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I think giving the United Kingdom of the Netherlands a seperate tag would be good, even if it's only for about 15 years. You might even want to give them Waloon culture for that short period. It can always be removed for the the actual Dutch nation when it appears.

Speaking of VR, are the elections any better? I was rather annoyed with Victoria as it fails to stimulate post-Napoleonic politics at all. I've never seen ANY reactionary party get elected. It rather defeats the purpose of Conservative Europe when Reactionary parties get no support. I created this event to hopefully alievate it, but it should probally be made a global event (like the liberal revolution) to show how Europe was until the 1830s.

Code:
##############################################
# The Ancien Regime Returns (Helps Make Elections more Dynamic)
##############################################

event = {
	id = [insert tag] 
	random = no
	country = FRA #Maybe make this a Global event for all European countries except ENG to stimulate reactionary elements?
	
	trigger = {
		NOT = { pop_majority = liberal }
		}

	name = "The Return of the Ancien Regime"
	desc = "After the fall of Napoleon in 1814, Louis XVIII was restored as King of France, mostly thanks to Talleyrand. The return of the monarchy out of exile also meant the return of the monarchies supporters, who were quite ready for revenge.."
	style = 0

	date = { day = 2 month = january year = 1815 }

action_a = {
	name = "For God, King, and Country!
      command = { type = convert_pop_type which = aristocrats value = reactionary when = 70 } 
      command = { type = convert_pop_type which = officers value = reactionary when = 60 } 
      command = { type = convert_pop_type which = conservative value = reactionary when = 65 }
	command = { type = national_value which = order }
	command = { type = pop_militancy which = liberal value = 1 }
	command = { type = pop_consciousness which = liberal value = 2 }
		}
	}

And of course, an event to end it.

Code:
##############################################
# The Restoration Begins to Falter
##############################################

event = {
	id = [insert tag]
	random = no
	country = FRA #Maybe make this a global event to represent the crumbling of the order at Vienna?

	name = "The Restoration begins to falter"
	desc = "Between 1827 and 1830, France faced a series of economic down-turns, both industrial and agriculturally that were perhaps worse than 1789. High tariffs forced the peasantry into near-famine and at the same time, international pressures combined with weakened purchasing power from the provinces led to decreased economic activity in urban centers. These downturns contributed to rising poverty levels among Parisian artisans. By 1830, many of the lower classes had suffered from the policies of Charles X. There was also the problem of liberal bloc in the French chamber, which grew with each year..."
	style = 0

	date = { day = 1 month = feburary year = 1827 }
	offset = 50
	deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1830 }

action_a = {
	name = "The old order is crumbling!"
	command = { type = convert_pop_type which = conservative value = liberal when = 50 }
	command = { type = convert_pop_type which = reactionary value = liberal when = 15 }
	command = { type = convert_pop_type which = farmers value = liberal when = 25 }
	command = { type = convert_pop_type which = laborers value = liberal when = 40 }
	command = { type = pop_militancy which = liberal value = 2 }
	command = { type = pop_consciousness which = liberal value = 3 }
	command = { type = pop_militancy which = conservative value = 2 }
	command = { type = pop_consciousness which = conservative value = -3 }
	command = { type = revolt where = -1 }
		}
	}

Not sure if they would work correctly though, or last long enough to actually effect politics. I've also created some more events for France. Mostly flavor, although the election events serve to ensure the historical parties are appointed. They aren't nessesarily needed, but it does make the "elections" more dynamic.

Code:
##############################################
# Les Cent-Jours Politics
##############################################

event = {
	id = [insert tag]
	random = no
	country = FRA

	trigger = {
		constitution = { type = monarchy }
		year = { 1815 }

	name = "The Policies of Les Cent-Jours"
	desc = "At Lyon, on 13 March 1815, Napoleon issued an edict dissolving the French Chamber and calling a mass meeting to codify a new constitution. The Constitution bestowed on France a hereditary chamber of peers and a chamber of representatives elected by the "electoral colleges" of the empire, which comprised scarcely one hundredth part of the citizens of France. As Châteaubriand remarked, in reference to Louis XVIII's constitutional charter, the new constitution — La Benjamine, it was dubbed — was merely a slightly improved charter."
	style = 0

	date = { day = 13 month = May year = 1815 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = July year = 1815 }

action_a = {
	name = "He hasn't changed one bit!"
	command = { type = wake_party which = 7206 }
	command = { type = set_ruling_party which = 7206 }
		}
	}

Code:
##############################################
# The Chambre introuvable
##############################################

event = {
	id = [insert tag]
	random = no
	country = FRA

	trigger = {
		constitution = { type = constitutional_monarchy }
		year = { 1815 }


	name = "The election of 1815"
	desc = "The Second Restoration started in 1815, after Napoleon was defeated at Waterloo. With the return of the Restoration, new elections were called. This resulted in the Chambre introuvable being elected in 1815, dominated by ultraroyalists, or Ultras. It was later dissolved by Richelieu as being impossible to work with, and electoral gerrymandering would result in a more liberal chamber in 1816."
	style = 0

	date = { day = 8 month = july year = 1815 } #The day Louis XVIII returned to Paris
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1815 }

action_a = {
	name = "Perhaps democracy is not the best thing..."
	command = { type = set_ruling_party which = 7215 }
	command = { type = trigger  which = <insert tag> } #The Election of 1816
		}
	}

