Deus Vult Improvement Pack - Discussion

Rogan: Good point on the university, and the southern Portuguese provinces. I'll see about fixing them. The "university of al-Karaouine" is named after the Tunisian Karaouine, but was indeed founded in Morocco.

Aylo1: thanks for the updates. Will go in.

@Aylo1: Fredesende can not possibly be a daughter of Richard I Duke of Normandy -- he would have been dead 7 years before she was born. Her sister likewise is 20 years younger than Richard's oldest attested child.
I think this is false geneology which was invented to elevate the De Hauteville's rather modest origins.

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I am making Normany Norman again, by the way. I don't like how this culture is not represented at all at a province level in the game, and in reality the Normans had been there since ~800 -- 200 years is long enough for their culture to settle there.
Apulia will not be turned Norman, it was a recent conquest.

Frankish - French is a simple rename. Unfortunately I've now used all culture tags except the templar ones (which are special), norse (which is bugged), and none (also bugged), so there isn't really a free one for the spawned Crusader Kingdoms. You can decide what culture they have by modifying country.csv though -- if you make TEMP latin, the Templar Knights will pop up with Occitan culture. Likewise if you make JERU norman, it will be a Norman state. This only applies if it is spawned by event -- if it founded the normal way, or rebels away (province only) it will use in-game rules to decide culture.

Dutch to Flemish doesn't make sense to me -- Holland and Gelre were not Flemish. Dutch culture is an antachronism in CK (they were Germans), but it serves the purpose of uniting the two parts of the Netherlands: Flanders is in the French area, and the rest is in the HRE ("Germany").
Veldmaarschalk has a good mod with a modified cultural setup: he uses Flemish for Flanders, Frisian for the wider Friesland area, and German for the other Dutch.

As for install order -- first CK, then DV, then the beta, then any mods. I would recommend installing the DVIP after the beta and before any other mods since I directly modify (and wholesale replace) DV files, so any mods should optimally be applied to the DVIP.

7.2 is out in time for the weekend. I might not be available for the next week or so, so I hope this didn't break anything

More Kingdoms Mod update is also up.

You used 1.05.

This mod is for Deus Vult, not CK.

Each time I think it's "complete" I find more things to fix...

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WIP changelog for DVIP 8 update:

Database:
Minor further country.csv revisions to avoid colour clashes
Province Chaldea (704) moved into Armenia region, was in a region of its own
NAFR freed up again, MKHW is a kingdom tag already!
Added db\eu2_country.csv for use with the built-in converter
Added the "of Prussia" and "von Preussen" dynasties to Prussia, since most Prussian provinces only had one dynasty defined
Lettigallish culture is now called Latgalian
Ösel is now part of the creatable duchy of Estonia

Events:
Iberian melting pots now are more limited, so Portugal won't turn Catalan by event any more.
German melting pot now only fires for intended area (Baltic coast), no longer for just any Eastern European province.
Added Norman mercenaries for Byzantium and other Orthodox nations.
Sceptical characters will no longer get the knight order events

1066:
Fes and surrounding provinces have received some more tech because of the university, Kairwan's area weakened some more
Alp Arslan and Michael Doukas are now rivals
Saxony now ruled by Ordulf Billung, not his son Magnus. Magnus only came to power in 1071. Ordulf has gotten illness so he will usually die within a few years.
Mosul is rebellious (would repeatedly war with Seljuks from 1070 to 1085)
Alp Arslan has his muslim first name Muhammad
Malik Shah of Seljuks now has his real first name Jalal
Nizam Al-Mulk now has hist first names Abu Ali
Malik Shah and Nizam are now rivals (Malik would murder Nizam shortly after succeeding Alp Arslan)
Marriage of Yusuf al-Mu'tamin al-Muqtadi and Kera al-Amiri now has proper start date
Revised Iberian setup as proposed by Rogan de Auria:
-Garcia of Galicia is now a martial cleric (educated by a priest)
-Henri de Bourgogne and Alfonso of Leon are friends; Henri's son is in Alfonso's court as a fosterling (would later inherit Portugal as dowry for marrying Alfonso's illegitimate daughter)
-Alfonso of Leon has gotten a stat boost in intrigue
-Duchy of Porto title is now held by Galicia, Portugal is now a series of counties. Nuno Mendes (former D. of Porto) is now rebellious with a claim on Bragança
-Sisnando de Coimbra is now Sisnando Davides
Removed double marriage of Cynfyn of Powys and Angharad Dinefwr
Archbishop Bogumil of Poland has his last name Jankowskie
Gave a number of male lastnameless characters a generic dynasty name
Tatikios the Byzantine general is now an arab, with a "dynasty" name of Tatikid
Revised Baltan setup proposed by Herr Doctor implemented: pagan tribes, cultures, incomes revised
A number of historic courtiers added to Iberia
Transduero region (Castelo Branco, Salamanca, Valladolid) starts out struggling and looted. Was historically unoccupied at the time.
Valladolid is a vassal of Léon, held by Pedro Ansúrez (a few years early)

1187:
Khwarizm is using the MKHW tag again (at kingdom level)
Killed Empress Maud
Cuenca (Santiago) and Calatrava are knight orders

1337:
Cuenca (Santiago), Calatrava, Alcantara are knight orders
Emirate of Almeria is Emirate of Granada again
Livonian Order is now a duchy-level vassal of Teutonic Order, with a few vassals of its own

Fes/Karouan: I'll see to that -- province editing is annoying though

Garcia: education will be changed!
I've given him the ducal title of Porto as well, but that only lead to Porto becoming Leonese or Castillan. There are only two ways I can get the succession of the Porto title to work more-or-less as intended there -- 1) set Galicia to elective law, and 2) leave the situation as-is (Galicia and Porto both duchies, allied).

1) will lead to both Galicia and Porto going to one of the Portuguese counts, who will remain elective.
2) will lead to what is now the case -- Galicia goes to Leon or Castille, Porto becomes (remains) independent.

I strongly prefer 2.

Wow, really?
Then I really need to look into this some more. Would you happen to have a link to a historic writeup on this somewhere? Wiki is worthless.

From a quick look it looks like making Galicia Galicia+Porto is fine then, and adding two the characters you mention.
Nuno's dynasty can be renamed, and I might be able to coax the Burgundians into moving to Porto by making them friends... exiled courtiers often go to their friends.

I can't read Portuguese unfortunately. A little french and italian, but that's it.
I'm looking into the changes now -- do you know if the Burgundian Henri (#6531, born in 1065, so almost 2 at scenario start) is the later Henry the Navigator?

Rogan -- if you can find me some more info on those characters:
Martim Moniz, Xelmiro and sons, Diego Páez, Rodrigo Ovéquiz/Vermudez, Froila de Traba, Pelayo -- I can add them. I need some idea on their stats, traits, dates of birth, and (if known) appearance if I want to add them.

Cool, this helps a lot. I'll see how best to implement them