Hasimir Fenring said:Now it's my turn to desagree Concerning Breton, even if I don't speak it, I'm used to reading Breton names each time I go to the street (in the Breton speaking part of Brittany, every roadsign for example is translated in Breton).
Concerning CK, I'm just disappointed with the fact that gallo/french dynasties are badly represented. I just want to find a way to solve that problem. Maybe we could give french culture to the gallo dynasties (I mean, those which come from Rennes, and Nantes).
Concerning purely Breton dynasties, I found a better translation with the help of Breton players:
+"Kerne" is wrong, should be replaced by "ar vro Kerne"
+idem for "Leon", replaced by "ar vro Leon"
+"Porhoet" should be replace by "ar vro Porhoet"
The others 1066 dynasties should be IMO french (representing gallo for some of them):
+"Roazhon" should be replaced by "de Rennes"
+idem for "Penteur" dynasty which is a branch of the "de Rennes" dynasty.
+"Naoned", replaced by "de Nantes".
Otherwise, I found more correct Brittany CoAs, maybe I could post them here and we could discuss about them. It will be great if we could make a more historical CoAs pack for DVIP, don't you think ?
These are the Gallo rendering of:
Roazhon (Rennes) in Gallo is Resnn
Nanoed (Nantes) in Gallo is Naunnt
I have no problem with, and I think Jord agreed, that the Gallo region should be represented by French culture.... but with any generic dynasties poping up there with Gallo sir names.
Two questions/observations:
ar vro is from or of?
If this is so... and the translation of ar vro Kerne is from Cornwall, or of Cornwall... this is a styalistic concern. I do not mind ar vro Kerne.... but prefer simply Kerne myself. In the Welsh language (sister to Breton) the of or from is a given and not spoken and is not necessary. Owain Gwynedd, for example, rather then the absolutely more correct form Owain o Gwynedd, for example.
The "Penteur" dynasty... they may have been a cadet of Rennes (I do not know if this is so in 1066, if it is so we should know the connection between them and Hawise)... but Penteur was their primary title and taking the precident of other dynasties, the dynasty name in this case was taken from the title of the county. In 1066 I prefer Penteur.
Edit: There was not a Nantes dynasty in 1066. Hoel of Cornwall (Hoel Kerne) inherited Nantes from his mother... who was Countess of Nantes and the last of that line.
CoA: Yes... Jord was looking for a more correct CoA for Brittany before.
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