Code:
##############################################
# The White Terror
##############################################

event = {
	id = [insert tag]
	random = no
	country = FRA

	name = "The White Terror"
	desc = "When Louis XVIII returned from Ghent in July 1815, supporters of the monarchy were quick to carry out revenge against the Bonapartists in southern France who had supported the emperor in the Hundred Days. The central government was ineffectual to prevent such violence, and became the first stain on the record of the Restoration monarchy."
	style = 0

	date = { day = 8 month = july year = 1815 } #The day Louis XVIII returned to Paris
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1815 }

action_a = {
	name = "Bonapartists will not be tolerated!"
		command = { type = prestige value = -5 }
		command = { type = sleep_party which = 7206 }
		command = { type = pop_militancy which = aristocrats value = 1 where = 0 }
		command = { type = pop_consciousness value = 2 }
		}
	}

Code:
##############################################
# The Election of 1816
##############################################

event = {
	id = [insert tag]
	random = no
	country = FRA

	trigger = {
		constitution = { type = constitutional_monarchy }

	name = "The election of 1816"
	desc = "By 1816, King Louis XVIII was upset with the Chambre introuvable and had it dissolved and new elections called. Electorial gerrymandering on part of the government resulted in the election of a more liberal chamber."
	style = 0

	date = { day = 1 month = july year = 1816 }
	offset = 50
	deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1816 }

action_a = {
	name = "Perhaps democracy is not the best thing..."
	command = { type = set_ruling_party which = 7216 }
	command = { type = trigger  which = <insert tag> } #The Election of 1820
		}
	}

Code:
##############################################
# The assassination of the Duc d'Berry
##############################################

event = {
	id = [insert tag]
	random = no
	country = FRA

	name = "The Duc d'Berry is assassinated"
	desc = "By 1820, the Duc d'Berry, Charles-Ferdinand the ultrareactionary son of Charles, the Comte d'Artois and Dauphin of FRance was assassinated. This caused an uproar amongst the upper-classes in society, which resulted in the down-fall of Louis XVIII's electoral plotting, bringing the Ultra-Royalists back into power.
	style = 0

	date = { day = 1 month = janurary year = 1820 }
	offset = 70
	deathdate = { day = 14 month = feburary year = 1820 }

action_a = {
	name = "Oh no!" 
      command = { type = convert_pop_type which = aristocrats value = reactionary when = 80 } 
      command = { type = convert_pop_type which = officers value = reactionary when = 60 }
	command = { type = trigger  which = <insert tag> } #The Election of 1820
		}
	}

Code:
##############################################
# The Election of 1820
##############################################

event = {
	id = [insert tag]
	random = no
	country = FRA

	trigger = {
		constitution = { type = constitutional_monarchy }
		year = { 1820 }

	name = "The election of 1820"
	desc = "By 1820, both Louis XVIII and Decazes were upset by the liberal chamber, which had proved just as unmanagable as the Ultra-Royalists. Both men sought ways to revise the electoral laws which would result in a more conservative majority. However, the assassination of the Duc d'Berry meant that the Ultra-Royalists would triumph, pushing Decazes and dreams of moderation out of the window."
	style = 0

	date = { day = 14 month = feburary year = 1820 }
	offset = 50
	deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1820 }

action_a = {
	name = "Perhaps democracy is not the best thing..."
	command = { type = set_ruling_party which = 7215 }
		}
	}
 
Drake Rlugia said:
I think giving the United Kingdom of the Netherlands a seperate tag would be good, even if it's only for about 15 years. You might even want to give them Waloon culture for that short period. It can always be removed for the the actual Dutch nation when it appears.

Speaking of VR, are the elections any better? I was rather annoyed with Victoria as it fails to stimulate post-Napoleonic politics at all. I've never seen ANY reactionary party get elected. It rather defeats the purpose of Conservative Europe when Reactionary parties get no support. I created this event to hopefully alievate it, but it should probally be made a global event (like the liberal revolution) to show how Europe was until the 1830s.

Giving the United Kingdom of the Netherlands Walloon culture might not be correct, as it was they who rebelled against the Dutch. Perhaps they could start with it, but at least they should lose it before 1830.

The elections are more dynamic, but reactionaries still have little support. The problem is that reactionaries need high militancy and as soon as militancy drops below 7 they'll turn conservative. I'll try to see how long the pops remain reactionaries. As for your events, they look good. Especially the election events, and IMO they are needed to put the right party into power. But perhaps a B option should be added so a player has the choice which party to chose, either the liberals or the reactionaries.

EDIT: I've just tested your first event and how long the reactionaries would remain. Even before the end of January all reactionaries are gone, the only way to keep them is to give them a militancy boost, but I've no idea whether that is a good or bad thing to do.
 
