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On Gandhi, this is the man who told Britain to practice non-violent resistance against the Nazis in 1940, the Nazis of course being famous for the conscience, indeed I based that quote on an actual speech of his at the time.

Context is key. He gave this speech to justify why he urged Indians to oppose contributing to the war effort. In 1939, before Britain decided it wouldn't promise India independence, he was willing to talk about support for the war, and made a show of weeping at the thought of Buckingham in flames.

Equally I say that Bose most certainly was capable of letting his dislikes over-rule thinking and consequently acting like an idiot.

But Britain with Rommel at the gates of Egypt, Singapore falling without a fight, and the British scurrying from Burma is in a bit of a different situation than here.

But nevertheless, carry on. I can only imagine what fate awaits Herr Hitler. Choking on a pretzel? Maybe the French will have their first nuclear reactor melt down along the Seine, ensuring Britain a nuclear monopoly.
 
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Actually that thought occurred to me, but that would waste precious petrol needed for the war effort.... Would a sort of 'House of Lords' arrangement for the Indian Home Rule Parliament work?

Didn't they already have that?
 
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C&D - I'm sure Capcom could substitute in the horrendously fearsome Gurkha Ninja instead.

Faeelin - So basically you're saying he was an Indian Wilkie (or Wilkie was an American Gandhi) - A two faced, treacherous, lying little toe rag with no convictions or morals who would say whatever he thought people wanted to hear to advance his own agenda?

If that is the case I am even more pleased about his premature and unpleasant death, he deserves it even more than I had originally thought.

Arilou - Indeed the Princely States were offered 40% of the upper house and 33% of the lower house. It was an insanely good deal that they nevertheless rejected for a variety of fairly bad reasons. Rest assured they will not get such good terms in TTL or indeed be offered as much freedom to reject it.
 
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Didn't they already have that?

Yep. For some reason the congress wasn't a fan of letting them gain such power because some watery tart with a sword anointed their ancestors.
 
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It's an interesting race to see if Faelin's or El Pip's or Le Jones' alternate timelines turns out the most dystopian.
 
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:eek: Really?!? Although a zombie Churchill would be very cool.:rofl:

Eh, to be a zombie churchill he has to rise from grave.
 
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It's an interesting race to see if Faelin's or El Pip's or Le Jones' alternate timelines turns out the most dystopian.

Well, El Pip's is going to end with a bitter and divided Europe, or one ruled by the 3rd Reich. Le Jones will end with Britain dictating the terms to the radioactive ruins of Europe.

Mine will get Esperanto as the first language on the moon. Clearly, the rest of the worlds don't know how lucky they have it.
 
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Faeelin - While the Princes weren't too keen on handing over their kingdoms to a two faced hypocrite in a nappy who wanted everyone to live in the village they were born in for their entire life.

Arilou - It very much depends on your definition of dystopia. As yours appears to go "Britain doing well = dystopia" and "socialism = good" I would suggest your going to find Faeelin's final outcome the most appropriate for your prejudices. ;)

Davout - Zombie Churchill, the man too British to die, has escaped from Hell itself and is now back to rebuild the Empire and eat some Nazi brains!

Faeelin - Unless the voodoo priest makes him a zombie when he's still in the grave, thus he climbs out a zombie. Though I must confess my knowledge of the details of zombie making is perhaps not all it should be.

Carlstadt Boy - Possibly.. though I make no promises.

Faeelin - Really? I thought yours was going to end in St. Stressman being re-incarnated and continuing to be utterly perfect, using his solar power arse to provide limitless fusion power while imposing a high tax, nanny knows best, just do what your told social democrat nirvana.
 
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Faeelin - Really? I thought yours was going to end in St. Stressman being re-incarnated and continuing to be utterly perfect, using his solar power arse to provide limitless fusion power while imposing a high tax, nanny knows best, just do what your told social democrat nirvana.

