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hey
i wanted to ask if there should be Saarland as a country.
The Saarland was unhinged from germany by frace after the war. france intended to make the saarland a part of france, but the citicens of saarland voted to be reunited with germany. the ballot was in october 1955 and the reunion with germany in 1957

i'm not sure whether it's worth the effort.
on the one hand in 1955 the saarland was not part of germany and i could write an eventchain uniting both countrys.
on the other hand the ballot was before the start of the game, so it doesn't really change anything.

so if someone has to much time on his hand and there are enough tags left...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saar_%28protectorate%29

but if you decide against it, i will find another way to model it
 
Rym said:
hey
i wanted to ask if there should be Saarland as a country.
The Saarland was unhinged from germany by frace after the war. france intended to make the saarland a part of france, but the citicens of saarland voted to be reunited with germany. the ballot was in october 1955 and the reunion with germany in 1957

i'm not sure whether it's worth the effort.
on the one hand in 1955 the saarland was not part of germany and i could write an eventchain uniting both countrys.
on the other hand the ballot was before the start of the game, so it doesn't really change anything.

so if someone has to much time on his hand and there are enough tags left...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saar_%28protectorate%29

but if you decide against it, i will find another way to model it
I think that the country is too small for HOI2 map and it can't be represented in the map unless it's like a small nation, so sadly i must say that no, it's not worth, it would take the whole povince 74 when just needs a small part of it.
 
Thread updated, check the very first post.
 
Hey what do you think that we should do with the armageddon tags????
Code:
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UCH;Republic of China;;;;;;;;;;x
UBO;Bourbon;;;;;;;;;;x
UTC;The Cossacks;;;;;;;;;;x
UGS;Sweden;;;;;;;;;;x
UCS;The Confederates;;;;;;;;;;x
UIC;Indo China;;;;;;;;;;x
UPR;Prussia;;;;;;;;;;x
UER;Empire of Russia;;;;;;;;;;x
UTO;The Ottomans;;;;;;;;;;x
UIR;Indian Republic;;;;;;;;;;x
UTL;The Libertadores;;;;;;;;;;x
UPS;PRRS;;;;;;;;;;x
UES;European Soviets;;;;;;;;;;x
URO;Roma;;;;;;;;;;x
UAP;APR;;;;;;;;;;x
UPE;Republic of Persia;;;;;;;;;;x
 
Zokan said:
Well we could use them for more revolters. Wikipedia has a nice overview of important seccessionist movements around the globe:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession

Yes or we could use the republic of Persia tag (UPE) to create the Persian Islamic Republic (the one of the Ayatolah)
 
Excuse me. We are making an Uber Balkan Mod. But we need socialist shield and flags for east European countries. Could we use yours? If you agree, could you post them here or send me by a PM?
I will mostly appreciate your cooperation.
 
Vladimir II said:
Excuse me. We are making an Uber Balkan Mod. But we need socialist shield and flags for east European countries. Could we use yours? If you agree, could you post them here or send me by a PM?
I will mostly appreciate your cooperation.

Tell me by PM what flags do you need and i will send them to you, but don't expect them until tomorrow.
 
The Great Duck said:
I think hat Vatican should also be included.

Sorry for not answering you earlier but i didn't notice this post.

For the moment i will not include more offmap nations, the Vatican and others like that will be included when it's possible to modify the map.

EDIT: BTW, first post updated.
 
Hi!

I just wondering, about the tags... is the separation of the names with a "," means the country's name in other languages?

Because then I can give you the Hungarian name of Hungary :)

Hungarian People's Republic=Magyar Népköztársaság
Hungarian Republic=Magyar Köztársaság
(Hungary=Magyarország)

And a question: how many tags can be used in HoI?
 
Daemoncool said:
Hi!

I just wondering, about the tags... is the separation of the names with a "," means the country's name in other languages?

