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the advisor will probabally will be in some rebellion or something...

(could have sworn I had already posted...)

It amazes me to see the Netherlands do this good... I have a Netherlands AAR and needless to say, I'm a failure.

Keep it up! Soon all of Europe will be directly or indirectly controlled by the Dutch!
 
The Dutch Empire Strikes Back, Part VI

@Quirinus308: I don't know where the advisor is during all this. Although I've a feeling he'll be back in the future.

@Joebthegreat: No, he didn't became involved in any rebellion as of yet, although IIRC he thought about overthrowing the Dutch King. I didn't read your AAR, so I can't comment on that one, but maybe I'll read it after I finished this AAR. The Netherlands have a lot of potential although I'm pretty sure that some other players already would have conquered much more as I did.

@Caudillo: I forgot all about Brunei till I claimed the rest of the island, but then it was too late. Although it will make things, in case of war, much more interesting.

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The Dutch Empire Strikes Back
Part VI


1879, the King looked on the map of the world. During the last 40 years the Dutch had established themselves, once again, as a Great Power. Although this possesion was weak and mere a façade. Although their economy was strong, their military was far too weak to defend an empire which covered four continents. Soon the King was have to make a decision, should or shouldn’t he continue the dream of his precedors, reunite the former Dutch colonies? If the King was going to continue this path he needed drastic economical and military reforms. Not knowing what to do he called upon two of his most important advisors, the War Minister O. Orlog and the Minister of Economical Affairs, G. Eld.

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Dutch Factories as of 1879

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The Dutch Army

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The Dutch Navy

“We need a bigger navy, and army!”O. Orlog said,”At this stage we are very weak and vulnerable. Especially if the Britsh get tired of our colonial ambitions.”
“But we can’t have a bigger navy or army, let alone both, without a better economy. The economy runs smooth now, I admit. However, in case of war, or increasing our armed forces, the economy is hardly sufficient. May I suggest that we expand our railways in continental Netherlands, and South Africa. Perhaps it’s even possible to build some factories? My personal favourites are regular clothes or a paper mill. But even an expansion of the Steel factory could be a wise decision,”G.Eld said to the King.
“G.Eld is right, O.Orlog. First we need to expand our economical base. Of course we also need more tax payers, right?”
“Uhm..well, that could be a way to increase revenue. But how much does occupation cost? If we invade, let’s say, Tibet, the profits of the Tibetan yak milk won’t make occupation worthwile. Does the King have a good alternative?”
“I hate yak milk,” the O.Orlog said. “Although South East Asia might prove to have good resources to make occupation worthwile. Tobacco and Tropical Wood are primary exports of Annam, besides the rice of course. However there are more as just economical reasons for occupation. Atjeh and Bali are within the Dutch spheres of influence and yet they are vulnerable to British invasion. Their occupation is vital for the Dutch East Indies.”
“What have protectorates have to offer?” the King asked.
“Uhm….there is no economical benefit.”
“There is however an important strategic benefit. If the Dutch would persuade the Siamese King to become a Dutch protectorate we can safely cross our troops into British India without the need for a permanent ferry between India and Indonesia. If in addition the other South East Asian states are annexed, we can ‘peacefully’ build Vietnamese, Khmer and Loation divisions and sent those through Siam to India.”
“Thank you for your advice,” the King said. “Oh O.Orlog, I want your recommandations written on my desk, first thing tomorrow.”

The following morning a paper titled: “Dutch Military and Economical Reforms for a bright Orange 20th Century” lay on th Kings desk. The King started to read the paper.

Dutch Military and Economical Reforms for a bright Orange 20th Century

“To be able to threaten the British we need to expand our armed forces, unfortunately it’s almost unaffordable with our current economy. For that reason, we suggest that both the Netherlands as South Africa will be railroaded to the maximum which is allowed. Further it’s of the utmost important that 2 new profitable factories have to be build in Europe, and the steel mill in South Africa expanded.