Stresemann? A Social Democrat?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

YOU AMUSE JAPAN

So basically you're saying he was an Indian Wilkie (or Wilkie was an American Gandhi) - A two faced, treacherous, lying little toe rag with no convictions or morals who would say whatever he thought people wanted to hear to advance his own agenda?

You enrage Japan (Japan is pro-Willkie)
 
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Huzzah!

...Not at home at the moment, so I must be brief. :(

Briefly, I congratulate and salute you, El Pip - to think that we nearly got just a few new FAA planes and a sinkable metal thingy, instead of the death of that arch-traitor and total nut-job Ghandi! :eek:

Well done, and keep up the very good work! :rofl:
 
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Alexus - Maybe not the real Stresemann, but Faeelin's one did solve every problem he faced with a larger state, more civil servants and more taxes. Doesn't sound very liberal to me, but what do I know?

I also note that Japan remains fooled by Wilkie and his lying ways, not until they see the true man behind the lies will Japan get anywhere.

RAFspeak - Arch-traitor and total nut-job. I will endeavour to ensure that is the inscription left on Ghandi's gravestone. :D
 
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I see the problem, old chap. You hate Wendell Wilkie, a man who NEVER EXISTED.

Whereas I am roughly in favour of Wendell Willkie.

Maybe not the real Stresemann, but Faeelin's one did solve every problem he faced with a larger state, more civil servants and more taxes.

That's how I'd solve it.

I mean, um... BANZAI
 
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That's how I'd solve it.
Trust me, you wont be saying that when you actually have to start paying tax instead of being a lay about student. ;)

And I refuse to grant Wilkie his second 'l' as a mark of the utter contempt I hold him in, I refuse to even spell his name correctly such are his crimes!
 
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Trust me, you wont be saying that when you actually have to start paying tax instead of being a lay about student. ;)

Or will I?
 
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Trust me, you wont be saying that when you actually have to start paying tax instead of being a lay about student. ;)

Too true. :mad:

And Faeelin's line about Halifax dictating terms to the incandescent graveyard that is post-war Europe in LeJones' epic--priceless.

As for Mr. Willkie, was really a dark horse out-of-nowhere Republican nominee El Pip--should be quite easy for you to erase any notice of him from TTL. ;)
 
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As for Mr. Willkie, was really a dark horse out-of-nowhere Republican nominee El Pip--should be quite easy for you to erase any notice of him from TTL. ;)

This Thursday, October 8th, marks the sixty-fifth anniversary of Wendell Willkie's death. It's probably a good anniversary for El Pip...although he probably wishes it happened sooner.

El Pip, since you hate Willkie so much, how did you manage to survive my depiction of him? :confused:

But nevertheless, carry on. I can only imagine what fate awaits Herr Hitler. Choking on a pretzel? Maybe the French will have their first nuclear reactor melt down along the Seine, ensuring Britain a nuclear monopoly.

Of course, depending on which way the wind blows, the nuclear "dust" (for a lack of a better word) might blow towards Britain.
 
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Well, El Pip's is going to end with a bitter and divided Europe, or one ruled by the 3rd Reich. Le Jones will end with Britain dictating the terms to the radioactive ruins of Europe.

Mine will get Esperanto as the first language on the moon. Clearly, the rest of the worlds don't know how lucky they have it.

...yes, but yours will be filled with a world where people are arrested for thinking outside of the box...and failing to praise the state-run health-care system.

"Work hard, prevent accidents, buy more, be happy!"
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TheExecuter
 
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Of course, depending on which way the wind blows, the nuclear "dust" (for a lack of a better word) might blow towards Britain.

Churchill's hot air will be used to blow it away from the sacred isles.

...yes, but yours will be filled with a world where people are arrested for thinking outside of the box...and failing to praise the state-run health-care system.

"Work hard, prevent accidents, buy more, be happy!"
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TheExecuter

So you're against hard work and happiness? Monster.
 
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