Kaiserreich: Legacy of the Weltkrieg - Global Alternate History Mod for HOI2

Sarmatia1871 · Feb 15, 2006

T-hiddemen said:
fixed!

Very good!

Gen.Schuermann · Feb 15, 2006

a very nice nice for alternate warships!!

http://www.geocities.com/alt_naval/index.htm

Juancho · Feb 15, 2006

Wow four pages in 36 hours, it will take a while to read
first:

Yeah, it did seem likely that besides reasons of national prestige (which was often tied to the production of uselessly big battleships in the pre-war period), there wouldn't be much real point for ever-increasingly large ships - especially if you're saying that they can't really be built!

(Out of interest and showing my complete lack of knowledge of all things naval - would these H-Class Battleships be bigger than carriers, and if not, how did Germany plan to build carriers in real life?)

However, I suppose you could attempt to have some rationale for developing huge gunned battleships to act as super-diplomatic gunboats -> So, more designed to threaten coastal cities with bombardment, than to actually be used in naval warfare...

I'm not really saying they can't be build, I'm saying that no player would try building them. Just like in vanilla, most people say it's better to build Carriers, and AC. than to build superBB's.

They where several designs, H-39 to H-44 every design was bigger, better armed longer, etc, most were never really planned to build, H44 was going to be bigger than any port facility that germany had, I think H44 was going to be as big as the Nimitz-class carrier.

All I'm saying is BB's should be bigger and would be VERY bad to lose one. worse than vanila, that they cost more, and that could give you a couple of events for GER to modernize your fleet, and build the next 4 BB's (the ones that would correspond to this decade), that would decrease your investment in other areas. Also, every admiralty would want one, military establishment is very traditional, adopting new ideas is easy to officers but very hard to change the way old almirals think, and those are the ones that really control the navy's.

Regarding even bigger battleships I have a rabidly drooling small Wilhelm II on my left shoulder and a little Tirpitz who is rubbing his hands in glee on my right shoulder, so...

Wotan-class! Wotan-class! Wotan-class!

^^that's exactly what I'm thinking.

#1227 :

Here's some ideas generaly speaking on the german and french doctrines and the background on what lead to their development...

WOW

cool, needed a while to read that, it sounds great.

The germans later on get techs that I practicaly stole from the vanilla US doctrines, so they will get more combined arms later on. In the start the have some units which could be considered mechanized - 3 Cav/AC, 1 Inf/AC and 1 tank division.

French doctrine goes from wide front attacks to the fine-tuning of the armored breakthrough and the 'fanning-out' that follows it, evolving into a practice where the mechanized divisions are made out of brigades capable of independent operations.

^^Excelent

T-hiddemen's Wotan 14x18" guns

can you imagine the bang!!

Eddit: comas and removed a little line that I was not to sure about.

Juancho · Feb 15, 2006

Gen.Schuermann said:
a very nice nice for alternate warships!!

http://www.geocities.com/alt_naval/index.htm

It does not work for me

"Sorry, this GeoCities site is currently unavailable."
What was in there?

unmerged(43870) · Feb 15, 2006

Juancho said:
It does not work for me
"Sorry, this GeoCities site is currently unavailable."
What was in there?

It just worked for me, lots of pics of proposed ships, partially built classes, fictional ships, etc

Evans · Feb 15, 2006

T-hiddemen said:
It just worked for me, lots of pics of proposed ships, partially built classes, fictional ships, etc

Didn't work for me... You'll have to be the researcher there it seems...

unmerged(52425) · Feb 15, 2006

For the record, I've been toying with an idea for a "Kaiserreichdämmerung/Iron Dusk" mod which would be start in 1946...the final confrontation between new and old, tradition and mass movements, diffrent perceptions of freedom and autocracy in a world where the superpowers of our time are nothing but splintered states where proxy wars are fought...Syndicalists vs Mitteleuropa vs Union of Democratic Asia...

