Andrelvis said:
Either that, or after the death of Mehmet Ali they should become uncivilized.
True. And I finally have the Ottomans a bit in place, and their performs varies as it is already, so I rather leave things as they are at this stage.
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Either that, or after the death of Mehmet Ali they should become uncivilized.
True. And I finally have the Ottomans a bit in place, and their performs varies as it is already, so I rather leave things as they are at this stage.
I like this mod very much
I noticed a few things when I was playing Spain though.
She starts without any tranports and only 5 clippers (needs abour 200 for the entire empire). Perhaps it should be increased a bit, atleast to 20 clippers at startup.
Once Venezuela and Argentina has been subdued there is absolutly no revolts at all in South America, perhaps there should be some junta events that sparks some revolts there.
Patagonia has colonization by Argentina even when there is no Argentina, I suggest a 'exist = ARG' command in the triggers.
The cultures lost in the civilwar never gets returned and Spain becomes flagless since there is no royalist flag. There isn't any badboy removing commands either. Instead of using annex and prestige reduction and badboy reduction and the like, wouldn't it be better to use secede state/provinces commands? Then the prestige gain wouldn't be so high and the reductions could be taken out.
What do you think about converting an amount of the Mexicans/South Andeans/Creoles etc. if Spain manages to keep everything intact?
Only a few percentage of the population to simulate those who were still loyal to Spain.
I noticed a few things when I was playing Spain though.
She starts without any tranports and only 5 clippers (needs abour 200 for the entire empire). Perhaps it should be increased a bit, atleast to 20 clippers at startup.
Once Venezuela and Argentina has been subdued there is absolutly no revolts at all in South America, perhaps there should be some junta events that sparks some revolts there.
Patagonia has colonization by Argentina even when there is no Argentina, I suggest a 'exist = ARG' command in the triggers.
The cultures lost in the civilwar never gets returned and Spain becomes flagless since there is no royalist flag. There isn't any badboy removing commands either. Instead of using annex and prestige reduction and badboy reduction and the like, wouldn't it be better to use secede state/provinces commands? Then the prestige gain wouldn't be so high and the reductions could be taken out.
What do you think about converting an amount of the Mexicans/South Andeans/Creoles etc. if Spain manages to keep everything intact?
Only a few percentage of the population to simulate those who were still loyal to Spain.
Glad that you like it.
As for spain, the main reason why they have very few transports is because otherwise they can build transports and ferry there troops. Also I don't think that Spain actually gained very much from it's colonies around this time. Perhaps the amount should be increased a little bit, but they certainly won't get 200 clippers, even Britain has less as that.
Will fix the situation with Argentina.
As for the Spanish Civil War, I forgot to include the flag for the royalists
o If you're desperate for it, rename the carlist flag to royalist, that should solve it.
The cultures, I'm not entirely sure if this was intendent or just a small oversight.
The pops in South America haven't been reworked yet. But I think there should be some Spanish clergy and aristocrats, perhaps even officers in South America. Weren't creoles Europeans, but born in the colonies? Then perhaps instead of giving Spain Catalan and Basque back, we could give them creole instead. Although that might make conquering the caribbean very attractive.
I'll rework the surrender events, so Spain won't get hugh amounts of prestige anymore.
Thanks for the feedback, Sleepyhead
As for spain, the main reason why they have very few transports is because otherwise they can build transports and ferry there troops. Also I don't think that Spain actually gained very much from it's colonies around this time. Perhaps the amount should be increased a little bit, but they certainly won't get 200 clippers, even Britain has less as that.
Will fix the situation with Argentina.
As for the Spanish Civil War, I forgot to include the flag for the royalists
o If you're desperate for it, rename the carlist flag to royalist, that should solve it.The cultures, I'm not entirely sure if this was intendent or just a small oversight.
The pops in South America haven't been reworked yet. But I think there should be some Spanish clergy and aristocrats, perhaps even officers in South America. Weren't creoles Europeans, but born in the colonies? Then perhaps instead of giving Spain Catalan and Basque back, we could give them creole instead. Although that might make conquering the caribbean very attractive.
I'll rework the surrender events, so Spain won't get hugh amounts of prestige anymore.
