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Would it be no big deal to add any of these nations as well?
http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?t=469602

Currently we have a large number of potential revolters already, most of them never used. I feel properly implementing Kurdistan, Indonesia or Morocco adds more to the game than Sikkim or Newfoundland.

Could you then add the same general twice? Lets take Patton, first have him as both #'s 100 and 200. So whenever he is slept, you sleep the 1st one. Then after said civil war, and its his time to "rejoin" you simply wake #200 instead of #100? Let me know if you understand what i mean, just an idea -Leon

Thats a nice idea you have there. I will keep it in mind when working on the states (1.3 will finally have some presidential elections after the war).
 
I think not only CSA. Qing Empire, India and Italy should have more leaders after they have reunited. They have a lot of IC but lack of leaders....
 
Yes, that would be a big deal. Altering the history of Kaiserreich and changing the mod.
Plus, honestly, these nations feel useless to me. Tuva can be liberated by Mongolia under Russian pression.

Ah, but that's the point of it. Adding nations that would otherwise be ignored by history, for the sake of flavor. If Bhutan is independent in this timeline, why not Sikkim? Why not Pondicherry or Goa?

Currently we have a large number of potential revolters already, most of them never used. I feel properly implementing Kurdistan, Indonesia or Morocco adds more to the game than Sikkim or Newfoundland.

The idea would be to see how butterflies have reverberated and thoroughly changed up this world, even creating new small states out of the detritus of alternate political conditions. More post-WWI states.
 
Ah, but that's the point of it. Adding nations that would otherwise be ignored by history, for the sake of flavor. If Bhutan is independent in this timeline, why not Sikkim? Why not Pondicherry or Goa?



The idea would be to see how butterflies have reverberated and thoroughly changed up this world, even creating new small states out of the detritus of alternate political conditions. More post-WWI states.

The thing is... Quality vs quantity. Lot's of nation = less events. Less nations = More events.
 
I think not only CSA. Qing Empire, India and Italy should have more leaders after they have reunited. They have a lot of IC but lack of leaders....

Would the CSA really wan't Patton or MacArthur fighting for them? Or would those chaps wish to fight for communism? A member of the Raj fighting for syndie Bengal? Or Shangqing cultists fighting for the Emperor?

Many of the conflicts you speak of (China, India, USA) are clashes of firebrand ideologies and many commanders would support one side heart and soul. We are always on the lookout for new commanders to add, but adding commanders who just lost a civil war? Perhaps some USA -> AUS or backwards, but in all other cases I see no plausible switches.

The thing is... Quality vs quantity. Lot's of nation = less events. Less nations = More events.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Besides, many of these microstats would just be gobbled up by some of their less than scrupulous neighbours.
 
Tuva can be liberated by Mongolia under Russian pression.
The Soviets had to put down a 1924 Tuvan rebellion in which the rebels wanted to join Mongolia in OTL, and Mongolia itself actively tried to annex Tuva which was silenced due to Soviet pressure and a land concession (Darkhad valley). Most Tuvan politicians in the 20's wanted Tuva to be a part of Mongolia (because they saw themselves as basically Mongols). It wouldn't be made independent by any Mongol state if given the choice, it'd be annexed. The Tuvan People's Republic was pretty much an artificial creation as the area had been a Tsarist protectorate beforehand.
 
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In fact Tannu Tuva is annexed at the start of the scenario. In case of war or as pressions to regain control of the Transiberian railroad under Mongolian control, Russia can make Mongolia release Tannu Tuva. It's a way for the Russians to make Mongolia weaker.
 
We now got a new forum posted in the first post. (Exactly on the same place as the old one was)
 
Would the CSA really wan't Patton or MacArthur fighting for them? Or would those chaps wish to fight for communism? A member of the Raj fighting for syndie Bengal? Or Shangqing cultists fighting for the Emperor?

Many of the conflicts you speak of (China, India, USA) are clashes of firebrand ideologies and many commanders would support one side heart and soul. We are always on the lookout for new commanders to add, but adding commanders who just lost a civil war? Perhaps some USA -> AUS or backwards, but in all other cases I see no plausible switches.
Princely Federation <-> Delhi, perhaps? After all, they can be joined *peacefully* in certain circumstances.
 