Carriers wither under deadly fire from Wotan II class Floating Fortresses, the skies are contested by the aged thermojet fighters and new rocket/jet fighters and the land war is waged by mech...anized troops and highly advanced light and heavy tanks!

o

But that is just that, toying.

unmerged(43870) · Feb 15, 2006

CCurio said:
For the record, I've been toying with an idea for a "Kaiserreichdämmerung/Iron Dusk" mod which would be start in 1946...the final confrontation between new and old, tradition and mass movements, diffrent perceptions of freedom and autocracy in a world where the superpowers of our time are nothing but splintered states where proxy wars are fought...Syndicalists vs Mitteleuropa vs Union of Democratic Asia...

o

Could serve as the middle part of the trilogy, with the last part being the pscyhedelic Sixth Reich sixties with lots of Mahakala incarnations, Himmler International Man of Mystery, Kolchak the Nightstalker, etc, maybe Kaiserreich IV can be a retired Hitler spawning a late life career as a disco dancer, or tv dance show host ala Dick Clarke in the 70's . . . . :rofl:

Evans · Feb 15, 2006

unmerged(52425) · Feb 15, 2006

Thank you Evans.

The "scw20" would make a perfect tech pic for the first tech in the french tree, shame it's so small though...

unmerged(43870) · Feb 15, 2006

T-hiddemen said:
Could serve as the middle part of the trilogy, with the last part being the pscyhedelic Sixth Reich sixties with lots of Mahakala incarnations, Himmler International Man of Mystery, Kolchak the Nightstalker, etc, maybe Kaiserreich IV can be a retired Hitler spawning a late life career as a disco dancer, or tv dance show host ala Dick Clarke in the 70's . . . . :rofl:

This is probably more suited to the Photoshop thread but I could not resist. After his 70's disco comeback, Wolfi thrills teens across the globe with his starring role in Saturday Night Fever . . .

Ayeshteni · Feb 15, 2006

T-hiddemen said:
Could serve as the middle part of the trilogy, with the last part being the pscyhedelic Sixth Reich sixties with lots of Mahakala incarnations, Himmler International Man of Mystery, Kolchak the Nightstalker, etc, maybe Kaiserreich IV can be a retired Hitler spawning a late life career as a disco dancer, or tv dance show host ala Dick Clarke in the 70's . . . . :rofl:

my head just exploded.

Ayeshteni

Gen.Schuermann · Feb 15, 2006

Omg!

Evans · Feb 15, 2006

CCurio said:
Thank you Evans.

The "scw20" would make a perfect tech pic for the first tech in the french tree, shame it's so small though...

How'd you mean, that the tech team pics are small?

unmerged(52425) · Feb 15, 2006

Evans said:
How'd you mean, that the tech team pics are small?

Not a tech team pic, a tech pic that shows up when you research the tech. They're larger than that.

Evans · Feb 15, 2006

CCurio said:
Not a tech team pic, a tech pic that shows up when you research the tech. They're larger than that.

Ahh... hmm i'll see if i can blow it up at all and keep quality... or amalgamate it with another

unmerged(52425) · Feb 15, 2006

Evans said:
Ahh... hmm i'll see if i can blow it up at all and keep quality... or amalgamate it with another

Ah, thanks.

Evans · Feb 15, 2006

Don't think it'll happen...

Not sure on the exact dimensions you need either

I could try making a collage?

unmerged(52425) · Feb 15, 2006

Evans said:
Don't think it'll happen... Not sure on the exact dimensions you need either

I could try making a collage?

Thanks for trying, but I'll settle for this:

Meanwhile...infantry with tanks (preferably riding on them

) and various german infantry could be preferable...

I think I'll poke around more with this mod soon, now, shower. :rofl:

Sarmatia1871 · Feb 15, 2006

CCurio said:
For the record, I've been toying with an idea for a "Kaiserreichdämmerung/Iron Dusk" mod which would be start in 1946...the final confrontation between new and old, tradition and mass movements, diffrent perceptions of freedom and autocracy in a world where the superpowers of our time are nothing but splintered states where proxy wars are fought...Syndicalists vs Mitteleuropa vs Union of Democratic Asia...

Carriers wither under deadly fire from Wotan II class Floating Fortresses, the skies are contested by the aged thermojet fighters and new rocket/jet fighters and the land war is waged by mech...anized troops and highly advanced light and heavy tanks!

o

But that is just that, toying.

Yep - all this is definitely a possibility for Doomsday!

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