Thanks for the feedback, Sleepyhead
I only suggested a little bitWannabe Tatar said:
I think it would be best to have converting events if Spain suceeds to keep them, otherwise you need to have one event each for the new nations, which is a bit unnecessary IMHO.Wannabe Tatar said:
Don't forget to remove those prestige reduction ones as wellWannabe Tatar said:
Also when you inherit them, you get all their divisions, perhaps before they surrender they get an event where some of the army gets deleted, some gets turned into rebels and the rest decides to serve Spain?
Sleepyhead said:I think it would be best to have converting events if Spain suceeds to keep them, otherwise you need to have one event each for the new nations, which is a bit unnecessary IMHO.
Don't forget to remove those prestige reduction ones as well
Also when you inherit them, you get all their divisions, perhaps before they surrender they get an event where some of the army gets deleted, some gets turned into rebels and the rest decides to serve Spain?
Are you sure about that? If the pop numbers are small enough they'll get assimilated, at least in Texas a lot of cultures seem to disappear when Mexico becomes independent.
IIRC you've to fully occupy them for the surrender event to fire, so it seems logical that most of their army is already defeated, but I could be wrong.
Pops above 10000 never assimilates afaik.Wannabe Tatar said:
Only the capitals for Argentina and Venezuela. Perhaps that should change instead?Wannabe Tatar said:
Sleepyhead said:
Who said I would make pops of more as 10000 aristocrats, clergy and officers in South America? I wanted at most pops of 1000 or perhaps 2000 in the big cities (Mexico, Guatamala, Bogota, Quito, La Paz, Lima and Santiago)
Oh you mean that one, I thought you were still talking about the Spanish Civil War. Then I'll add an occupied trigger to it.
From my own experience, rich class pops have never assimilated, and middle class ones are harder to than poor class ones. About the creoles - they were black slaves, I think you meant the criollos, descendants of the spanish in the Americas. Btw, are you planning adding any new inventions? I specially liked Steam Powered Printing Press for the flavor it gave.
I'll give it a try, otherwise they will just be Mexican/central american/andean/creole. As for the Creole:
At this stage, no. Cause I've no idea what can be used for inventions. Although I assume it must be boring to wait for inventions to fire. If you have any idea, then let me know and I'll add it. There is still much work to be done. Including reworking the Brazilian Independence events
Wikipedia said:
At this stage, no. Cause I've no idea what can be used for inventions. Although I assume it must be boring to wait for inventions to fire. If you have any idea, then let me know and I'll add it. There is still much work to be done. Including reworking the Brazilian Independence events
You're right, Creole can refer to that. But the Vicky culture Creole means black slaves.
As for inventions, I have a few ideas:
*Cotton Gin: +10% cotton plantation efficiency - Mechanical Production
*Spinning Jenny: +5% fabric factory efficiency - Mechanical Production
*Safety Lamp: +5% coal mine efficiency - Don't know, maybe Basic Chemistry?
*Feed Grasses: +10% cattle ranch efficiency - Don't know, maybe Basic Chemistry?
*Seed Drill: +5% grain farm efficiency - Mechanical Production
Also, there are two 'Machine Tools' (one of vanilla Vicky, one new) inventions... maybe one could have it's name changed?
As for inventions, I have a few ideas:
*Cotton Gin: +10% cotton plantation efficiency - Mechanical Production
*Spinning Jenny: +5% fabric factory efficiency - Mechanical Production
*Safety Lamp: +5% coal mine efficiency - Don't know, maybe Basic Chemistry?
*Feed Grasses: +10% cattle ranch efficiency - Don't know, maybe Basic Chemistry?
*Seed Drill: +5% grain farm efficiency - Mechanical Production
Also, there are two 'Machine Tools' (one of vanilla Vicky, one new) inventions... maybe one could have it's name changed?
Andrelvis said:
Ok, thanks for clearing that up.
Great suggestions, but shouldn't safety lamp also increase other mines? Like 5% Iron mine, 2% sulphur, 2% precious metal.
Yes, Machine Tools should be renamed. I just copied and pasted it and adjusted the triggers so machine part factories are more efficient as in 1815.
