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For a human lifetime, Brazil has not known a foreign war. Save for Paraguay, every border of our nation has been agreed to by fair negotiation and open arbitration. Our settlers seeking rubber in the Amazon, our historians seeking truth in word and title deed, our canny diplomats seeking all the advantage we can claim in justice have won our Brazil one border dispute after another ... with almost no bloodshed.
Would that the Great Powers could say the same! The greatest of wars -- and so many lives -- came to an end 17 years ago, ended only by exhaustion, with epidemic influenzia the victor. Triumphant, mankind's newest plague vaunted that "Man hath slain his millions, and I my ten-millions!". And yet, even in the midst of so much death, hope rose that this would be the End of Wars, war-rage blood-purged at last. Brazil, eager as any for that better future so dearly bought, partook fully in the Versailles summit and became one of the founder-members of the League of Nations, dedicated to perpetual peace.
Yet hopes wither as grass in the fire. A greater peril then ever the Kaiser mustered rises; actually four dreadful dangers all at once, for Russia, Italy, Japan, and now Germany have proclaimed themselves revolutionary states, dedicated in their own peculiar ways to spreading Ideology, first through secret turmoil ... and now open force and slaughter.
With our shining creation in tatters, and the non-violence we cherish first ignored, and now mocked, we Brazilians approach the parting of ways. Against the Red Revolution, the Brown, the Bushido, and the Black, we will raise our own standard -- Green-Yellow-Blue forever!. A free nation, we stand by the League of Nations: He who wishes to replace Law with Force will have to break Brazil first!
- HOI2 v1.3b, modified by...
- Stony Road v2.06, by Aragorn et al. (some 2.07 edits)
- Naval Beta, by Dec152000 (A4-B5-C7-change5)
- AI Slider Mod, by LM+
- Axis on Easy, all others on Normal, except for HSR's AI bonuses, 15% extra IC for Japan, and -10% combat penalty for Allies and Comintern.
- CAG naval attack boosted slightly (because I feel that HSR's carriers aren't worth the price otherwise, especially for the AI). CVE CAGs also given more air attack and defence. All tech bonuses to naval attack for naval bombers and CAS removed.
- No "war dissent" events. There are plenty of dissent-boosters as it is.
- Bitter Peace event triggers edited, also shifts Russian sliders (so Stalin doesn't get back into power), boosts relations with Germany (Russia is semi-puppeted).
- All AI-controlled nations of any strength move their domestic sliders more intelligently, focusing in particular on troop quality and production/IC bonuses.
- Various minor fixes and rebalances.
- Some Brazil and Argentina-specific events (described as they come).
Additional game and graphical modifications are described in the following thread:
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this will be interesting....
Nothing more to add really. Good luck with this. I've only tried Brazil once and didn't all to well.Originally Posted by lifeless
did hitler really say that?Never!Brazilians will fight Germany when cobras smoke pipes!
If it's the case, he was Wrong.
"Votre Hugo est fou avec son "Napoléon le petit". Napoléon le petit, c'est celui de la Colonne."
Petite balade dans le Dixie Land: Hurrah for the Bonnie blue flag that bears the Single StAAR!
C'est reparti comme en 14: la VictoAAR en chantant!
Why are you using 1.2, and, good look!!
"How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." - Benjamin Disraeli
"Morality may consist solely in the courage of making a choice." - Leon Blum
LM+ is back, great news.
Interresting nation choice. ( and this time you can't import chinese )
Playing HSR makes a difference - see below.Originally Posted by Mooses
I don't have solid enough sources to be quite sure, but the Brazilians at the time certainly thought he did. That's why this nation's Expeditionary Force used a symbol of a cobra with a lit pipe; at the time, it was as famous as the "desert rat" symbol of 7th Armoured.Originally Posted by MIG-15
That "1.2b" is a typo. I am actually using 1.3b, HSR 2.06, Naval Mod.Originally Posted by GeneralHannible
Thanks! Well, we'll just have to get along without the Chinos. *manfully sucks it up*.Originally Posted by gosam
Comments on the Historical Stony Road Mod:
The Historical Stony Road (HSR) mod is designed to give experienced players a tougher, more accurate and detailed game as Germany from 1936 to 1947. It's also huge fun with other nations! This is the second AAR I've done with Stony Road, and I have to say that I think it's the best mod out there for challenging games with Allied nations (not sure about the USSR). There are two reasons for this:
1. AI-controlled nations get lots of bonuses, which makes it less easy to defeat them. As the player, you can control the amount of bonuses they get (and the penalties you suffer), enabling you to fine-tune game difficulty better.
