+ Reply to Thread
Page 30 of 98 FirstFirst ... 5 20 28 29 30 31 32 40 55 80 ... LastLast
Results 581 to 600 of 1947

Thread: Deus Vult Improvement Pack - Discussion

  1. #581
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasimir Fenring
    Djordarkelf, I found some errors concerning county of Belgrade 1066:

    +the count Theodoulos (id20488) have a wrong dynasty name. Instead of Syraneres, he's known as Theodoulos Synadenos (the dynasty already exists, id:101141).

    +Although he's single in CK, IRL he married Euphrosyne Botaneiates (id90034).

    +together they got a daughter called Teophano. She's present in CK She's the wife of Geza Arpady duke of Nytra and her id is 481. In CK Teophano haven't got any parents.

    +otherwise, I haven't find any mention of their son Nikephoros (id90035) present in CK Dunno if you should delete him.

    BTW, when will the next DVIP version be available?
    Good catches!

    I think Jord is awaiting the info on the Gaelic/Scottish updates before release. I am working towards downloading them right now! lol. He can release what ever he has already and get the Scotland set up correction on the following release if he would like.


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  2. #582
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Earl of Buchan

    C041 Buchan


    1187 Éua ingen Garnait (Éva daughter of Garnait) (of the Buchan dynasty) should be Countess of Buchan. She inherited Buchan after her father Garnait, Earl of Buchan died in about 1174. I do not know her age however, recommend age 29ish (16 years old at 1174, plus 13 years to 1187)

    She married Colbán . Possibly a junior member of the Buchan clan, but equally possibly from Fife, as both he and his son Furgas held strong connections there. One does not exclude the other, however. I have no age on him however.

    Add their son Furgas Buchan , born about 1074ish.



    County of Buchan in 1337 seems correct.


    I recommend Buchan as Gaelic in culture for all three scenarios.
    Last edited by Drachenfire; 22-02-2008 at 03:47.


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  3. #583
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Earl of Mar
    C042 - Mar


    1066 - Seems correct, but make the Count Martachus (and his wife Grouch) and his son Gratnarch as Gaelic culture.


    1187 Gilchrist of Mar should be made Gaelic in culture here, and his name changed to the Gaelic Gille Críst of the Mar dynasty. Weather or not we make Mar as Gaelic or Scottish is debateable, as the costal area is English speaking while the interrior is Gaelic speaking.



    1337 Seems correct, however I recommend that Earl Thomas be retaged to an as yet created dynasty known as Gilcrist. His ancestor gave rise to that branch from which Thomas decended.


    *Marr should be Scottish Gaelic in culture for 1066. It is debateable weather it is Scottish Gaelic or Scottish in 1187 (map demonstrates costal area as English speaking, interrior as Gaelic), Scottish in 1337

    *Gilchrist should be one of the Scottish culture names that appear in the Scottish culture zones (Lowlands). Gille Críst as a sirname in the Gaelic cultural zones (Highlands)
    Last edited by Drachenfire; 22-02-2008 at 04:22.


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  4. #584
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Earl of Angus

    C043 - Angus

    1066 seemingly correct... change the of Angus dynasty name to the Gaelic Aonghas for this scenario.

    1187 Change the name of the ruler Gilbride to Gaelic Gille Brigte, and retag him to the Aonghas dynasty name. All of his sons should also be rendered into their Gaelic form, as they are represented on Wikipedia as of Gaelic culture at this time.

    1337 Seems correct, no changes


    Scottish Gaelic culture in all three scenarios (the map demonstrates most of Angus was Gaelic speaking at this time.
    Last edited by Drachenfire; 22-02-2008 at 04:21.


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  5. #585
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Earl of Atholl

    C044 - Atholl

    1066 - Seemingly correct, change dynasty name to new dynasty Dùn Chailleann

    1187 - incorrect set up: Máel Coluim was earl of Atholl between 1153/9 and the 1190s. He married Hextilda, the daughter of Uchtred Waltheof, Anglo-Saxon baron of Tynedale. Their son was Henry of Atholl. Henry is in game currently as Earl of Atholl... but he doesnt seem to have become Earl until the 1190s when his father died. In the game they are tagged to the Dunkeld dynasty... however I feel they are well enough removed from the Royal dynasty to take the name of their primary seat of Atholl. They should be retaged to Atholl. Máel Coluim should be of Gaelic culture while his son be of Scottish culture.