After this economical process has been completed, construction should start on 2 cavalry divisions, preferably with cuirassiers and 1 artillery division. Our armed forces in South America have to be reorganized. We’ve 48,000 men stationed in Brazil and 24,000 in Suriname. Of the 24,000 men in Suriname 12,000 engineers should be sent to Curaçao to defend the island. The cavalry and infantry which are being trained should be stationed in Suriname for a future offensive against Britain.

Construction on 3 new Cruisers should start to bring Holland in to the top league of naval powers. After these 3 are completed, the Dutch Navy will consist of 4 Man of Wars, 14 frigates, 7 troop ships, 5 Ironclads, 5 cruisers and 3 commerce raiders.

In South Africa our forces are currently sufficient to defend ourself against any British aggression, although for a fullscale offensive against the British we need more troops there.

Now the Dutch East Indies is currently defended by 64,000 troops. That’s far too few to put up a decent defense. The amount of troops needs to be atleast doubled, preferably trippeled to 192,000 troops. Unlike South America or South Africa, we don’t have a land border, with the exception of Brunei, with the Brits. Possible plans for future expansion should be made in the direction of Siam, Annam, Cambodia and Luang Prabang. From here we can draw manpower for a future invasion of British India. The best way to prevent us needing much additional troops for the defense of Dutch Indochina is to make Siam a protectorate. However these conquests shouldn’t take place before there are atleast 128,000 troops in the Dutch East Indies. Probably future expansion of military forces will be after the second economical reform phase.

The second economical reform phase consists of researching steel railroads, and expand our railway system again. Further we’ve to increase the amount of workers in our steel mill in South Africa, which will be expanded again.
After the SERP our armed forces in Indonesia have to be increased by at least 60,000. Those troops are necessary for the invasion of Cambodia and Annam. To launch a succesfull invasion, and scare off any other foreign invasion force, the Dutch Navy requires 3-6 additional transport ships plus another 5 cruisers.”

The King stopped to read. A lot has to be done before the Dutch can even think about challenging the Brits. However, it was clear in the Kings mind that eventually with economical and military expansion the Dutch would eventually be stronger as the British would ever be.
 
The Dutch Empire Strikes Back
Part VII


The next few years, untill 1882, railroads were upgraded to increase the capacity of the lines. Under the supervision of G.Eld the steel mill in South Africa was expanded to accommodate the newly skilled African employers. A lot of money went in this project, and the King wasn’t so pleased to see his treasury go almost empty.

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Dutch Railways in South Africa

While economical reforms were still underway, and the Dutch had a slight debt, the Kings War Minister urged to increase Dutch military interests in South America. In his report O.Orlog adviced the King to train 3 division, 1 artillery and 2 cavalry divisions, and the King followed his advice. However Curaçao was still unguarded, 1 engineer division was sent to there to dug in and wait a possible invasion. Even 3 new cruisers were build to increase the Dutch maritime strength.

In 1882 the new cruisers, together with the 2 older cruisers were sent on their way to Dutch East India. Meanwhile the Dutch tried to persuade the Germans and the French to be more hostile towards Britain.

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Dutch Cruiser Gelderland entering Batavia port

Due to the recent explosive growth of the Dutch armed forces Britain summoned other European powers to discuss the possibility of putting an end to their expansionist goals. Initially the British wanted to resolve in putting diplomatic pressure on the Dutch, however such thing had already been tried without any succes. On the contrary, due to British pressure the recent build-up started in the first place. The conference turned out to be a disaster for Britain. Russia already declared that it won’t do anything to harm Dutch interests at all and in the case of war they would support the Netherlands. Germany and France dissapproved of the explosive Dutch military growth, but they wouldn’t put any pressure what so ever on the Dutch. Austria and Italy, no colonial powers, didn’t really care much what the Dutch did or didn’t do outside of Europe.

Meanwhile in South East Asia, French forces had occupied Saigon, when this news reached Batavia the Governor-General of the Dutch East Indies decided that the time to strike South East Asia was now, before it would fall under French control. In 1884 48,000 troops from South Africa invaded Cambodia. A few months later 44,000 troops from Java invaded South Annam, followed by another 48,000 troops in Central Annam. Slowly the Dutch marched on, neither the Cambodians or the Vietnames could pose a decent threat and Cambodia was finally annexed in late 1885. Annam took longer, but that was more because of the bad infrastructure then of fighting. In September 1886 Annam was finally conquered, only Saigon didn’t fall to the Dutch.