Wannabe, you may want to check out the dates of those inventions, as at least two of them occurred before 1815. Cotton Gin and Seed Drill.
As for the Creole culture, you can have it mean anything you wish, it is not limited, so it can be modded to represent anything desired culturally.
Cheers, Thorgrimm
As for the Creole culture, you can have it mean anything you wish, it is not limited, so it can be modded to represent anything desired culturally.
Cheers, Thorgrimm
Wannabe Tatar said:
From wikipedia:
I don't know if sulphur is flammable, but if it is, the safety lamp should apply to it too.
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Thorgrimm said:
You're right, they were, and the spinning jenny too. The thing is they are all early industrial inventions, so I thought they would fit in, as the steam powered printing press is earlier too, from 1812.
Yes, sulphur is flammable, at least according to Wikipedia:
To be honest I don't have problems with earlier inventions firing between 1815-1836, since I don't know what happened in that time. We can always balance it by decreasing the starting efficiencies.
To be honest I don't have problems with earlier inventions firing between 1815-1836, since I don't know what happened in that time. We can always balance it by decreasing the starting efficiencies.
Wannbe, well I just let you know that, for I thought you wished to combine mods? As I was going to include those for inventions in the pre 1815 portion. Let me know if you still wish to combine our efforts.
Cheers, Thorgrimm
As I was going to include those for inventions in the pre 1815 portion. Let me know if you still wish to combine our efforts. Cheers, Thorgrimm
Thorgrimm said:Wannbe, well I just let you know that, for I thought you wished to combine mods?
Cheers, Thorgrimm
Uhmm, that would make it a bit more difficult. But then again, we talked only about tags, not about cultures, economy and technology.
I'll look into some possible invention ideas aswell. I just finished reworking part of the Brazilian independence sequence.
EDIT: By the way, I can still use those inventions, if they have the same id and effects they can be used in my mod as well. Also I found two other possible inventions: The reaper was patented in 1830 and the continous still (1830 too) provided "cleaner" whiskey and gin
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Wannabe Tatar said:
Then they should be included in the safety lamp, perhaps? I dunno, but the article said specifically coal-mines but logically it should apply to sulphur mines too. But maybe normal lamps wouldn't have any problems in sulphur mines, as the lamps would be away from the sulphur and if it does not have flammable gases there it shouldn't be a problem. Argh I'm confused by this one
Hmm, that's true, too many inventions increasing efficiency can unbalance the game.
It would be great if both mods would combine or atleast be compatible! I just love that early industrial period
Btw, I have scripted some of the inventions:
I didn't script the safety lamp and feed grasses as I didn't know what technology to put them in
Btw, about the steam powered printing press, it doesn't require practical steam engine at all... Maybe make it require either practical steam engine or mechanical production?
Btw, I have scripted some of the inventions:
Code:
#########################################################################
# Cotton Gin
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 565
random = no
invention = yes
trigger = {
technology = 5102
}
picture = mechanisation
name = "Cotton Gin"
desc = " "
style = 0
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1815 }
offset = 60 # Check for trigger conditions every 60 days
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 9999 }
action_a = {
name = "OK" # Excellent!
command = { type = production_modifier which = cotton_plantation value = 10 }
}
}
#########################################################################
# Spinning Jenny
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 566
random = no
invention = yes
trigger = {
technology = 5102
}
picture = mechanisation
name = "Spinning Jenny"
desc = " "
style = 0
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1815 }
offset = 60 # Check for trigger conditions every 60 days
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 9999 }
action_a = {
name = "OK" # Excellent!
command = { type = production_modifier which = fabric_factory value = 5 }
}
}
#########################################################################
# Seed Drill
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 567
random = no
invention = yes
trigger = {
technology = 5102
}
picture = mechanisation
name = "Seed Drill"
desc = " "
style = 0
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1815 }
offset = 60 # Check for trigger conditions every 60 days
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 9999 }
action_a = {
name = "OK" # Excellent!
command = { type = production_modifier which = grain_farm value = 5 }
}
}I didn't script the safety lamp and feed grasses as I didn't know what technology to put them in
Btw, about the steam powered printing press, it doesn't require practical steam engine at all... Maybe make it require either practical steam engine or mechanical production?