    1337 seemingly correct


    Atholl should be Scottish Gaelic in culture in all scenarios, as the map here demonstrates a mostly Gaelic speaking Atholl for the entire periode.
    Last edited by Drachenfire; 22-02-2008 at 05:13.


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  6. #586
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Earl of Argyll

    C045 - Argyll


    1066 - Correct as far as I can tell.

    1137- Dynasty and culture should be rendered into Gaelic... Mac Dhomhnuill rather then MacDonald.

    1337- Correct, however debatable weather Colin Camebell should be rendered as Gaelic in culture or as Scottish culture. The Camebell clan were very influencial in Gaelic Scotland, which would imply that they were themselves sympathic to the Gaelic cause. If we change him and the dynasty name to Gaelic, it would be Colin Caimbeul.


    Argyll should remain Scottish Gaelic in culture in all scenarios according to this map.


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  7. #587
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Earl of Moray

    C040 - Moray
    Duchy: MARA (double check this though)

    1066- Correct ruler, but his name should be rendered as Máel Snechtai mac Lulaich, and of Gaelic culture. His sister, husband, their children should all have the (Scottish) Gaelic culture. The Loarn dynasty should be Loairn dynasty... more Gaelic version according to Wikipedia as the Cenél Loairn, clan of Loairn.

    1187 - Do not think this is correct. According to Wikipedia Moray was merged with the Scottish Crown between 1147 to 1314. However, there is a Dutch culture William of Moray as Count of Moray in the game. I do not know why this is so, would recommend his removal until we know the reason why. I think I know why, possible ancestor of the Sutherland Clan.

    1337 - correct


    Moray should remain Scottish Gaelic culture through-out all scenarios.
    Last edited by Drachenfire; 22-02-2008 at 12:34.


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  8. #588
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Earl of Galloway

    C050 - Galloway

    1066- I can find no evidence that Galloway was ruled by Maldred of Atholl in 1066. However, if he were, he should be made Gaelic in culture. In 1065 it was ruled by Echmarcach mac Ragnaill, who was killed by his ally Guttorm Gunnhildsson when they were raiding Gwynedd.

    1187- ruled by Lochlann, Lord of Galloway. However he seems to have also been known as Roland. As this map demonstrates that Galloway was split between Gaelic and Inglis speakers... and is demonstrated by the two names of Lochlann.

    1337- Correct

    According to the map, It is debatable weather Galloway should be Gaelic or Inglis in 1187 and 1337, depending on which part of Galloway one looks at.
    Last edited by Drachenfire; 22-02-2008 at 06:48.


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  9. #589
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Earl of Carrick

    C049 - Carrick

    1066- Unknown rulership, taged to the king of Scotland. The Galwegian Gaelic culture should be represented by Gaelic culture

    1187- Correct, Duncan should be Scottish culture.

    1337- Correct, this should be a case of female inheritance here.

    The Galwegian Gaelic culture should be represented by Gaelic culture in 1066, debateable for Scottish in 1187 and 1336.


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  10. #590
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Earl of Strathclyde

    C047 - Strathclyde


    1066- Correct, recently conqured by Máel Coluim III mac Donnchada, King of Scotland. In 1066 it should be of Gaelic culture

    1187 - Uncertin... but aquiesence to what is in place. Scottish culture in 1187

    1337- merged with the Scottish crown.

    Gaelic culture in 1066, Scottish culture in 1187 and 1337


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  11. #591
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Earl of Fife

    C046 - Fife

    1066- Was the seat of the Royal Family of Dùn Chailleann /Dunkeld at Dunfermline/ Dun Phairlin. Fife should be the capital of Scotland in 1066. In 1066 it is of Gaelic culture.

    1187- Fife is listed under Duncan II, Earl of Fife However, Dumfermline remained the capital of Scotland until 1437 when it was moved to Edinburgh. Initially I was torn as to weather or not make Fife the capital in 1187... as there is a clear Earl of Fife. On the other hand... that same earl could simply be represented as a courtier. Considering this... I think we should make Fife the capital in 1187.... make Duncan II as a courtier in the king's court at Dunfermline.

    Title holder and coutiers Scottish culture in 1187.

    1337 - Duncan IV MacDuff, Earl of Fife. However, as it would be another 100 years before Edinburgh would be made the capital... I recommend making Fife again the capital of Scotland this scenario. Make Duncan MacDuff as a courtier in the king's court with a claim on Fife.

    Fife Gaelic culture in 1066, Scottish in 1187 and 1337
    Last edited by Drachenfire; 22-02-2008 at 09:30.