2. In particular, an AI-controlled Germany does very well and gets terribly powerful indeed. Japan also does well if helped even a little bit. Beating them and their many friends makes for a truly Stony Road.
Other things I really appreciate about Historical Stony Road include the more accurate game setup, the many new events for historical and alternate scenarios, the better balanced air-versus-naval combat, the new brigades, the huge number of game corrections, and the lovely graphics (almost as good as GIP, and in some ways even more to my liking). But the truly neat thing about HSR when you are playing a minor is that factory builds take a bit less time (especially after you research some tech), making it possible to build up national industry quite nicely.
If you haven't played HSR yet, I heartly recommend it. Go to here for the files and forum:
Comments on Dec152000's Naval Beta:
Like all successful mods, HSR has attracted its own sub-mods. Some months ago, Dec152000 introduced his own attempt to model naval production and combat more accurately (and fix a bunch of other stuff). The single biggest advance is that bonuses to units are in fact applied (due to a very clever trick with auto-annexation), so you can finally model the true effect of Radar (and lots else) on existing units and current construction. Also each major power gets adjustments to each class of ship based on their historical experience: for example, Japan gets bonuses for the Long Lance torpedo (the best in the world for most of the war) but penalties for poor damage control and misguided submarine doctrines. Transports are more rigorously treated; the standard type only ferries units from port to port, and you need to develop fairly advanced naval doctrines to allow flexible amphibious maneuvers. The Japanese, Americans, and Europeans each have their own types of carrier air groups and - uniquely in HOI2 - you can correctly model Heavy Carriers, Fleet Carriers, Light Carriers, and Escort Carriers.
As far as I'm concerned, nothing else in the HOI world even comes close to Dec152000's work for naval affairs, an area of the game which pretty well everyone has been soft-shoeing. Unfortunately, development on this mod has been terminated and most of it may never get into official HSR. Among the purposes of this AAR is to get Dec152000's work better known.
The Naval Beta has been packaged by Thork, and is available as a self-extracting add-on to HSR 2.06 at:http://www.stonyroad.de/forum/downlo...?do=file&id=31
You may find the original files and some discussion at:
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Cool title, and nice quote, never heard it before.
I'd load up and have Argentina join the Axis, just to make it interesting.
Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
- Brazil is a Left-Wing Radical dictatorship ruled by Getulio Vargas, an Autocratic Charmer who makes it easier to reduce dissent but seriously hurts industrial production. To understand Vargas, imagine if America's FDR were to be transported at birth to a society with a much weaker constitutional foundation, a largely illiterate population for whom democracy is a game their social superiors reserve to themselves, an excessive focus on cash crops and foreign trade and funding, under constant threat from both the militarist right and (more recently) the urban radical left. FDR, in such an environment, might become something like a Vargas.
Apologetic explanations of Getulio notwithstanding, we plan to usher him out of office as soon as practicable. However, we cannot go democratic just yet; Vargas isn't ready to leave so easily!
Jose de Macedo Soares, foreign minister, is probably the most immediately useful member of the cabinet. Following traditions of Brazilian diplomacy going back to that extraordinary turn of the century historian-diplomat-statesman Jose Maria da Silva Parahos (Jr), Baron of Rio-Branco, he specializes in influencing other nations to our point of view. The Brazilian foreign ministry, known as Itamaraty, will be a valuable national asset in the coming years.
The remainder of our cabinet is unexciting: Our ministers currently do well at reducing consumer good demand, raising supplies, and improving unit defence, but poorly at most other tasks. None can as yet be changed. Domestically, we are highly isolationist, mildly but increasingly hawkish, and fairly free market.