Because then I can give you the Hungarian name of Hungary :)

Hungarian People's Republic=Magyar Népköztársaság
Hungarian Republic=Magyar Köztársaság
(Hungary=Magyarország)

Yes here each language is separated by a ";", however to include the names in Hungarian we should translated the whole mod into it, because as we agreed, we are only to use the English names for the standard version (you're free to translate it, just use the penultimate space between ";").

Daemoncool said:
And a question: how many tags can be used in HoI?

It depends from the version, if you have normal HOI2 or Doomsday, you can only have the tags contained in world_names.csv plus U00 until U20 (both included) but, if you have armageddon, you can use the tags U00 until U99 plus the one for the revolters.

EDIT: What about replacing the Arma Roman tag (URO) with a possible monarchist Italy??? having the same flag as vanilla HOI2?
 
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I noticed in the tags that at least 3 tags are used by various incarnations of Spain (SPR, SPA, and a UXX) Not sure why so many are needed. We could probably just use the original two as Spain is nationalist (or equivalent) in this time period and shift to a democracy. The SPR could represent a leftist or commie version.

Also, Central African Federation was created in 1953 and comprised Zimbabwe, Zambia, and Malawi. It collapsed on Dec 31, 1963 when Zambia declared independence. Six months later Malawi was independent of UK. Later Zimbabwe declared independence.

This entity could start as a UK puppet and spin off its constituent parts over the course of a couple of years. This would be just one part of decolonization. Which should be a major theme of this mod and its effects on the Cold War.
 
PanzerWilly said:
I noticed in the tags that at least 3 tags are used by various incarnations of Spain (SPR, SPA, and a UXX) Not sure why so many are needed. We could probably just use the original two as Spain is nationalist (or equivalent) in this time period and shift to a democracy. The SPR could represent a leftist or commie version.

We are not running low on tags so there's no need to start saving on them, there are three possible Spains because the three of them could have been in the game's timeline. Franquist/Nationalist Spain (Right wing dictatorship), Kingdom of Spain, (Democratic/Right wing-Centrist) and republic of Spain, (democratic-Communist /leftist) whose government remained in exile until 1977.

And trust me, after the Franco's death... all paths are possible.

PanzerWilly said:
Also, Central African Federation was created in 1953 and comprised Zimbabwe, Zambia, and Malawi. It collapsed on Dec 31, 1963 when Zambia declared independence. Six months later Malawi was independent of UK. Later Zimbabwe declared independence.

This entity could start as a UK puppet and spin off its constituent parts over the course of a couple of years. This would be just one part of decolonization. Which should be a major theme of this mod and its effects on the Cold War.

Thanks for the date. What do you think about the in-game Malaysia?, it should be part of UK or be an independent state puppeted by UK?

Edit: we are going to need a West Indies federation too.
 
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Updated the list with Federation of West Indies and Rhodesia and Nyasaland.
 
Malaysia should probably be a puppet of UK. Independence (non-puppet) on 31 Aug 1957. But the insurgency continues until 1960 with heavy Brit, Aussie, and NZ involvement. Probably should be a military access for those countries (esp. UK) with a division or two in country for anti-partisan duty. Also, some daily supply to Malaysia from these countries to represent counterinsurgency support.

In 1963, UK cedes North Borneo, Sarawak, and Singapore to Malaysia. These were I believe under direct UK control.
Singapore became independent of Malaysia in 1965.
 
Do you think that it would be worth a tag for the democratic people's rep. of Angola to represent the Civil war there?.

It would require to have minimum the province 1100 or 1101. It wasn't so big in RL, but there WAS an uprising.

What do you think?

PD:Read more about Angola:
http://www.worldstatesmen.org/Angola.html
 
Well,how many free tags do we have now?And what other countries could we add?I would say yes,but then maybe we should also have an tag for the pro-western Angola (since IIRC UNITA that rules the DPRA is the pro-PRC faction,MPLA is pro-Soviet,while FNLA is pro-western).Also,now that we have dropped the idea to make the provinces for micronations like Vatican,will we make it (but I don't see any importance for Andorra,San Marino or Monaco)?