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  12. #592
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Earl of Ross

    C039 - Ross

    1066- no clear information on title holder

    1187- Wiki has Ross merged with the Scottish crown. However, it also has Adam MacHeth as Earl of Ross. I am in favor of keeping them in place, as they dominated Ross until the 12th century. The dynasty should be renamed Mac Áedh rather then MacHeth, and be made Gaelic culture. Adam's son should be given the Gaelic name of Cináed rather then Kenneth.

    1337- Ruled by the Gaelic family Ros (Gaelic for Ross). The correction here is the dynasty name should be Ros, and William should be rendered in the Gaelic Uilleam . Uilleam's wife should also be Gaelic as Màiri Óg MacDomhnaill.


    Ros should be Gaelic in all scenarios.


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  13. #593
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Earl of Sutherland

    C038 - Sutherland

    1066- No clear record of title holder. However, Wiki states
    Sutherland dates from the era of norse rule over much of the Highlands and Islands, especially in the north and west, which was perhaps at its zenith in the early 11th century, when Sigurd the Stout was jarl of Orkney. Suðrland was then land to the south of, or in the south of, Norse Caithness. As a Scottish county, however, Sutherland also includes land which is to the west of the county of Caithness.
    No recommendation as to change in set up here. However, it could be reasoned the region should be of Norse-Gaelic or Norweigan culture.

    1187- Recommend changes: Sutherland Clan 's third chief Hugh de Moravia should be made count of Sutherland, and be made Gaelic culture. Hugh de Moravia (Hugh of Moray) .... possibly be translanted into Gaelic ((Hew?)) Moireibh.

    1337- Hugh de Moravia's grandson William Strathbogie is Count of Sutherland... but he should more correctly be tagged to the de Moravia family. This was a Gaelic family however the sources are written in English... I would favor the Gaelic Uilleam Moireibh (William of Moray)

    Sutherland should be either Gaelic or Norweigan in 1066, but Gaelic in 1187 and 1337.
    Last edited by Drachenfire; 22-02-2008 at 11:12.


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  14. #594
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Western Isles

    C035 - Western Isles


    1066- No changes

    1187- Reginald MacDonald and family should be of Gaelic culture, and the dynasty name should be MacDhomnhaill. Reginald should be rendered as Ragnall mac Somhairlidh of clan MacDhomnhaill.

    His sons are Ruadri, Dhomnhaill, Dubhghall

    **The succession law here should be semi-salic consangunity... as they divided the "kingdom" between each other. Raudri got Argyll, Dhomnhaill got what we call the Western Isles, and I do not see what Dubghall got yet.

    **In the Improvement Pack he should remain as Duke of the Western Isles.... in the More Kingdoms mode he should be King of Mann and the Isles.

    1337- In 1337 Eion should be Gaelic and of the MacDhomnhaill


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  15. #595
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Lothian, Berwick

    1066: No changes .... should be made Anglo-Saxon (Inglis) Culture to represent Northumbrian English

    1187 and 1337: Scottish Culture

    *The capital should be moved from Lothian to Fife for all scenarios.


    Dùn Chailleann / Dunkeld
    Fort of the Caledonii

    *The Royal Family should be rendered as Gaelic... and the dynasty name should be in Gaelic as Dùn Chailleann in 1066. It was not for almost 60 years before David I of Scotland... who suffered from a bad case of Anglophillia, would promote Normanization of Scotland.

    In 1187 the Royal Family in the lowlands should hold the Dunkeld English version of the name... and be of Scottish culture.

    Cathness: Norweigan culture in 1066, Gaelic in 1187 and 1337.
    Last edited by Drachenfire; 22-02-2008 at 12:29.


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  16. #596
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Cultural set ups at scenario starts (based off of this map of Scottish language dominance in 1400)

    1066:

    Gaelic (representing both Scottish, Irish, and Galloweigan Gaelic):


    Ross, Moray, Sutherland, Argyll, Buchan, Mar, Atholl, Angus, Fife, Strathclyde, Galloway,

    Inglis (Anglo-Saxon)

    Lothian, Berwick

    Norweigan:

    The Western Isles, Cathiness, Orkney, Cumberland, Cerrick

    1187

    Gaelic:

    Ross, Moray, Sutherland, Argyll, The Western Isles
    Cathiness, Buchan, Angus

    *possibly Galloway and Cerrick (Depending on how you read the map)

    Scottish:

    Lothian, Berwick, Fife, Strathclyde, Mar, Cumberland

    *possibly Galloway and Cerrick (depending on how you read the map)

    1337

    Same as 1187, but possibly adding to Scottish, depending on how you read the map:

    Galloway, Cerrick, Angus, Buchan, Atholl
    Last edited by Drachenfire; 22-02-2008 at 12:28.


