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    English Patriot: Good so far XD now for the essay XD

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    Grubnessul: Now there's a very interesting interpretation !! I hadn't thought of that but it's very well written , Grubby XD . haha , to be expected from environment loving anti-commercialized Europeans har har har . But you guys are missing the most obvious thing . I'll see if someone else can figure this essay out before I give it away XD
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    All this talk of cocaine and heroin, it's because it's 420 today isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elorei
    All this talk of cocaine and heroin, it's because it's 420 today isn't it?
    Or there is something that Canonized wants to tell us, but doesn't really dare to reveal so he just gives little hints in the direction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elorei
    All this talk of cocaine and heroin, it's because it's 420 today isn't it?
    I would rather think that since today is sunday we need to get all the sins off our chest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elorei
    All this talk of cocaine and heroin, it's because it's 420 today isn't it?
    ROFL totally did not intend that but that's hilarious !

    Grubnessul: oh pish posh ! Nothing like that , old bean XD

    comagoosie: Haha , yes , we should try our best instead XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elorei
    All this talk of cocaine and heroin, it's because it's 420 today isn't it?
    Its 420? I should celebrate!

    *breaks out champagne*

    Oh wait...
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    Quote Originally Posted by General_BT
    Its 420? I should celebrate!

    *breaks out champagne*

    Oh wait...
    Haha , I'm just really kind of pleased it happened at such a coincidental time XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by canonized
    Haha , I'm just really kind of pleased it happened at such a coincidental time XD
    Coincidence? I think not!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eber
    Coincidence? I think not!

    Just kidding.
    Haha , as much as I wish I was that much of a genius , I'm afraid not XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by canonized

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    A: The Author , while adapting Timelines chapters to correspond to the various circles of Dante's Hell , can easily apply what Dante saw as failings of his native Florence to the failings of his modern society . In light of the chapter on the Gluttons , Explain how the author of Timelines corresponds Dante's sins with those of the world he lives and what it says about the nature of the sin of gluttony . Is it necessarily the overuse of food ? What architectural instances in the text can you say to back up your answer ?

    B: Explain in as much detail as you can the contrapasso of the Neutrals , the Lustful , and the Gluttons .

    C: Explain the significance of the scenes concerning Arturo and José and specifically how it relates to the thematic elements in both the journey underground and the situations in the 'present' time .
    (skipping all the copy-paste ones )

    A: can't beat Grubby on this one

    B: can't beat Davout on the Dante interpretation

    C:
    Arturo, with all his "Aztec magic", is portrayed as the virtuous pagan (of course, he's not even pagan..), whereas José tends towards indecisiveness.. In a sense, you could say that the 'outside' is the real Limbo ( rather than the 'fortress' the others were resting in). At the same time, they're facing (and/or using) the same sins that Madeleine &c face below.

    Perhaps, considering that they're both actually catholic, you could say that they (or only José, I'm not so sure yet what Arturo's being set up for) are more in parallel with "original sin"/"the fall of man" - José's indecisiveness now (which is "costing" him the trip towards Heaven") is a sort of "first step" towards active sinning in the modern time (Pablo).



    Quote Originally Posted by Elorei
    All this talk of cocaine and heroin, it's because it's 420 today isn't it?
    what's wrong with 420?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForzaA
    (skipping all the copy-paste ones )

    A: can't beat Grubby on this one

    B: can't beat Davout on the Dante interpretation

    C:
    Arturo, with all his "Aztec magic", is portrayed as the virtuous pagan (of course, he's not even pagan..), whereas José tends towards indecisiveness.. In a sense, you could say that the 'outside' is the real Limbo ( rather than the 'fortress' the others were resting in). At the same time, they're facing (and/or using) the same sins that Madeleine &c face below.

    Perhaps, considering that they're both actually catholic, you could say that they (or only José, I'm not so sure yet what Arturo's being set up for) are more in parallel with "original sin"/"the fall of man" - José's indecisiveness now (which is "costing" him the trip towards Heaven") is a sort of "first step" towards active sinning in the modern time (Pablo).