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Annexation of Cambodia

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Dutch East Indies after the war

After the war, it was appearant that the Dutch army, and navy were overstretched. Quickly additional troops and ships were needed. Construction began on 2 new cruisers and 3 new battleships at the Royal Dutch Shipyard in Leeuwarden in 1886.

G.Eld entered the Kings quarters, he had bad news for the King. “Sire, I’m afraid that I’ve some good news and some bad news for you.”
“Bring me the good news first.”
G.Eld stared at the floor. “Our geologists have discovered some valuable oil wells in Indonesia. Our colonial people can now bring us oil, which will bring us great fortune later.”
“That is terrific news! Now the bad news”
“Due to heavy investments in the infrastructure, economy and military, the national treasure is completely empty. As a matter of fact we’ve a hugh debt of almost 100,000 pounds, sire.”
“Don’t blame the investments, it’s you who is responsible for this! Now go!”

Unlike their previous conquest, which the majority of the population seemed to welcome Dutch rule, Vietnam was in chaos. Almost every day an armed uprising took place. Dutch, well actually only Javan and African, soldiers crushed the rebellions without too much problems. Upon reviewing his newly gained territories the King, on advice of the War Minister and the Governer-General of the Dutch East Indies, ordered the training of 6 infantry divisions with 1 artillery and 1 guard brigade to be trained in Cambodia and 2 cavalry divisions were to be trained in Vietnam.

The Governor-General of the Dutch East Indies urged the King to increase the amount of troops stationed on the islands. At the moment there were just 5 divisions guarding the many islands of Indonesia. When new military barracks opened on the islands of Borneo, Java, Sumatra and Sulawesi, almost 100,000 young men joined up to serve in the Dutch Army. At the mean time in Holland the Royal Dutch Shipyard continued to work hard on the ships which were ordered by the King. Just as the last ships were almost completed the King ordered 3 new cruisers and 2 new battleships to be ordered.

Unfortunately the expansion of the military, mostly the navy, took a hugh toll on the Dutch treasury. Already having a hugh debt, the additional costs of construction 5 new ships increased this debt even further up till 150,000 pounds in January 1889. It was clear to the King that now he should focus on repaying the debt and increase the economical power of his country before any further conquests or expansion of the armed forces could take place.

The following years would prove quiet in Western Europe and the Dutch colonies. Dutch rule brought peace and prosperity to the colonies and the homeland. No one was exactly sure how much the state actually gained from the colonies, although in December 1890 it was clear that it wasn’t few. Already 1/3 of the debt had been repaid by this time and if things would continue, soon the Dutch would be without debt and ready to expand further.

Dutch foreign policy continued as it had done the last couple of years, pleasing France, Russia and Germany. This policy was however to gain a severe blow. The Russian were at war with Britain for a few years now, but they managed to held a stalemate in the Afghan border regions, but in 1892 their lines were broken and the British poured into Central Asia and Siberia. The Russians were useless as an ally now, although still powerfull they couldn’t hold the British back.

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British occupation of Central Asia

The Dutch ability to repay their debt so quickly lead to the King rethink his strategy. Instead of sitting and waiting till the debt was repaid he instead would focus on expanding the economy once again. So he issued a decree to expand the lumber mill. With unemployement rising in the big cities even the King knew that just an expansion wasn’t enough. In late 1891 Royal Dutch Oil was founded to provide more jobs for the unemployed. The succes of this strategy appeared when the Dutch had completely repaid their debt in 1895, two years before it was scheduled.

The time had come to further industrialize Holland with Steel Railroads, but that was still some years away. Instead new Vietnamese troops had to be trained for future territorial ambitions in South East Asia. The time to strike the British was coming closer.
 
Ah, so you've chosen to take on the British.