Would the CSA really wan't Patton or MacArthur fighting for them? Or would those chaps wish to fight for communism? A member of the Raj fighting for syndie Bengal? Or Shangqing cultists fighting for the Emperor?

Many of the conflicts you speak of (China, India, USA) are clashes of firebrand ideologies and many commanders would support one side heart and soul. We are always on the lookout for new commanders to add, but adding commanders who just lost a civil war? Perhaps some USA -> AUS or backwards, but in all other cases I see no plausible switches.



Couldn't have said it better myself. Besides, many of these microstats would just be gobbled up by some of their less than scrupulous neighbours.

I know this problem.... But I think that this is ok in China:rofl:



I think something will be happen when Qing Empire defeated Transamur, the puppet of Japanese. Will Qing rule the Transamur that they had ceded to Russia in 1860 or give it back to russia? what will they do with Alexander Kolchak?
 
Oh, has anyone thought about a event for a European Socialist Union or something? Because, when CoF invades Germany, there Ukraine, and UBD, and those eastern states that get annexed. Then Norway, Spain, Italy, can all become Socialist. Maybe like a European Integration? (Syndicalist style?) In like 1945, when everyone's rebuilding, etc?
 
I know this problem.... But I think that this is ok in China:rofl:



I think something will be happen when Qing Empire defeated Transamur, the puppet of Japanese. Will Qing rule the Transamur that they had ceded to Russia in 1860 or give it back to russia? what will they do with Alexander Kolchak?

For 1.3 we hope to tie most loose ends still in our game. The expansion of the Chinese states is one ofthe things we will look at.

Oh, has anyone thought about a event for a European Socialist Union or something? Because, when CoF invades Germany, there Ukraine, and UBD, and those eastern states that get annexed. Then Norway, Spain, Italy, can all become Socialist. Maybe like a European Integration? (Syndicalist style?) In like 1945, when everyone's rebuilding, etc?

I doubt such a union could ever be a succes. It required two devastating wars and the threat of the Soviet Union for the European States to even think of cooperating with eachother. A forced cooperation just after a devastated and ideologically charged war in a time where nationalism still rules would be the biggest mistake the Commune could ever make IMO.
 
I doubt such a union could ever be a succes. It required two devastating wars and the threat of the Soviet Union for the European States to even think of cooperating with eachother. A forced cooperation just after a devastated and ideologically charged war in a time where nationalism still rules would be the biggest mistake the Commune could ever make IMO.
Still sounds awesome! :cool:
 
Still sounds awesome! :cool:

In order to make the scenario a bit more balanced, one could have it set up so that once Communist France becomes the European Communal Federation through post-war events, pan-federation independence movements sprout up all over the place the moment dissent hits, say, 10%. Once any country declares independence from the French-led federation, a flag is set, let's call it EURO_CHAOS, that triggers the independence events for Austria, Hungary, Bohemia-Moravia, Slovakia, Croatia, Bosnia, Ukraine, Belarus, Germany/the German states, Denmark, Switzerland, Poland, Serbia, Romania, Greece, Bulgaria, Belgium, Netherlands, Lithuania and Livland within the next week or two. It'd be fun seeing whether France could fend off an assault from all of an extremely-irritated, freshly-independent Europe at once, especially considering that a good number of her divisions would be trapped WELL behind enemy lines... It's be like the Revolutions of 1848 all over again, except much more violent.

And then, once France/the Federation is defeated, the alliance between all the rebel nations would be dissolved via event, and the countries would have to look at one another and say, "alright, what do we do now?". Much like the aftermath of the Yugoslav wars, there'd be many territorial disputes due to the nature of how all these nations were reborn. The continent might even tear itself apart in a nationalist fervour despite having united against the Syndicalist French just months prior.
 
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I think for now we should focus on fleshing out existing nations before going on an making new super-states that will only serve a post-game flavor.

ATM just the events for the CoF or other syndie power (or even the Entente) to redraw the map of Europe with new borders would be better. There are already a number of this for the CoF as it rolls through Europe, so just expand upon that for now.
 
What is the difference between Austro-Hungary and Danubian Federation except leaders and ministers? What will happen after they established?