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    Now there's a very interesting character interpretation . I have to say I'm impressed XD . Well calculated . The noble paganism idea might be best displayed , however , by the old man who provided sanctuary to arturo and josé similar or analogous to the Limbo Castle providing sanctuary to our heroes below . But nonetheless your ideas are excellent

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Patriot
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    Well you can be sure it's not something celebrated in our story's timeline , eh ? XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by canonized
    Well you can be sure it's not something celebrated in our story's timeline , eh ? XD
    I see, it must be a Canadian holiday.

    Interesting theory that Arturo is the virtuous pagan (ie Virgil in the poem) and Jose is the Poet who was indecisive at the start of the poem, being at the crossroads of his life. Virgil is the leader in their travels and the Poet is prone to swooning/fainting a lot at the start (including in the Canto on lust) although he toughen ups as they proceed. Also the chaste love back at the homestead could be Beatrice. Or I could just be reading too much into it all.

    As to your question before, I have a very dog eared Penguin paperback edition of the Divine Comedy which I bought for personal pleasure back at university when I was dating a girl whom I thought was my Beatrice. It was translated by Dorothy Sayers which prompted me to start reading her detective novels, as well as Virgil's Aeneid (which led onto the other Augustan authors).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davout
    I see, it must be a Canadian holiday.

    Interesting theory that Arturo is the virtuous pagan (ie Virgil in the poem) and Jose is the Poet who was indecisive at the start of the poem, being at the crossroads of his life. Virgil is the leader in their travels and the Poet is prone to swooning/fainting a lot at the start (including in the Canto on lust) although he toughen ups as they proceed. Also the chaste love back at the homestead could be Beatrice. Or I could just be reading too much into it all.

    As to your question before, I have a very dog eared Penguin paperback edition of the Divine Comedy which I bought for personal pleasure back at university when I was dating a girl whom I thought was my Beatrice. It was translated by Dorothy Sayers which prompted me to start reading her detective novels, as well as Virgil's Aeneid (which led onto the other Augustan authors).
    Ahh so the mystery of Davout continues to unfold , eh ? XD I'm serious , quite the mystery man with your 8 years of being around the forum and so little posts !!

    Sayers is a great writer and translator of Dante and she gives a sterling Catholic reading (as was intended of course XD) as I recall so I highly encourage it ! Ahh your beatrice , eh ? I've had a few of those though .. well ; we shant get into strange or sordid stories quite yet .

    As far as my epics background goes , I've yet to read the Aeneid . Gosh , probably the higher ups at the school are going to make me go for it =(
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    Also aside from reading , if you'd like a companion to the text , Gustave Doré did some really great illustrations for the Commedia



    It's where I get some of the images for the chapter headings and what not . Lots of Artists have depicted scenes from all three of the parts of the Commedia . Some of them include William Blake and Salvador Dali .

    This particular scene on that book cover is when Dante and Virgil are walking amongst the Schismatics and that fellow holding his head like a lantern is Bertrand de Born . Perhaps one of the most chilling scenes in all of the Inferno .
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    Kurt asks me to you ask you about asking yourself about the chance of having an update. I just ask just in case you are not asking yourself. However, if you are asking this very question, just forget my question then and just imagine that I have not asked you what I have asked you in fact.

    In short, update, please?

    Ok, Kurt, now I've asked the question, give me my pizzas back or I'll tell to my Aussie mum that you're cheating her with Olaus Petrus...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt_Steiner
    Dear Canonized

    Peti Niebla writing, just in case.

    Kurt asks me to you ask you about asking yourself about the chance of having an update. I just ask just in case you are not asking yourself. However, if you are asking this very question, just forget my question then and just imagine that I have not asked you what I have asked you in fact.

    In short, update, please?

    Ok, Kurt, now I've asked the question, give me my pizzas back or I'll tell to my Aussie mum that you're cheating her with Olaus Petrus...
    Haha oh Peti ... I still have 5 papers due and 3 finals to get ready for in the next 2 weeks but i'll try to get an update out by this friday

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