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  17. #597
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    Any cultural event change shifting to Scottish culture should only effect the lowland cultures... excluding the Highlands:

    Ross, Cathiness, Sutherland, Argyll, The Western Isles, and possibly Atholl.


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  18. #598
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    For generic dynasties, as we proposed, will be split between the Highlands and Lowlands.

    The Highlands will have generic dynasty names as rendered in (Scottish) Gaelic. The Lowlands will have generic dynasty names as rendered in Scottish (Anglized).

    With this plan, I shall divide the two like so:

    Gaelic Scotland:
    (Will always get Gaelic rendered generic dynasties)

    35 Western Isles
    36 Orkney
    37 Caithness
    38 Sutherland
    39 Ross
    45 Argyll

    Scots Scotland
    (Will always get the Scottish (Anglizied) generic dynasty names)

    41 Buchan
    42 Mar
    43 Angus
    44 Atholl (I am conflicted with this one)
    46 Fife
    47 Strathclyde
    48 Lothian
    49 Cerrick
    50 Galloway
    51 Berwick


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

  19. #599
    Captain Hasimir Fenring's Avatar
    Crusader Kings IIDeus VultEuropa Universalis 3For The GloryEuropa Universalis III: In Nomine
    EU3 Napoleon's AmbitionEuropa Universalis: RomeRome: Vae Victis

    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Corrinth, Kaitan
    Posts
    476
    good catches Drachenfire !

    Now it's my turn to propose some modifications !

    Recently, I started a game with county of Monteferrato (1066) and I found some weird things:

    Guiglielmo di Montferrato(id7732), heir and son of count Oddone (id7730) is 26 but his mother, Constanza de Savoie (id7731) is 31 I thought it was a simple error in her birthdate... But in fact, there are lot of errors concerning this dynasty:

    +in 1066, count Oddone di Montferrato (id7730) was not married. Moreover, I haven't found any mention of a high "coefficient" of consanguinity. His father didn't marry his sister/cousin AFAIK, he married a "Waza". So I think his inbred trait should be removed.

    +his wife in CK, Constanza de Savoie (id7731) wasn't born yet in 1066 ! IRL she wasn't the daughter of Amadeo I de Savoie (id1178). Her parents were Amadeo II de Savoie (id1184) courtier in county of Savoy and her mother was Jehanne of Geneve (id10080).

    +Oddone's son, Guiglielmo was born after 1066.

    So there is some work for you Djordarkelf:

    1) "delete" Constanza de Savoie (id7731)
    2) "delete" Guiglielmo di Montferrato (id7732)
    3) remove Oddone's inbred trait
    4) although Jehanne of Geneve (id10080) is very young in CK (13 or 14 IIRC), give her her husband Amadeo de Savoie (id1184)
    5) BTW, I think it would be more correct to rename the "de Savoie" dynasty in "di Savoia ". It sounds more italian and then more historical.

    EDIT: new modification. It concerns "of Geneve" dynasty (id100239). It would be more correct to give her his german name: "von Genf"
    Last edited by Hasimir Fenring; 22-02-2008 at 14:09.

  20. #600
    Buckler of Wales Drachenfire's Avatar
    Deus VultEU3 CompleteDivine WindHeir to the Throne

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ocean View, Norfolk, Virginia
    Posts
    2,081
    This list was compiled with information origionally compiled by Ayeshteni (Jehanne's Footstool) for an earlier project he was involved in. In that project, they created all of Scotland as Gaelic. Ayeshteni detailed the specific province each Clan name came from... so there is authinticity here.

    In our project... we are dividing the Gaelic Highlands from the Scottish lowlands. Some of the above names appear in one or another form on either side.

    Special note: Be sure to check for duplicate ids, these ids are currently in the game and in use. I added ADDID to those duplicate generic names.


