Golden Horde - Scourge From The East

**The Real Deal** · 13-09-2006 06:08

Originally Posted by Grundius

Your maps crack me up

Damn straight

Delhicatessen, Monkland, Imitation GH and the Shites

The actually Horde kingdom also looks very sweet, very pretty

Regarding the Turk peace....yeah I had forgot this was a mod, gold is good!!!

Just what is the BB at this time?

**Duke of Wellington** · 13-09-2006 10:17

lilljonas - It's a common phrase. Sure to be heard again.

Deus - Nah just enough spare time at the moment to afford this luxury. There was killing. All of Iraq's heir and ruelrs were killed.

Chief Ragusa - Persia will be tidied up in time, it really is a mess. I can't claim Mongolia's throne as they are pagan

J. Passepartout -

Maybe, maybe.....

SunZyl - They will be incorporated in time but at the moment taking them puts me VERY close to the BB limit.

GrimPagan - Yeah a few similarities between the last map but enough difference to make it worthwhile.

Saulta - Thanks, I think it looks quite good too

Mettermrck - Cheers, it's true Golden Horde reallyi s the most appropriately named nation in the game.

stnylan - You have a good foresight

Grundius - Thanks. They grant military access to me and the OE so that keeps em alive.

Nobegow - Thanks. I kinda liekd those too if I may say so myself.

Bismarck1 - If only they'd give me a reason or better yet DOW me.

pjrap - They've actually been fairly peaceful with Muscovy but as you say they ate all the others.

LoopyLewis - Thanks and welcome along.

The_Imp - Thanks, yeah and getting into Persia alone is still pretty good.

Rotten Venetic - Thanks. The nation in Siberia is Mongolia. They are Fars but previously I had the Khans show their contempt for them by calling them Farce. Then when they became friends that had to stop and they be more friendly.

GregóriodeMatos - It's a long term goal but at the moment not worth the BB.

Storey - Thanks. Glad to have you back. I can't really call the uzbeks too much of a pain since its all my doing unlike your Crimea. I'll have to sort them out eventually. Denmark were the only viable option to get into Ennedica as Engalnd and France have both failed to colonise the area more than one or two provs. Denmark have a big area there. I'm still amazed at how many views this is getting.

The Real Deal - Thanks. I thoguht Delhicatessen might have been too cheesy. Gold is very good

BB at the moment is ~40 out of 48.

**Duke of Wellington** · 13-09-2006 10:18

Chigishi : Part 7
Chigishi's armies rushed to Karsak to put down the revolt. However something was triggered in Chigishi and he was no longer satisfied with simply killing the rebels laying siege to his cities.

The beginning of the 'Year of Blood'

Chigishi may have been a fit Khan and one who could achieve great victories against a superior foe but he was still poorly skilled in dealing with internal problems. His efforts to quell the uzbeks were brutal but ineffective.

The failings of oppression become apparent

The matter is far from being controlled

While attempts were made to keep knowledge of the uzbek troubles from the general population such a widespread problem leaked out soon enough. It was not good news for the Khan as the stories of repeated losses and failures spread disquiet through the realm.

Definitely not what is needed, on the bright side at least the Horde apparently qualifies as an advanced western European nation.

So with the situation growing worse and even spreading Chigishi was forced to take decisive and immediate action.

In an unexpected turn the uzbeks gain the upper hand

**Bismarck1** · 13-09-2006 10:41

this is not good, though glad to see the horde is now a civilized mondern westernized horde.

I am not sure which one to pick though for the last event. how many armies do you have for these revolts?

**GrimPagan** · 13-09-2006 10:56

No, what I meant was that there were two map pictures, when the last should probably be some rebels getting their asses (and heads) handed to them.

Originally Posted by Duke of Wellington

So at last the warmongering of Iraq was silenced. Of course such an occasion meant updating maps.

The Chigishi map of 1659

A month later even better news arrived. At last the heretics of Chernigov had been converted to Islam. Chigishi could now truthfully claim to rule over a realm entirely of the true faith.

But just taking over Iraq isn't the end of it all. There's always insurgents to add to the experience.

Insurgents give Chigishi the full 'Iraq Experience'

And no negosiations with terrorists. Not even when their demands are modest and quite reasonable, and you in all fairness is a greater terrorist then they will ever be.

**Duke of Wellington** · 13-09-2006 11:21

Bismarck1 - Which do you think it will be?

GrimPagan -

Oops that was bad. I don't know how on earth I completely missed that. Fixed it now thanks for pointing it out.

**Deus** · 13-09-2006 11:50

Now there was enough blood and violence, though the horde seems to be weaternized. Fortunately the favourite sport of Uzbek-hunting, which is a long standing and honored tradition of the GH, hasn't dissapeared.

I must say that that I'm sad to see that the Uzbeks sport of Chigishihunting isn't outlawed yet. How can a normal hordesman accept this, I dare say?

**rsobota** · 13-09-2006 11:57

You should say "Broken Door" instead of "Broken pillar"

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**Chief Ragusa** · 13-09-2006 12:45

Things have taken a serious turn for the worse - at least for Chigishi. For Chigalda, it's the prospect of becoming Khan and using Chigishi's death as a unifying clarion call to the Horde to finally deal with the uzbeks. It is time to leave all their bones to blanche on the Steppe for the vultures.

**SunZyl** · 13-09-2006 12:48

That's a hard pick... VERY hard. You really give yourself handicaps don't you?

**pjrap** · 13-09-2006 13:19

Question does Uzbeks get total independence or become your satelits. because if they do you migh consider giving them that authonomy.

Anyway your empire is quit enough big to maintain. You have to councour thouse Siberian lands you know.

Anyway you should get them puppeted or something like that. That uzbek uprising thing just takes to much of your AAR. We want war not stupid Partisans

**J. Passepartout** · 13-09-2006 14:09

Never surrender. The rebels are what make countries like the Golden Horde, the Timurid Empire, and the like fun.

And furthermore, the Golden Horde is an advanced Western European nation, unlike the Uzbeks.

**GregóriodeMatos** · 13-09-2006 20:08

The Horde is now wanting to consider themselves Western Infidel Nations? What about Chigshi dies and the Horde receives a Khan that is proud to not be European?

Eh, your decision will probably be for best of the Horde, but do the Horde's people with the culture of beheading care for their Khan enough, or let him die and launch an ethnical cleaning under a new Khan? So much mystery for the next update.

**Rotten Venetic** · 13-09-2006 20:48

That's a lot of revolt-events. By now it would be expected that the Uzbeks declared independence on their own, not that they're ransoming Chigishi for it. Any Uzbek leader would've rather applied to Golden Horde tradition (reasonable to consider, after all, with 100+ years of occupation): beheaded Chigishi, proclaim independence and raid the GH. Now that would've been a headache, and revolters on all sides to calm down that bb.

Oops. Now you can't do this. Drat.

**Chief Ragusa** · 13-09-2006 21:32

This would not be the Horde way:

Chigishi is rescued from certain death by an Orthodox priest who escaped the massacre of his fellow priests in Chernigov. In gratitude, Chigishi follows the Orthodox path. He releases the Uzbeks and 7 other vassal states in Eurasia, lets Ennedica go as a vassal state in the New World, gains the orthodox tech group and keeps the best 30 provinces for the new look Horde. He'd have to face down several Horde revolts including wannabe-Khan Chigalda.

Naturally, I favour Horde tradition in "Let their bones rot upon the Steppe".

**stnylan** · 13-09-2006 21:39

Chigishi must be sacrificed to prevent uzbek independence!

**Lord_D** · 14-09-2006 16:05

uzbeks? INDEPENDENCE? Those 2 words in one phrase?????

NO WAY

**Storey** · 14-09-2006 16:12

In games terms I always found putting down revolts tedious so my advice is to drop kick the little buggers out the door. Besides you can have the satisfaction of reconquering them.

Joe

**coz1** · 14-09-2006 16:30

Well, it was too much to ask for to see both the Iraq situation and the Uzbek problem dealt with in such a short span of time.

**Grundius** · 15-09-2006 14:49

Chigishi would understand. Let him die for the glory of The Horde!

(And please, you have kicked yourself enough with these events. I say make the uzbek provinces your culture and population -50%).

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