Veldmaarschalk said:
aylo1 said:Having a little dilemna here with my modding. The Genovan Embriaco's were Lord of Jebail (aka Byblos) which is located btwn CK Tripoli & Beirut. I believe they played a crucial role in latter history of Outremer (war of St.Sabas?). As their province not on the map, where would be a good alternative? So far I've put them up in Safed (C769) but its only a matter of time before someone tracks down the real rulers of that territory. And given its a pretty big family, I don't want to leave them all at Tripoli's court & die off for lack of marriagability.
So any suggestions?
Llywelyn said:Eh... not too keen on reading through all 22 pages to see if this was already addressed and I'm not going to dl the mod until I'm done with my current game, but yes, the current Welsh dynasties are wrong, among other things.
If you haven't already incorporated the material from Drachenfire's Welsh mod, I'll see what I can do about updating it to DV (ie, incorporating the friends and rivals bits, new traits, etc.)
PM me to lemme know.
EDIT: And they are. Nifty.
Llywelyn said:Just started in. Comment and question, in reverse order.
First, Why is the DVIP 1066 scenario file so much smaller (something like half the size) of the vanilla one? Are we missing a whole lot of people they added in?
Second, Gruffydd Aberffraw - courtier #81031 in Dublin, I believe - is missing his claims on the duchy and province of Gwynedd for some reason. Drachen and I might be the only people this matters for, so no rush, but it's always one of the first things I do when I start playing CK again - load up as the Irish, install Gruffydd as a local lord in Dublin or Manaw, and DOW the ap Cynfyns' sorry asses.
Historically, it took him three tries to make it and then he spent nigh on a decade in an English lord's prison, but his family had been installed for something like ten generations. Poster boy for rightful heir with a claim versus the usurper with an army.
Veldmaarschalk said:
Veldmaarschalk said:They were important and pretty independent rulers, so my suggestion would be to make them counts of Beirut. Currently that is Joscelin de Courtenay, but AFAIK he was never count of Beirut. Joscelin was the 2nd man in the kingdom after Guy de Lusignan, so I would make Joscelin count of Tyrus and duke of Galilee
aylo1 said:Not a bad idea, but I'm unsure about giving Joscelin de Courtenay a replacement title. Galilee title belonged to Raymond III of Tripoli with county of Tiberias in the hands of his stepson a Hughe de Saint-Omer (whom I'll add). I'm hoping to save Tyrus for the Grenier dynasty & given de Courtenay & his yet to be created wife something de Milly has daughters who marry minor crusader knights maybe make him a courtier at JERU?
Veldmaarschalk said:Joscelin de Courtenay was married to Agnes de Milly, her sister Stefanie de Milly was married to Lord Guido (or Guy) d'Embracio. Both sisters are cousins of the other Stephanie de Milly, the wife of Renaud de Chatillon.
And since we are on that subjest, Renaud de Chatillon shouldn't be duke of Oultrejordan he was just the lord there because of his marriage to Stephanie, she should be the duchess. Just like Guy de Lusignan who isn't the king of Jerusalem but his wife is the Queen. If you wan't to be consistent of course
Very good point! Yes, as I have read many of the lordships... including the Jerusalem monarchy, produced succession via the female line. As men were often on the front it was the women who represented stability, as they inherited title and land as the men often were killed in action.
Veldmaarschalk said:Well I just pointed it out so that this mod is consistent. I myself find it very bad for gameplay if you replace all those male-rulers with their wifes. Nobody wants to play as Stephanie de Milly (except you maybe ), people who play the 1187 scenario want to play Renaud de Chatillon who as the 'de facto' ruler of Oultrejordan, Stephanie had no say in it what so ever.
Veldmaarschalk said:Well I just pointed it out so that this mod is consistent. I myself find it very bad for gameplay if you replace all those male-rulers with their wifes. Nobody wants to play as Stephanie de Milly (except you maybe ), people who play the 1187 scenario want to play Renaud de Chatillon who as the 'de facto' ruler of Oultrejordan, Stephanie had no say in it what so ever.
3) Bishopric of Mainz should be turned into an Archbishopric to reflect its importance. The Archbishop of Mainz was the Primas Germaniae, the substitute of the Pope north of the Alps, and one of the seven electors of the Holy Roman Emperor, and so his status should be raised accordingly.
Stigand of Cantebury (a courtier of William the Conquerer) should be made bishop of Hampshire, Archbishop of Canterbury, diocese bishop of England,
Veldmaarschalk said:That would mean offering up one of the duchy-tags, and there aren't that many in the game. Also once this 'archbishopric' is destroyed you will then most likely see a 'duchy of Mainz', which doesn't sound good at all.
Veldmaarschalk said:I have two alternatives:
1. Make the bishop of Mainz, the bishop of Cologne and the bishop of Hamburg-Bremen, direct vassals of the king of Germany.
And/or
2. Create a duchy of The Palatinate (Mainz and Pfalz) and then make the bishop of Mainz, 'archbishop of the Palatinate'.
Veldmaarschalk said:Once he has been made a 'landed bishop' he can no longer be a 'diocese bishop'