial output is the key for Final Victory - and while enemies lie behind the shore, that industrial power must be directed in the most effecient way possible - that means centralization.


    Shortly later, the major motions on Internal Policy are put forward.
    Centralization is indeed the key here, and proceding with devolution would only promote ethnic-based divisions that can only serve to weaken the Revolution. But we couldn't reign in all the power to London either - that would make us as bad as the Kings! The current system is deemed the best, at least for now.


    Not long passes until the motions on how to deal with the defense of the Union are up for discussion. The proposal regarding women is much apreciated, but ultimately decided to be put on hold until they're not so needed as mothers and while they solidify their position as (free) industrial workers. The centralists won again on this subject - wich is ultimatly just a posterior aproval of the policy the government has been persuing since January. The orders for more divisions to be raised that the Congress issues, for exemple, are in reality ignored by the military, already training as many troops as it reasonably can.


    And naturaly, from the military matters the Congress ends up discussing the Foreign Policy of Britain. As the Authonomists risk lynching, the focus is on wether the Union should focus on it's Best Friend and Worst Enemy alone, or should it spread the combat to everywhere it can?
    The policy so far atempted by the Goverment ends up winning - the Union is as safe as farther away from it's shores the Struggle goes on, and as many more nations it can help, trade, and be helped by.


    And so, with a political orientation now called by it's own goverment members as "Radical Socialist", the Union of Britain reaches the last day of it's Trade Union Congress, and the delegates await the speach of our Chairman.

    Britons are shocked and afraid. The rifts created by the political divergences during the Congress are hardly responded to at all (20% dissent going down at 0.4% a day) and while no-one feels bad about having the Congress as ultimate responsable, all knew that couldn't last forever.


    After many days of heated discussion and difficult negotiations, a veredict is reached. Oswald Mosley is chosen as the new Chairman, although he must make some concessions. He's not the best of Industry managers though (-10% IC...)


    On January 1937, the Union stands as such, ready to introduce further political change. Can YOU suggest what the next step should be?

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    Ok, now, first of all:

    Going with the Maximists all the way except for one makes you end up with a Stalin-like would-be Fascist who turns your Radical Socialist goverment into a Social Democrat one? What were you thinking KR comrades?

    I can't even get back at dictatorship with the next slider move - there go my plans to ally Sicily or Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by FallenMorgan
    What's the deal exactly with Imperial Abyssinia? It has the same exact political ideology and it dosn't seem like much of a "civil war" or anything.
    No idea. Even their flags are the same. Silly imperialist hobbies of war I reckon

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Skrzetuski
    Comrade - the Working masses of America shall liberate themselves soon under wise guidance of comrade Reed - but what if the revolution evolves into an open civil war? It would be much harder to maintain oli supply than it is now. Almost impossible, I say, as both sides will try to capture American oil fields... We should find another trade partner - or perhaps more than one - to ensure energetic safety of the Republic.
    Ho, we do trade with others, comrade, worry not. But none offer us such a good deal as the yanks - nor one passing such safe waters. We can better control the Atlantic, even with the Royalist menace, then any route that has to pass Germany or German controled waters. So for now, we hoard.

    Quote Originally Posted by trekaddict
    Well certain south american countries are known to posess oil reserves... Maybe we could trade with one of them?
    apart from the just-revolutionized Brazil, no-one who doesn't discust us as any oil. We'll only buy them anything if we absolutly have to. As I've said, at the moment the American duble policy allows us to hoard, so we will, precisely to make sure we'll never be dependent from any specific source.

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    Well, that's the top of ahistoric things that i've seen in KR, Mosley, who in RT was a hardline fascist (he even had meetings with Hitler, I think), leads a revolutionary leftist british government, that doesn't seems revolutionary anymore.
    It's an uchronia inside another uchronia, what a vicious circle
    This is certainly one of the best parts of the mod.

    Hopefully, maybe there are a couple of events that move your slider towards autocracy, if not, you will have to wait two more slider moves...

    Indeed, this Comerade Mosley, has messed up it all, maybe its time for a purge...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkReborn
    Well, that's the top of ahistoric things that i've seen in KR, Mosley, who in RT was a hardline fascist (he even had meetings with Hitler, I think), leads a revolutionary leftist british governement, that doesn't seems revolutionary anymore.
    It's an uchronia inside another uchronia, what a vicious circle
    This is certainly one of the best parts of the mod.

    Hopefully, maybe there are a couple of events that move your slider towards autocracy, if not, you will have to wait two more slider moves...

    Indeed, this Comerade Mosley, has messed up it all, maybe its time for a purge...

    I kinda understand the him not turning fascist thing - after all it seems in KR's timeline fascism as we know it never developed so all these master oportunists or very radical-but-misguided "men of the masses" remain on the left. It's at least vaguely belivable with the proper backstory.
    But now that they are champions of Democracy (in this game that beeing always Parlamentarism)? That's just wild! Gonna play with it anyhow, and if he botters me too much, I'll just assassinate his minister persona with some foreign power

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    From the looks of it the Union of Britian is like a Socialist Democracy in KR. Syndicalism and Dictatorship don't go hand in hand.

    Just curious, is Syndicalism the same thing as Communism or are there differences? I know "Syndicate" and "Commune" are interchangable somewhat.
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    Interesting that policy moved to the right. That was probably a bug or should be changed to moves to the left. Also, I think a step in the authoritarian direction would be in order as well for the event.
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    All in all I think Britain has some interesting times ahead in its immediate future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenMorgan
    From the looks of it the Union of Britian is like a Socialist Democracy in KR. Syndicalism and Dictatorship don't go hand in hand.

    Just curious, is Syndicalism the same thing as Communism or are there differences? I know "Syndicate" and "Commune" are interchangable somewhat.
    Actualy Syndicalism in KR is a dictatorship form of goverment. And just as good that it is - it means we can enter alliances and declare wars if we must. Now with Oswald we can do neither, even though we're far more interventionists then in 1936.

    Syndicalism is comparable to communism and other socialisms in so much as it aims for the replacement of capitalism with something better, and is strongly rooted in egalitarian views of society. I do assume that in KR it is prety much the revolutionary means that worked, and thus takes the place of real-life bolshevism as a winning strategy for leftists world-round.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHannibal
    Interesting that policy moved to the right. That was probably a bug or should be changed to moves to the left. Also, I think a step in the authoritarian direction would be in order as well for the event.
    Nay, I guess the right movement makes sence. After all he's a Maximist forced to make deals with everyone else - many of those "else" beeing further to the right then himself. 2 notches might be too much though.

    Authoritarian it is, anyhow.
    Quote Originally Posted by stnylan
    All in all I think Britain has some interesting times ahead in its immediate future.
    You sure? I see a year starting with dissent reduction and much dull building 'n researching until we can be Syndicalists again. All that under a -10% IC HoS. Hope you're the right one though.

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