Good Luck...
 
Good AAR you have going here. Fighting the British takes some guts. All the best of luck!
 
@Quirinus308: Thanks! But I already planned to take on the British a long time ago. Luck, strategy and AI stupidity will most certainly be needed to defeat the British.

@stnylan:Thank you for your interest and kind words.
 
The Dutch Empire Strikes Back
Part VIII


February, 1895, the King realized that if the Netherlands wanted to have any chance of winning a war against the British, British India had to be occupied. At the moment there was no way, except with sheer luck, that they could mount an invasion of India. But soon that was too change. The troops stationed in Cambodia were reinforced till 68,000 men, a bit further south in Tekmoa, two Dutch division were reinforced and boarded the transports ships waiting for them.

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Dutch Soldiers in South East Asia

April 4, the 6th Corps arrived near Bangkok. Before the Dutch could even establish a beachhead, the Siamese attacked. During the Battle of Bangkok, which lasted 12 days, the Dutch suffered just 870 losses while the Siamese forces were routed and lost over 6,000 men.
Bangkok still lay under siege when other Dutch troops from Cambodia crossed the border and defeated the small border garrisons without too much trouble.

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Invasion of Bangkok

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Battle of Bangkok

At home situation became stressed, some 2,000 factory workers rose up in arms against the King. Although the King was worried about the situation and if more people planned to cause trouble to the him. He had brought prosperty and power to the Dutch population, yet in comparison to other countries the Dutch had no social reforms and the King still had absolute power, but this was of secundary importance now. First the King had to focus on Siam.

Once the troops from Cambodia had reached Bangkok and created a stable supply line Siam was about to fall. Facing problems at home and the fear of having a border with Britain the King decided that it was wiser to make Siam a Dutch protectorate instead of fully annexing it.

Once the war was finished the King had to find a way to please his people. Lowering the taxes was a possibilty, but that wouldn’t be a lasting way. Social reforms were too expensive and if it was possible the King would avoid debt. Allowing trade unions, giving voting rights could possibly solve the problem. Rumor had it that an old acquintance of the King was behind the armed uprising in Maastricht, were this rumors true, then the King had bigger problems and no reform could possibly solve these problems.

The situation got worse when the population of Rotterdam went into open rebellion. Now the King had no choice but to grant the population some sort of constitution. So he granted voting rights to the wealthy, granted freedom to all parties and allowed all trade unions. After the armed uprising in Rotterdam evidence was found to support the claim that in some way the old advisor was involved. But how did he came to Holland again? Most likely he came with help from the British or Belgians, although the King didn’t exclude the possibilty of German involvement.

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Armed uprising in Rotterdam

Out of the blue France declared colonial war upon the British in 1896. This was a war of which the Dutch could possibly profit, unfortunately the war came too early for the Dutch. Unfortunately 2 years later the French had to help their allies, the Spanish, against the US. Most likely this would mean that the Dutch, once again, lost an important ally.

In the next five years were quiet, with the exception of few armed uprisings in the Netherlands. Railroads were constructed in all industrial areas, but the most important chances came in the military. In 1898 6 divisions were trained in South Africa, of which 4 were sent to South East Asia. Two years later 34,000 Cambodian farmers were conscripted in the Dutch Colonial Army, in Vietnam 68,000 people were drafted. An additional 2 cavalry and 1 infantry division were trained in Holland to defend the country against a possible invasion or armed uprisings. Shortly after the new divisions were placed, an officers academy was founded in Groningen.

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The newly created Officers academy

The initial plans for a future war against Britain were falling apart. Russia had been at war with the UK for more as 20 years now and was on the verge of collapse. France, just recently gotten in to war with the UK, but also in war with the US, was unlikely to come to the assistance of the Dutch, more over the French Navy was reduced to just 1 ship. Germany was the only viable option, the Germans were powerfull, unfortunately their navy was weak and their colonies badly defended. More over the Germans could harm Dutch interests in South Africa. This didn’t prevent the Dutch for signing a defensive alliance with them though, at least now the Dutch would get help against if the British attacked them, and it would prove to be a wise thing to do. It seemed that if the Dutch would fight the British on their terms, they had to do it alone.

