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Ooh! Battleships! (love the pictures trekaddict - were they from alt-naval?)

Just to be really picky, I'll have to point out that Warspite didn't get new secondary armament in her rebuild (note the picture shows the old 6" casemates), though Valiant and Queen Elizabeth did.

I'd be surprised at the RN planning to drop Renown any time soon - hadn't they just finished rebuilding her?

Yay for the KGVs! (which are the obvious thing to build if you want more battleships - I hadn't realised the design was ready so early). I'd still go with 9x15" if time and resources permit, rather than the historical 10x14" or even 12x14" with reduced armour (the 14" quad was a pig). Re-using 15" barrels from the "R"s makes sense, the trouble is that re-using the mounts restricts the ships to 8x15" (undergunned by late '30s standards) or some awkward bodge with "Q" turrets.

Or, if you want battleships on a budget, how about repeating the Nelson design, with re-used 15" replacing the 16" (which were too much for the hull), proper DP secondary armament and using the weight/space saving to fit better engines?

Agree that the FAA needs better planes more than the RN needs better carriers. The only problem is that the FAA were still on their multi-purpose aircraft fixation, if they did order new fighters, they'd probably insist on a second crewman, long range for scouting and the performance of a wounded goose (Fairey Fulmar, anyone?)

For the US election, set an end-date and don't worry if it takes the AAR a bit of time to catch up. More time to fix ^H^H^H react to the outcome.

Oh, and if the States' Rights Party hasn't won South Carolina, something's wrong with the universe. Fix it.
 
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Hull/Barkley in Pennsylvania!

Set an end date and hold the result. If it goes the way I think it will you'll need the time to script the outcome... ;)

and that should mean your naval updates come quicker! :D

Dury.
 
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Chapter LXIII: The Backbone of the Empire.

Turning our attention to the defence estimates we begin with the Senior Service and pride of the British Empire; The Royal Navy. The war with Italy had come as a considerable strategic surprise to the Navy, most planning since the end of the 1920s had revolved around a war in the Far East against Japan while retaining enough strength to protect home waters and the Mediterranean. That so much planning had been so wrong would normally prompt a major re-think, yet the Admiralty could find little fault with their original thinking. Of the great naval powers war with either the United States or France, even allowing for the collapse of the Entente Cordiale, was considered highly unlikely. This left only the Imperial Japanese Navy as the only remaining great naval power, the Italian fleet having been decimated during the Abyssinian War.

Speaking of the Crysanthenum Throne, what is the deployment to Singapore like, and will Britain ever finish those fortifications at Singapore?
 
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I think the reason interest hasn't died down in the election is that its been so close the whole time. If one candidate emerged with a massive lead people would stop voting as no one would see the point, but with leads this small everyone wants to tip the balance in their candidates favour. I say put a deadline on the election but don't release the update or the winner out of sequence.

Without further ado a vote for Landenberg in Alaska :D
 
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I'd be surprised at the RN planning to drop Renown any time soon - hadn't they just finished rebuilding her?
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Yay for the KGVs! (which are the obvious thing to build if you want more battleships - I hadn't realised the design was ready so early). I'd still go with 9x15" if time and resources permit, rather than the historical 10x14" or even 12x14" with reduced armour (the 14" quad was a pig). Re-using 15" barrels from the "R"s makes sense, the trouble is that re-using the mounts restricts the ships to 8x15" (undergunned by late '30s standards) or some awkward bodge with "Q" turrets.
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Agree that the FAA needs better planes more than the RN needs better carriers. The only problem is that the FAA were still on their multi-purpose aircraft fixation, if they did order new fighters, they'd probably insist on a second crewman, long range for scouting and the performance of a wounded goose (Fairey Fulmar, anyone?).

Good point re: Renown, she was a fast, useful ship as modernized and had a very good war (generally as a carrier escort).

The Admiralty's favored KGV design was for 3 x 3--15" guns, if there's no pressure to reduce gun size and the 35,000t limit still has any sway, that would be the way to go.