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Why not rename the ideologies - for example, conservative to reactionary, liberal to conservative and socialist to liberal? Given that those three are the non-radical ideologies (iirc) they should stick around longer. Then just make up a name for militant reactionaries and militant conservatives and you're set.
 
|AXiN| said:
Why not rename the ideologies - for example, conservative to reactionary, liberal to conservative and socialist to liberal? Given that those three are the non-radical ideologies (iirc) they should stick around longer. Then just make up a name for militant reactionaries and militant conservatives and you're set.
Renaming the ideologies wouldn't affect which POPs tend to which ideologies. You would have POPs that would normally be socialist be 'liberal', POPs that would normally be liberal be 'conservative', etc.
 
Right, but wouldn't that work within the mod anyway? Traditionalists tending towards being reactionary, the middle class tending towards conservatism, and the oppressed workers tending towards liberalism
 
Yes, I noticed myself that when you use events to change ideology, it rarely sticks around (maybe 1 or 2 days at most). It'd be best to just omit them, as there is no reason why the aristocrats should have high militancy when the nation they are living within is an ideal government.

For the election events, b and c options would be good too. I believe the Restoration has 3 parties, so during the elections you can just choose which party to appoint. Btw, do event-caused appointation of parties increase militancy? Because if so...it might not be a good idea.
 
Drake Rlugia said:
Yes, I noticed myself that when you use events to change ideology, it rarely sticks around (maybe 1 or 2 days at most). It'd be best to just omit them, as there is no reason why the aristocrats should have high militancy when the nation they are living within is an ideal government.

For the election events, b and c options would be good too. I believe the Restoration has 3 parties, so during the elections you can just choose which party to appoint. Btw, do event-caused appointation of parties increase militancy? Because if so...it might not be a good idea.

I'm not sure about that actually. If changing a party gives a militancy boost, the event might need a militancy reduction in it. This just hit me as well, now those events appoint a party, but there is still the regular election, which can elect a different party. A solution could be that this event will fire during the election, and set a flag. After the election is over it will appoint the party you've selected in the earlier event, if it's not ruling. If the party you've selected is ruling, then the event won't fire.
 
Wannabe, did you ever finish the V:R version of your mod?

If so can you give me some tips. I am now converting the RoN mod to V:R.




Cheers, Thorgrimm
 
Where can I download this mod? I have V:R. Thanks
 
ok the no time limit patch isnt working, i followed the instructions till 'Select the button 'Select target file to patch' and select the file Victoria.exe. Press Start to apply this patch.'. then the computor tells me there is a 'file access error'

Wannabe Tatar said:
THE 1815 MOD

Version 1.03 of the 1815 mod is available!!!!



NOTE: The game now starts in 1815, so first get the no time limit patch here

Download not available anymore

Post suggestions, bugs, feedback either here or at the 1815 forum found here
 
Sorry about the bump. Is this compatible with V:R? I was just thinking of this mod 2 AM (20 minutes ago) and in a state of sleep deprivity, said to myself, I gotta have this baby.
 
Wenceslaus II said:
Sorry about the bump. Is this compatible with V:R? I was just thinking of this mod 2 AM (20 minutes ago) and in a state of sleep deprivity, said to myself, I gotta have this baby.

No, unfortunately not. And due to real-life issues, my 1914 mod (which isn't dead btw ;) ), my various AARs, I have no time to make it V:R compatible as well. I might still have all the work on my computer, so if some one wants to revive it I can sent them the files I still have.
 
Ehh, just upload it halfway done and put it on the table. ;)
 
Ok, that was accomplished this morning. Very good. Wannabe_Tatar, check the downloads section.
 
Hey, where can I get this mod, the original? I got the small tweaks thing, but I want the original version so that I can actually play it. Thanks in advance.

Also, is it true that the mod is dead? The revolutions version was never released so I never got to contribute. Ah well.
 
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I can upload it. Wannabe Tartar gave me the whole thing. I was wishing he would combine the two and maybe even re start some small work on it :rofl: Oh well... Here is where the original can be found 1815 Keep in mind the original isn't even for the 1.04 patch, let alone Revolutions.
 
I've only read the first 11 pages, but has anyone talked about Egypt? At the time, Egypt was stronger than the OE, with a rapidly increasing textile industry and an army of nearly 800K. It was because of the manipulations of France, Austria, and the UK that they were in the weak state they were, during the first Ottoman-Egyptian war, the Egyptians had occupied the whole middle east and were in Anatolia.
 
Sorry, i'm from Argentina and my english is not good. Could you tell me something of argentina in this mod? Has many events? And some questions, when is the finish date of this mod? and is compatible with the VIP for revolutions?
Thanks you! :rolleyes:
 
Wait...I am a bit confused. Is there any way that this mod will be compatible with ricky, I just got a great, (or at least I think so anyway) idea for an AAR involving the greek revolution and need a mod like this for it to come true.

I would love to help but have no idea about anything involving modding.

Thanks