Dutch military build up continued for a short while. 4 new Vietnamese infantry division were created, as were 4 cavalry divisions. In 1902 Dutch naval engineers developed 2 kinds of new ships, so called Modern Cruises and Dreadnoughts. Equiped with the latest technology, the Dutch might actually have a slim chance to inflict some serious damagous on the Royal Navy. However, both appeared to be extremely expansive, despite the cost 2 dreadnoughts were constructed in Amsterdam. Upon completion the Dutch were the first to have this kind of ship.

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Dutch Dreadnought on the way to Africa


Time was running short for the King as in the last couple of years his health started to worsen. Seeing that Britain was relatively weak, or at least occupied in Western Africa and China, the King started to think that perhaps the time to strike was now. The most valuable asset of the British was their navy with almost 1,442 ships, they even had acquired a dreadnought, where as the dutch just had 46 ships. On the seas the dutch would be outnumber 31 to 1.

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British and Dutch Navies compared

The British army however, despite the vast amounts of land they held, was relatively small. They outnumbered the Dutch by just 20 infantry divisions and 9 cavalry division. Most likely most of those division would be fighting the French in Africa now. Intelligence reports that even the remaining troops, not engaged in combat, are spread thinly throughout the world. Even where there are larger concentration, most likely the border regions with the US and Russia. But the UK has a large border with Russia, although the Russians had proven to be no match for the British they could releave pressure from Dutch troops in India.

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Britsh and Dutch Armies compared

March 18, 1904, war was declared upon the UK. Would the Dutch prove right, and be capable of defeating the British, or would they be crushed under their boots?​
 
Well, you've spent a long time building up to this moment. Let's hope those plans pay off. Good look against the Brits, especially in India. That's a tough nut to crack.
 
I like it, now is certainly a good time to strike. Only one question, can 2 Dutch dreadnaughts sink the entire Royal Navy? Of course they can.
 
That Royal Navy is obscene! Still, if you can avoid it and bring local ground superiority to bear success could be yours.

Ever thought of invading the British Isles themselves?
 
stnylan said:
Ever thought of invading the British Isles themselves?

i love it whenever someone from the UK suggest invading Britain
 
Quirinus308 said:
i love it whenever someone from the UK suggest invading Britain

:D

But seriously, as I recall from Fire Warms this was pretty much what Renss had to do to secure the peace he wanted. Nothing is more stubborn when it comes to peace deals than the British AI.
 
Invading mainland UK?! :eek: That's crazy! But perhaps that's the only way to secure the peace I want. Only time will tell. Perhaps occupying all their satellites is enough to get a favourable peace?
 
Wannabe Tatar said:
Invading mainland UK?! :eek: That's crazy! But perhaps that's the only way to secure the peace I want. Only time will tell. Perhaps occupying all their satellites is enough to get a favourable peace?
Granted, it was an earlier version, but I had the entirety of British India in my hands and had to give them Crete just to stop fighting. The Brits make no deals. :rolleyes:
 
coz1 said:
Granted, it was an earlier version, but I had the entirety of British India in my hands and had to give them Crete just to stop fighting. The Brits make no deals. :rolleyes:

I doubt anything has changed since then. And with a military score of 1600 (IIRC) compared to a meager 80, I doubt they'll fear the Dutch military. I guess I'll have to prepare for a mainland invasion, but still it will follow after the complete conquest of British Asia (which is roughly India+Afghanistan+Central Asia+Tibet and parts of China)
 
I would have to agree with everyone else, the only way I get a decent deal from Britain is to occupy at least London, and sometimes all of Britain and Ireland
 
well... lots of stuff going on... and Vietnam always seems to hate being ruled... damn rebel scum!

150,000 in debt!? HOLY S***!!!!
 