There was talk in the Admiralty as early as late '37 about single-seat fighters (a conversion of the Hurricane being the likely candidate); of course this got shelved for a variety of reasons and didn't re-emerge until Norway and the Med showed the need clearly. If the FAA could get a Sea Hurricane with folding wings and capacity for 90 gallons of add'l fuel in drop tanks (to allow for longer CAP endurance & add'l range for escort missions) by say 1939 that'd be a great development. :D
 
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Without further ado a vote for Landenberg in Alaska :D

Alaska doesn't officially become a state until 1959. Therefore, they don't count.

Vermont votes for Landon-Vandenberg, just to flip Alaska off. :D
 
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Go with an enddate for the election and hold off till it fits in, which seems to be the sentiment of the rest of my fellow readers lol. Also, I wish to claim the Commonwealth of Virginia in the name of Alf Landon and Art Vandenberg.

~Hawk
 
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Alf* for President!

*Alf Landon
 
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BB / CV debate (guaranteed to contain no trains :)

Renown was a useful old girl, largely because she (as an old-school BC) was indeed fast enough to keep up with the new nearly-30 knot CVs. The 16" power of Nelson and Rodney was difficult to apply, because of their ageing engines and because they were never designed to go faster than 24 knots anyway...

Thinking about the AAR history to date, I do worry that the 'Castles-on-the-Sea' admirals in the RN will take what has happened thus far and be content that they can keep asking for more BBs in the same old mold. Sounds like that magnificent veteran Keyes is our best hope for common sense - let's hear it for a dual-purpose CV-capable fighter/bomber from DeHavilland of novel design and capabilities! Hint : it is made out of wood, is lightweight for a two-man machine, has two engines for greater safety of carrier operation, and will be the fastest aircraft in the world when first flown... :rofl:

...In case anyone thinks I only want to scrap the Navy's heavy metal, I'd simply like to reassure them that I don't. I just don't think we need any more. All those lovely old rust-buckets are useful for important wartime convoy escort and shore bombardment duties. Most important of all, of course, is their ability to 'show the flag' before any war starts - hopefully deterring aggression and influencing politician's minds! :cool:

And finally, some late-breaking news - Connecticut votes Cordell Hull! :D
 
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Oi! We may be European, but we are certainly not socialist! That Germany has mandatory ID-cards is a remnant of when we were occupied by your lot!

Well you mean the times that some of us were occupied by good ol' uncle Joe and his band after he beat the crap out of a goddamn austrian painter and his lot yes??:D

Oh and one more more statment from mr Osborn - "America has had enough of this good for nothing prohibition. I say Legal booze for everybody. Anyone who thinks diffrently is just on mafias payroll. Oh and Ironman sux."
 
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Well you mean the times that some of us were occupied by good ol' uncle Joe and his band after he beat the crap out of a goddamn austrian painter and his lot yes??:D

Well, yes. But for that very reason Austrians are no longer considered German, just...Austrian. Besides, I live in the former French Zone of occupation. Thats almost as bad for an area that has a history of French Invasions during the 17th and 16th centuries.
 
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Come on people, we just need a few more pushes like the last one, and Garner might end up as a president! Vote Garner/White in Georgia
 
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Vote Garner in Virginia. He's coming North!
 
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Well you mean the times that some of us were occupied by good ol' uncle Joe and his band after he beat the crap out of a goddamn austrian painter and his lot yes??:D

Oh and one more more statment from mr Osborn - "America has had enough of this good for nothing prohibition. I say Legal booze for everybody. Anyone who thinks diffrently is just on mafias payroll. Oh and Ironman sux."

Mr. Osborn likes throwing blonde women off bridges!

Hull/Iron-Man! A vote for NOT killing of sexy blondes!
 
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Vote Garner/White
Maine


why not shut off the voting on new years day. definite end point that no one will forget, and gives you a month or so to count the votes.

then re-count the votes until it says what it's 'supposed' to say, like every other american election.;)

later, caff
 
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Its a shame the tech tree doesn't allow (like in the original CORE for the first HoI) to have aviation cruisers. I mean, bung a flight deck on the back of a County class cruiser, and hey presto, either for float planes or autogyros for ASW (now that would be cool)).
 
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