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    I think that has something to do with the travel of Dante. Read something of him for medival philosophy, still need to find time for the whole book.
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    comagoosie: that's actually the times and dates that Dante and Virgil traversed through Hell in the Poem . It's only a coincidence that some of the dates coincided with the story XD

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    I'm still confused as to the armor...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColossusCrusher
    I'm still confused as to the armor...
    Oh ? what's confusing about it ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by General_BT
    I like the Dante graphic... things make alot more sense now.
    Alwasy trying to help

    demokratickid: thank you , sir XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by canonized
    comagoosie: that's actually the times and dates that Dante and Virgil traversed through Hell in the Poem . It's only a coincidence that some of the dates coincided with the story XD
    But also will the times be the same. For example: At the end of the chart it says 7:30 pm and 7:30 am, so in timelines will it take 12 hours? It doesn't seem like the adventurers have 12 hours to spare.
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    hmm, what kind of armour IS that?

    We know they have a U-boat, so I'd assume their tech isn't so much more advanced than our current levels, and such armour looks particularly useless unless they were specifically created to stop ancient weaponry.

    I'd assume carbon fibers given the colours.
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    What's it from? That's my confusion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by comagoosie
    But also will the times be the same. For example: At the end of the chart it says 7:30 pm and 7:30 am, so in timelines will it take 12 hours? It doesn't seem like the adventurers have 12 hours to spare.
    Haha well , the times are definitely different , yes . Mostly because the Hell they're going through isn't the same as the labyrinth our heroes are going through . Have to factor in the times of rest and what not which Dante did not have .

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    Those soldiers look awesome...too bad they're nazi's. I also liked the addition of the map of Dante's Inferno. Can't wait for the next update!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eber
    Those soldiers look awesome...too bad they're nazi's. I also liked the addition of the map of Dante's Inferno. Can't wait for the next update!
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    TheHyphenated1: From a strictly gameplay perspective, Germany allows the player to "play to win" while remaining in-character historically.* While I might prefer the United States as a sentimental favorite, it would provide a very different gaming experience.* From a literary perspective, I've always found Nazi Germany to be at the heart of the greatest drama the world has ever seen -- World War II.* I've sought to capture that sweeping drama, and present it convincingly from the inside out.* Combined with the element of alternate history, I felt that Germany's story could be the most compelling of any nation in the game.

    canonized: Speaking of drama , you certainly have impressed upon your readers not only the historical significance of your writing but also the intricate interaction between such high figures including Hitler himself . How did you prepare and ready yourself for creating such roles ?

    TheHyphenated1: I based my character studies on the sum of the books and television that I've absorbed about these figures.* Then, I sifted through those (often conflicting) viewpoints to come closest, in my own estimation, to the truth.* I then combine the general character information with specific research into the sorts of details that really give life to the scenes.* I try not to hit readers over the head with these sorts of details, but rather have them mentioned in passing to lend overall atmosphere to the writing.* For example, in the prologue Dr. Morell mentions Mechnikov.* In that scene, he would have historically almost certainly dropped the name of Ilya Ilyich Mechnikov (a renowned Russian biologist whom he had worked with), but to belabor the point with readers would ruin it.****

    canonized: here's what i asked: Aside from the hierarchy of various countries and the 'major players' so to speak , you've also spent some time examining the minor plots and almost-nobodies who become significant assets to the plot and cause a dramatic tension . Tell us a little bit about why you chose to work that into your story ?

    TheHyphenated1: Well, it's something that really came to me when watching Ken Burns' documentary The War.* I saw that even though he was presenting this sweeping and impersonal story, by approaching it through immediate, personal experiences, he reached audiences in a way that all previous documentaries had not.* As applies to Weltkriegschaft, characters like Johann Mahler allow me to provide a sense of the experiences of a single soldier -- valuable perspective which tends to get lost in all the macroscopic shuffling of armies.* Also, as I stated in my Character Writer of the Week speech, I feel the major players like Hitler and Canaris can best be appreciated through the eyes of smaller characters.* Also, the resistance figures (Albert Loessner, Fr. Martin Kappel, etc.) give me the opportunity to portray a facet of German opinion that is usually drowned out by the crimes of National Socialism.*

    canonized: Aside from these perspectives , you also add your own twist to the historical timelines , doing some actions either differently or at a different time which affects the flow of not only the game but also of the historical process by which it unfolds . Tell us a little bit about the key points you decided to deviate from and why ?

    TheHyphenated1: Really there is a single point of deviation, and that is the attack on the Berghof on New Year's Eve, 1935.* From, that you have a ripple effect of the trauma of the assassination attempt and the relief at having survived it as leading Hitler to conceive a strategic grab for Belgium four years early.* At present that seems to have backfired, but the death of Dr. Morell in the attack has left Hitler considerably more reasonable than he was historically, and in a better position to bounce back from reversals.* There are dozens if not hundreds of smaller deviations already, but they all stem from that single point of divergence.* As to the "why", seeing that this is an AAR forum, this particular alternate history is the one that best lent itself to the game and the story I'm trying to tell with it.

    canonized: Considering you're a new writer , could you tell us perhaps some of the biggest challenges of writing this opus of yours and some of your greatest triumphs ?

    TheHyphenated1: Being rather intent on historical accuracy, I've sometimes had a hard time figuring out how to make something plausibly "work", but so far I've always managed in the end.* I would say the other principal challenge is simply making things accessible to readers.* Being that Weltkriegschaft is essentially a novel in novelette style, the prose is far denser than many people are used to, which I'm afraid may scare off some potential readers.* With that in mind, I try to keep the action moving forward, keep the updates of manageable size and keep them coming about every other day.* Also, the fact that it is "yet another Germany AAR" may subject it to a certain prejudice, but I think that's usually overcome as soon as people start reading.* On the whole, the readers have responded very positively, which gives me the incentive to go full steam ahead! As to triumphs, I would say the first battle scene sticks out in my mind.* I had gone through eighteen installments of political maneuvering, war planning and skullduggery, and advanced only 25 days of AAR time.* Then in one fell swoop, the floodgates opened as the assault-pioneers of Sturmabteilung Brauer fought a desperate marathon battle to capture the strongest fortress in the world.* Heady stuff, as you can imagine.

    canonized: Indeed your work has gotten pretty lengthy ! Especially as a new writer , this is a marvelous achievement ! Without giving too much away could you give your readers a little preview of the future ?

    TheHyphenated1: Thank you!* Alright, here are a few teasers.* 1) In the not-too-distant future, Fr. Martin Kappel will leave Germany on a desperate mission. 2) The LZ 129 Hindenburg shall make an appearance carrying a national hero of sorts.*** 3) The title of Chapter III is The Lion's Den.* 4) Jumping way ahead, the title of Chapter X is Downfall.*

    canonized*(6:45:33*PM): and lastly from this section , could you tell us any future AAR plans you'd have ? for any other game perhaps ?

    TheHyphenated1: As far as future AAR plans, that's really too soon to say.* Weltkriegschaft will take years, and after that I'll have to see what strikes my fancy.* Gosh, by that time I'm sure there will be a few new Paradox games out that we haven't even heard of yet!* One thing I can say with a good deal of certainty, is that I probably won't be writing another HoI2 AAR after Weltkriegschaft.

    canonized: And that’s all for our programme today ! We’d like to thank TheHyphenated1 for being on the show and we’d also like to thank the audience for tuning in once again ! Please stop by the thread during the week to find out who will be on the chopping block next and we all hope you have a good evening ! That’s all for You’ve Been Canonized this time , see you next time , and in the meantime , stay tuned for more Timelines: Fair , Balanced , and Unafraid !
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