Quirinus308 said:
I would have to agree with everyone else, the only way I get a decent deal from Britain is to occupy at least London, and sometimes all of Britain and Ireland

I didn't disagree, I just hoped there was a small chance of doing that without actually invading their mainland. Seems that in the end there is no choice but to invade :(

joebthegreat said:
well... lots of stuff going on... and Vietnam always seems to hate being ruled... damn rebel scum!

150,000 in debt!? HOLY S***!!!!

It's weird though, I didn't have a single revolt in former Zulu lands or Brazil, perhaps one or two in the Boer republics, and yet I had like 25+ uprisings in Vietnam :confused:

As for the debt, it was repaid in less as 6 years, the debt was necessary to further increase my economy (mostly) hence income increased.
 
The Dutch Empire Strikes Back
Part IX


March 18, 1904. The fifth Anglo-Dutch war had begon. On various places Dutch troops crossed the Anglo-Dutch border. For logistical reasons the Dutch army command had chosen to first oust the British from Guyana and South Africa.

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Dutch troops on their way to fight the British.

Guyana the first target for occupation. The element of surprise cought this British outpost unguarded and within one month it was completely occupied by the Dutch.

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Guyana occupied by the Dutch

The chief of army of South East Asia decided that with the element of surprise an invasion of Singapore had to be conducted to avoid British reinforcements landing there and use it as a base for operations against the Dutch East Indies. To the surprise of the Dutch troops and their commanding officers they found the Malay peninsular completely unguarded and subsequently it was quickly occupied.
Troops from Cambodia and Vietnam were brought to the Siamese-British border to launch a succesfull invasion of India. But without South Africa completely under Dutch control an invasion of India would be unwise. As soon as South Africa was under Dutch control the invasion of India would commence, and the Dutch East India command knew, this wasn’t going to be easy.

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Invasion of South Africa

South Africa, unlike Guyana and Singapore, wouldn’t be as easily occupied by the Dutch. British troops, defending South Africa against the French, found that they were now being surrounded by 2 sides. 48,000 Dutch troops, with artillery support, approached the British lines from the south, a side which was ill-defended, and after a short battle, which lasted 6 days and costed 4,301 Dutch lives, the British forces were pushed back further into Africa.
Unlike the North, the South was quickly occupied and the Dutch met little resistance of the British. Many Boers in British South Africa greeted the Dutch soldiers as their liberators.

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Dutch Forces greeted by the Boer population

On 15 August, Dutch forces liberated Cape Town from the British. South Africa was almost conquered except for a small region in the north which was defended by 30,000 British soldiers. Realizing those soldiers could pose a threat to the Dutch occupation of South Africa, 48,000 soldiers were ordered to attack their posistions. The battle lasted for almost a month and was one of the bloodiest seen in Dutch recent history. 14,803 soldiers were either dead or wounded and several hundreds were missing in action. Although the Dutch took heavy losses they secured a victory, killing over 11,000 British soldiers and taking another 19,000 as prisoners..

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South Africa in Dutch hands again

In October a British Invasion forces occupied Groningen. The Dutch navy was quickly dispatched to intercept further transport ships. Unfortunately a part of the Royal navy, about 15 cruisers, 10 battleships and some other smaller ships were waiting, and during the Battle of Helgoländer Bucht the Dutch lost 5 cruisers and 5 battleships were sunk. Although the British suffered heavier losses, the Dutch lost 50% of their cruisers and had no battleships left anymore. Local divisions tried to throw the British out, but each time the British repelled their attacks and inflicted heavy losses on the Dutch.

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British Occupation of Groningen

During the last months of 1904 the Dutch started the invasion of British India. Between 240,000 and 300,000 troops crossed the Siamese border. The exact number of soldiers is unknown, since a lot of Burmese and Siamese joined the Dutch ranks in order to throw the British out of their homelands. In January 1905 the Dutch reached Rangoon and liberated it from British hands.

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Dutch forces are advancing in Asia

It seemed that the Dutch were right and that beating Britain in a land war wasn’t as difficult as others had suspected. Although the British Navy, especially with an non-existant German and French navy and a severely weakend Dutch navy, now were indeed rulers of the sea.

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To all who say I need to invade Britain to get peace: :p