- Brazilian technology is actually fairly acceptable. Our current military knowledge is, of course, weak, but Brazil has some skilled teams that, if we can get industry rolling and blueprints coming in, will allow us to eventually field forces capable of fighting modern wars.
Of these, the IPT and the Organizacao Henrique Lage are the most generally useful. Whether it be industry, electronics, or aircraft, the IPT and the Organizacao Henrique Lage will be our mainstays. For naval design, the Ilha das Cobras is a solid option. Land, sea, and air doctrines have several fine leaders available. We are, however, weak in armour, artillery, and infantry development capability; this will be a continuing handicap.
Brazil immediately begins research on Basic Machine Tools and Census Tabulating Machine.
Industry and manpower:
- Critical to Brazilian national goals is industrial growth. We must devote everything to national self-strengthening, and waste no time in beginning factory construction along the relatively accessible coast.
- Our mobilizeable reserves, in contrast, are fairly substantial. After mothballing some obsolete divisions and ships, Brazil starts with 404 manpower. After our +1 hawk move, and with just the first agriculture tech developed, we get 0.34 per day. For a middling power in 1936 these sorts of figures are cause for joy.
Foreign Affairs and Trade:
Jose Soares' Itamaraty undertakes a major initiative: Joining the Allies. During January and February, we set up numerous small trade agreements with the United Kingdom, and so develop a solid working understanding essential for larger discussions. Our authoritarian government makes it more difficult to cozy up with the democracies, but the solution -- becoming a democracy, which Brazil can do with one slider move -- will, because of our high isolationism, render us incapable of allying with anyone. So we must retain our Radical Leftist government for the time being.
Of all nations, the United States of America is the only one willing to grant Brazil any preference in trade, and will be a vital source of resources and finance. We can offer substantial rare materials in exchange for the energy, metal, and hard currency we lack.
- After the latest defence reductions imposed by the extremely difficult economic situation during this, the era of the Great Depression, ...
... Brazilian armed forces stand at two WW1 battleships (and ten escorts), two transports (and five convoys), one half-strength biplane flotilla, two militia units, and one professional infantry division commanded by our best Army commander: Mascarenhas de Morais. Orders go out to cancel all planned promotions; we want our Mj. Generals and Rear Admirals to stay at that rank until further notice.
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- Terms of trade for materials are poor, but not desperate, yet we almost run out of money before the Americans show some pity and allow us 1 money for 2 supplies (26% chance).
- HSR adjustments and house rules, which reduce certain player abuses.
- Some of the many start-up events for airforces and navies.
- As we learn about naval bombers, small groups of special reconnaissance planes also become available. These planes have very low combat capacity, but great survivability and spotting. As a house rule, Brazil may only get one recon wing, not two.
- After almost a month spent killing off the Great Depression dissent, Brazil begins construction of four factories. We have a ways to go ... but have now fairly begun.
- An important part of an industrial program is to determine where one stands compared to other Powers.
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very nice update! i guess everyone likes CAGs...
Those naval events look excellent, but the thread you posted is not working for me.(as of right now, bandwidth exceeded) Is there anywhere else to learn about this naval mod?
Great start! (as usual )
Victoria I hotfix
AARgentina , a Victoria short status report - 1836 to 1920 (Completed)
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The Defender of Power and Development or: How I learned to stop worrying and love the Kremlin - The Soviet Union, A Hearts of Iron: Arsenal of Democracy AAR - 1936 to 1956 (Completed)
Excellent overview of the IC's of the world.
I'll be following.
My spambot broke, now I have to write everything myself.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and go well with ketchup.
Workers of the world, igni-* err... unite!
So they do. The AI builds ships with the correct size of CAG, while humans are given instructions on which ships can carry what size (the historical carrier builds come pre-loaded, which does make things easier to remember).Originally Posted by lifeless
To my knowledge, there is not. I hope that the site will be back up early next month.Originally Posted by AOK. 11
Thanks, elbasto and GrimReaper!