    Gaelic Scotland:
    (Will always get Gaelic rendered generic dynasties)

    35 Western Isles
    36 Orkney
    37 Caithness
    38 Sutherland
    39 Ross
    45 Argyll
    40 Moray




    Code:
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3100 }
    	name = "MacLeòid"
    	province = { 35 38 39 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3101 }
    	name = " MacDhomhnuill"
    	province = { 35 39 40 45 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3102 }
    	name = "MacDubhSithe"
    	province = { 35 38 39 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3103 }
    	name = "MacNeill"
    	province = { 35 39 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3104 }
    	name = "MacAoidh"
    	province = { 36 37 38 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3105 }
    	name = "MacCoinnich"
    	province = { 38 39 40 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3106 }
    	name = "Mac na Ceardadh"
    	province = { 36 37 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3107 }
    	name = "MacFingon "
    	province = { 38 39 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3108 }
    	name = "MacGrigair"
    	province = { 45 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3109 }
    	name = "MacDhughaill"
    	province = { 45 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3110 }
    	name = "Gunn"
    	province = { 36 37 38 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3111 }
    	name = "Mac an Rothaich"
    	province = { 40 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3112 }
    	name = "MacNeacail"
    	province = { 38 39 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3113 }
    	name = "Ceiteach"
    	province = { 37 38 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3117 }
    	name = "MacPhearsain"
    	province = { 40 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3119 }
    	name = "Friswal"
    	province = { 40 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3127 }
    	name = "MacAmhlaidh"
    	province = { 45 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3128 }
    	name = "Caimbeul"
    	province = { 45 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3129 }
    	name = "Camshron"
    	province = { 40 45 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = ADDID }
    	name = "Grannd"
    	province = { 40 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = ADDID }
    	name = "Stiubhart"
    	province = { 45 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = ADDID }
    	name = "MacLachlainn"
    	province = { 45 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3138 }
    	name = "Craigies"
    	province = { 36 37 }
    }

    Scottish Scotland
    These are Scottish (Anglized) generic dynasty names.

    41 Buchan
    42 Mar
    43 Angus
    44 Atholl
    46 Fife
    47 Strathclyde
    48 Lothian
    49 Carrick
    50 Galloway
    51 Berwick

    Code:
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3114 }
    	name = "MacBean"
    	province = { 41 42 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3115 }
    	name = "MacIntosh"
    	province = { 41 43 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3116 }
    	name = "MacGillivray"
    	province = { 41 44 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = ADDID }
    	name = "MacPherson"
    	province = { 44 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3118 }
    	name = "Barclay"
    	province = { 43 44 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = ADDID}
    	name = "Fraser"
    	province = { 44 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3120 }
    	name = "Ramsay"
    	province = { 48 51 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3121 }
    	name = "MacDuff"
    	province = { 46 48 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3122 }
    	name = "Lindsay"
    	province = { 46 48 51 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3123 }
    	name = "Bruce"
    	province = { 46 48 49 50 51 53 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3124 }
    	name = "Kennedy"
    	province = { 47 49 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3125 }
    	name = "Douglas"
    	province = { 48 49 50 51 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3126 }
    	name = "Ferguson"
    	province = { 49 50 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = ADDID }
    	name = "MacCaulay"
    	province = { 47 49 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = ADDID }
    	name = "Campbell"
    	province = { 45 47 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = ADDID }
    	name = "Cameron"
    	province = { 44 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3130 }
    	name = "Gordon"
    	province = { 41 42 43 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3131 }
    	name = "Skene"
    	province = { 42 43 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3132 }
    	name = "Grant"
    	province = { 41 42 44 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3133 }
    	name = "Wallace"
    	province = { 47 49 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3134 }
    	name = "Stewart"
    	province = { 47 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3135 }
    	name = "MacLachlan"
    	province = { 45 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3136 }
    	name = "Baird"
    	province = { 48 49 51 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3137 }
    	name = "Oliphant"
    	province = { 44 46 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3139 }
    	name = "Livingstone"
    	province = { 48 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3140 }
    	name = "Forbes"
    	province = { 41 42 43 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3141 }
    	name = "Armstrong"
    	province = { 50 53 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3142 }
    	name = "Johnston"
    	province = { 50 53 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3143 }
    	name = "MacInnes"
    	province = { 50 53 }
    }
    dynasty = {
    	id = { type = 12 id = 3145 }
    	name = "Strathbogie"
    	province = { 44 }
    }
    }
    Last edited by Drachenfire; 22-02-2008 at 14:09.


    Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad
    True I am to my country


    Damsels Not In Distress mode (allows female inheritance in CK I) & Crusader Queens, Cool-toxic's CK Clone
    Jordarkelf's DV Improvement Pack, Looking for a Good Starting County? Gwynedd FTW!
    Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality during the middle ages discussion thread.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 30 of 98 FirstFirst ... 5 20 28 29 30 31 32 40 55 80 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts