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Farquharson - Just created a story of a civil war. I only represented it in game with a stabilty loss. Since neither party was in control using rebels wouldn't really have been appropriate. The Horde vs Horde shot was just edited to look so.

GrimPagan - Uzbeks need eat very little to get by ;) Senseless violence at least gets a strong Khan to lead the nation.

Chief Ragusa - Muscovy aren't my vassal. I don't think they even started as my vassal but can't recall for sure. I need to go to war with them but the cost in BB of DOWing them and taking provinces would be too high.

Specialist290 - I'd say thats a possibilty. Sinai is owned by Transylvania who are allied with the Ottomans.

jwolf - I just represented it in game with stability loss. Theres bound to be more trouble from this soon enough.

Nobegow - Thanks. Those sound like good possibilities, though allying with the uzbeks could be below him.

stnylan - Nothing like a civil war to sort out the strongest Khan.
 
Aye, a misremembered snipet from your war with Muscovy back in the 1480s. You gained provinces but did not make them vassals.

Actually, your civil war (1633 Map Sayyid seizes the Throne) pitted the original lands of the Golden Horde (Sayyid) against those of the Uzbeks (Jagala)! Thiose veteran eastern armies defeated the western. I think, Khan Jagala is from one of those Horde families trying to civilise the Uzbek provinces. Unfortunately, the Uzbeks don't seem to survive the Horde initiation tests, yet province after province is now gaining tartar culture. They also revolt at the drop of a hat, now timing their insurrection with times of other trouble for the Horde.

I believe Khan Jagala's eyes are on "Farce" to secure a land connection with Iraq (though if they dishonour the alliance, they're likely to get partioned between Ethiopia and the Ottomans) and Mongolia. I can see many Letters of Introduction and Personal Gifts being sent to European and African states (The Introductory Years). A Gift of Carpets in the Vatican, perhaps?
 
Nicely orchestrated! Yet I fear Sayyid will return! Perhaps a "Pretender to the Throne" event for the Ottomans?
 
Violence for violence's sake, I imagine. That's really the Horde's stock and trade. That must have been quite a time adding the colors to the maps above. But nicely done to tell the story of this power struggle. And what a reward it is for Jagala - the right to destroy the uzbek. He clearly thought of little else during those long months of battle. ;)
 
Chief Ragusa - Jagala may hail from around the land of the uzbeks but he is in no way a supporter of them anymore than Kadim.

Grundius - I hope it doesn't occur in that way but he may be back.

coz1 - It didn't take too long to do, I don't mind working on maps. If I were a good writer I could have told it better in words but that way suited me.
 
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Jagala

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The latest Khan
Jagala may have taken over a country at war only with one obscure distant nation but he had not taken over a peaceful one. The civil war had left deep resentment in the lands loyal to Sayyid.

Jagala began a program of replacing the lords and officials in charge of the lands north of Volgograd. In true Horde fashion the program was no where near bloodless or democratic. Anyone in authority in the region was liable to be removed from office by means of beheading based upon nothing more than a rumour.

Of course this had serious consequences. Those truly loyal to Sayyid were faced with two options. Sit back and wait for the axe or take action and rise up in arms. They chose the latter (of course knowing them the latter would have been chosen even if the first choice were very favourable).
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The rebellions in the aftermath of the War of Succession

Jagala's army was swift to move upon the rebels for fear of their spreading, a stong possibility given the volatile situation in the Horde at the time. However given the big base of support and sheer determination the rebels proved very difficult to crush. In all they took the best part of five months to be quelled.

Seeing that his harsh punishments were only creating violence Jagala soon opted for a more lenient measure upon the less zealous of Sayyid's supporters, they were deported to the 'luxurious' colony of Tomsk on the border with Mongolia. A move Jagala was overheard to referring to as Mongol cannon fodder deployment.

In a bold and unexpected move Ethiopia went on the offensive against the Horde by actually invading the South. Some doomsayers even predicted this was the end, a judgement upon Jagala and his wicked ways and the African masses would crush all before them leaving only the righteous few alive.
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Ethiopia's blitzkrieg forces strike fear into the Golden Horde​
Any fears of an Ethiopian takeover were shortly proven wrong when the entire Ethiopian force was massacred with the loss of only 45 men, 43 of whom are believed to have slept in thinking the whole business to be rather silly.
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One of the leaders of the men who missed the battle

Nonetheless Jagala was pleased with the result and left Astrakhan for the first time in his seven months in power with the purpose of visiting the victorious soldiers.
Alga had always been an area loyal to Jagala but for a short time was controlled by Sayyid. Following Jagala's overall victory he had taken considerable efforts to remove the last of Sayyid's supporters from the province. The efforts were not thorough enough. Jagala and his company were ambushed as they passed through a narrow valley in the province. The two opposing sides each consisted of several hundred cavalry. However Sayyid's supporters had the upper hand because they controlled the high ground.

Jagala and his men were harassed from the north and south by repeated charges whilst other attacked with arrows from the sides. His men were pinned and forced to protect north and south leaving their flanks exposed. This played right into the ambushers hands. Suddenly the pressure on Jagala's sides was increased. The collapse was almost immediate. His forces scattered and the Khan himself was thrown from his horse. He was then beheaded brutally by a rider, a wound that tends to result in death and the Khan was no exception.

Jagala would go down in history as the shortest ruling Khan ever. At least it was something to be remembered for .
 
lilljonas said:
I should have expected something since you didn't add a "part 1" after poor Jagala's name...

Good point -- I didn't think of that 'til it was too late!

Duke, you do have a way of having your Khans exit with style! :eek: OK, so the two top contenders killed each other, now what?

By the way it would be really cool if EU3 had the possibility of regular succession wars as you have played out in this great AAR.

How did you make that horse graphic in your map?
 
Another Khan bites the dust. Becoming Khan doesn't, on the whole, seem to be all that difficult. Remaining Khan is turning out to be rather trickier.
 
Duke of Wellington said:
... He was then beheaded brutally by a rider, a wound that tends to result in death and the Khan was no exception.

Yes, indeed an often lamented effect of removing one's head from one's body.

Jagala should receive the epitaph "The Great" though, since he did crush the invicible Ethiopian hordes. :D
 
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Neat army pics!

Jagala did not stick around long enough for anyone to discover what his views were on the Uzbeks or on anything else for that matter.

Was the invincible Ethiopian army larger when it set out or was it always that small? Who DoWed whom?

Khan Sayyid next?

Shame that those revolts spread into Muscovy, wasn't it? Sayyid's supporters putting down a marker for future action?
 
lilljonas - Its a bit of a giveaway isn't it :D I thought of adding in Part 1 just to hide it.

jwolf - It would be an interesting concept to see. I'd like to somehow see civil wars represented as more than just rebellions but how is beyond me :( I discovered the various sprites and graphics in the Scenarios and Modifcation forum. AFAIK the horde archer is adapted from Civ 3. I thought it quite a bit more appropriate for the Horde. Also some nice new sprites for Russia and Persia.

Farquharson - Always an proud achievement for any Khan. I wish I'd found them earlier they're so much more suited to the Horde than the normal one.

stnylan - Very true. Theres always someone hungry for your power.

Grundius - Not a bad idea, but that depends if his successor is loyal to him or not.

Nobegow, SunZyl - They're scattered throughout this thread and more can be found here.

Chief Ragusa - His views on the uzbeks would have been normal. That was the entire Ethiopian invasion. They were DOWed by my ally Iraq during Kadim's reign.
 
Jagala the Shortest! Or Jagala the Headless

I did not mean to imply that Jagala thought he should be nice to the Uzbeks, merely that their provinces should have tartar culture either through making the Uzbeks be accepted into the Horde or their dying out in the attempt. :eek:o

You've acquired many provinces from other nations and whole other nations. What is the chance that someone from those subject raes could join the Horde army, rise through the ranks and become Khan after a succession war? You did have a crimean khan way back.

Probable memo from Horde ambassador to vassal state of Iraq to Khan: Secure border with Iraq and diploannex soonest! :rolleyes:

I've assumed Sayyid's going to be Khan, but successions are usually more complicated in the Horde and other Generals may have plans of their own. :rofl:
 
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It's time to invade, you must not let the christian fudamentalist terrorists get away with their senseless attacks on the greatest nation on earth. Their funding of uzbek insurgents must not go unpunished.
 
Yes, it is becoming more and more evident that the Christian nations must be given a harsh warning, preferrably in the annexation of some foolish neighbour!

Now the question is whether the next Khan will look towards the Middle East or the Baltic. I'd say the Baltic, those Moscovites ruin the glorious smoothness of the Horde's map. :)
 
GrimPagan said:
It's time to invade, you must not let the christian fudamentalist terrorists get away with their senseless attacks on the greatest nation on earth. Their funding of uzbek insurgents must not go unpunished.

How would they even know the Uzbeks still exist? The Khans do not like visitors and send them on their way - home. (Unless there is something Duke hasn't told us.)