- We schmooze madly with anyone in Britain who cares about cheap rubber and their morning coffee: with six bilateral trade deals active, relations are improving by more than one per day. Across the Atlantic, Brazilian financiers score a major coup as the USA ceases to stockpile supplies and thus increases her desire for them. Eager to support their navy with somebody else's supplies, the Americans prove willing (after several attempts) to ship hard currency at a ratio of almost one to one. The ever-friendly diplomats of Itamaraty gleefully boost their Wine-and-Dine budget.
- German diplomats spend their good money on improving relations with us, and we decide to encourage this practice in the most effective possible way. Against considerable odds, Germany's Constantin von Neurath is persuaded to ship us twice as many supplies for hard currency. Rumour has it that a troop of Brazilian exotic dancers (Brazilian women are the most beautiful in the world, and anyone who disagrees hasn't seen enough of us!) were instrumental in the decision. Hopefully, Hitler won't go bourgeois prude on us...
- Back to America, and all the news is good.
1936, March 28th:
- After squeezing every last bit of good will possible in the marketplace, Brazilian diplomats start cuddling up to British politicians and opinion-makers. $86 goes to kick off a "we love Brazil" campaign in London, and canceling our unfavourable trade deals costs a hefty $91. We keep an eye peeled for sources of gold other than the USA: A major house rule is that we cannot suck away too much money from any one nation because they will raise domestic spending to satisfy us, thus throwing their entire economy out of whack. Doing that to the USA would be a Bad Idea for us in any case...
1936, Spring - Summer:
- Relations with the United Kingdom rise rapidly as one well-funded fiesta follows another. Britons, weary of endless grey fog and brown smog, start dreaming of sapphire coasts, emerald jungles, and brilliant golden sunshine. Brazil is such a temptress...
1936, May 6th:
- The Organizacao Henrique Lage develops "Basic Machine Tools" and smoothly carries on with the Improved form of this industrial art. Many claim that we should not be wasting precious time and money on such state-of-the-art (1937) knowledge, but with Vargas knocking IC back for 10%, we're highly motivated to gain counterbalancing bonuses.
1936, June 4th:
- Only a few months after the killing stopped in Ethiopia and an empire imposed, world peace is again broken, this time by war between Chinese. Kuomindang forces strike south against the Guanxi Clique, seeking to re-unite China and strengthen the Nationalist regime against both Japanese and Communist threats. Mao signed a truce arrangement back in March, but retains his Yan'an bastion and merely awaits opportunity for his own dialectic. Meanwhile, Japan looks on with interest...
1936, June 12th:
- ... but she wants friends before making any move, apparently. Friends like ... Brazil! Very wise. We set up a small trade deal to encourage more of this behavior, but profit, not friendship, is what we're after. A friend Hirohito isn't.
1936, June 15th:
- We develop "Census Tabulating Machine", and our well-respected fighter commander Epaminondas dos Santos (what a wonderful name!) gets funding for his own studies. We hope to learn about modern bomber techniques in the coming years, but basic air tactics are a prerequisite.
1936, July 8th, 2 AM:
- After almost enough partying,...
... we take Prime Minster Baldwin aside and talk alliance. He tells us to get lost. Rumour has it that a Brazilian charge de affairs committed a culinary faux pas with a canapé fork (such things are serious in diplomatic circles).
1936, July 15th:
- We ship the offending individual back to Brazil last class, and try again, this time enlisting the help of Winston Churchill. His price is high: two Cuban cigars and three well-spent hours discussing his masterpiece Great Contemporaries, but Churchill talks to Violet Asquith, who talks to Joe Chamberlain, who talks to his son Neville who talks with Baldwin ... and before you can say "Schnicklegruber", we're finally In The Club!
"They can bill me":
- Every club has its membership fees; the Allies are no exception. The total cost of getting friendly with the British and becoming their Ally came to $1410 in gold, (plus some rares). We paid 3384 supplies to the Americans to get $2820, and received 2820 supplies back from the Germans in exchange for $1410, leaving us with a final bill of 564 supplies, or roughly 115 IC/days. Hitler, in other words, has picked up 5/6ths of the tab.
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Wonderful! I love the tone of the AAR
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nice trading and good work getting into the allies now you can get blueprints!