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@ Servant, the link you've posted doesn't link to a solution.

@ Keioel, I will look into it, but it isn't on top of my to-do list as the current system works.

@ Jedrek, feel free to toy around with the techtree.

@ Awesomefooty, Australasia has one major chain starting in 1937/1938 or so. It revolves around the murder of governor Bruce and the possible political fallout afterwards. Australasia can become syndie, democratic, authoritarian or even national populist afterwards. Even a foreign coup (Japan, Germany) can take place. Or New Zealand can rebel.
Further there is an event where the king flees to Australia is Canada falls.

Thats it though.
 
@ secretalex125

I will look into China when I have the time. I agree they could use some work, but just giving cores on all of China to all of them? The problem is that none of the governments have the authority to rule all of china: the Qing are seen as German puppets and relics from the past, the nationalists will have to fight for survival against the AlgOstAsien, the Shanqing are mad cultists and Fengtien are Japanese puppets. The other states are either petty warlords or foreigners. See the legitimacy-issues? The events for Qing represent them getting the acknowledgement of the population as a legitimate government.
I do agree other states need some of these too, but at the moment my codingpriorities lie elsewhere.

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Questions to all.

Question 1.

At the moment I am coding electionevents for the USA after the Civil War. They depend on the incumbent president (Garner, Curtis/Knox or MacArthur as temporary dictator). I am wondering if the following are plausible candidates:



1940 (civil war is usually over by then):

If Garner was incumbent

Democrats: Garner-Wallace
Republicans: Knox-Dewey

If Curtis/Knox was incumbent (Curtis dies in office)

Democrats: Wallace-Barkley
Republicans: Knox-Dewey

If Mac was dictator, but restored democracy:

Democrats: Wallace-Barkley
Republicans: MacArthur-Knox

1944

If Wallace or Garner is president
Democrats: Wallace-Harriman
Republicans: Taft-Bricker

If Knox/Dewey was president (Knox dies in offie
Democrats: Hull-Barkley
Republicans: Dewey-Bricker

If MacArthur was president
Democrats: Hull-Barkley
Republicans: MacArthur-King

These are just suggestions. Feel free to comment on them.

Question 2:

I am considering replacing the ingame Greek flag with this flag:

old-greek-flag.png


The flag above was the official flag of Greece at the time, even if the ingame flag was used more by the people as the above flag was closely associated with the monarchy. However, the world of Kaiserreich is much more grim and monarchial. Therefore I feel the flag above might be more appropriate.
 
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FlyingDutchie said:
I am considering replacing the ingame Greek flag with this flag:
old-greek-flag.png
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Fully agreed, that current flag was used as naval until 70s, and this flag fits well in the timeline.
 
@FlyingDutchie:

You're candidates are "top notch":cool:. As for question 2: The greek flag MUST be replaced!!! Speaking of greece, maybe there should be an event chain that makes it possible for Greece to re-institute the "Byzantine Empire" or something like that(Or "The Hellenic Empire", "Greater Hellas"?). That would of course depend on succes in the Balkan Wars that might lead to a renewal of the Megali-idea, and the Ottoman Empire weakened from the Arab Revolution.

Oh, and for 1948 elections I propose this:

If Wallace was president:

Democrats: Harriman, Lehman
Republicans: Bricker, Thurmond

If Taft:

Dem.: Barkley, J. Lister Hill(or Thurmond)
Rep.: Taft, Bricker

If Hull, Dewey or MacArthur:

Dem.: Barkley, J. Lister Hill(or Thurmond)
Rep.: Bricker, Leverett Saltonstall.

:)
 
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One quick question: which site do you advise for file-uploading purpose? I used to use Rapishare, but I'm not sure if it's still the best option avalible. ;) Once I upload the updated version of UoB events and the modified revolt.txt I'll commence some edits of the tech tree.
 
Jedrek said:
One quick question: which site do you advise for file-uploading purpose? I used to use Rapishare, but I'm not sure if it's still the best option avalible. ;) Once I upload the updated version of UoB events and the modified revolt.txt I'll commence some edits of the tech tree.
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Megaupload is not that bad;)
 
Uploaded a modified version of Syndicalist events, as well as a new revolt.txt to the Kaiserreich forum. Below are my proposed changes to the tech tree, for project leader's approval:

AIRCRAFT:
- Improved Turbojet Interceptor (#15010) component 3 (Air-to-Air Missile) type changed to Rocketry
- Supersonic Interceptor (#15020) component 3 (Air-to-Air Missile) type changed to Rocketry
- Improved Turbojet Fighter (#15040) component 3 (Air-to-Air Missile) type changed to Rocketry
- Supersonic Fighter (#15050) component 3 (Air-to-Air Missile) type changed to Rocketry
- Improved Turbojet Escort Fighter (#15070) component 3 (Air-to-Air Missile) type changed to Rocketry
- Supersonic Escort Fighter (#15080) component 3 (Air-to-Air Missile) type changed to Rocketry
- Turbojet Tactical BOmber (#15100) component 3 (FAE Bombs) type changed to Chemistry
- Improved Turbojet Tactical BOmber (#15110) component 3 (Improved FAE Bombs) type changed to Chemistry
- Turbojet CAS (#15120) component 3 (120 mm Cannon) type changed to Artillery
- Improved Turbojet CAS (#15130) component 3 (150mm Cannon) type changed to Artillery
- Basic Naval Bomber (#4190) component 3 (Naval Bomb Shells) type changed to Mechanics
- Improved Naval Bomber (#4200) component 3 (Airborne Torpedoes) type changed to Mechanics
- Advanced Naval Bomber (#4210) component 3 (Airborne Homing Torpedoes) type changed to Electronics
- Turbojet Naval Bomber (#15140) component 3 (Multiple Weapons Platform) type changed to General Equipment
- Improved Turbojet Naval Bomber (#15150) component 3 (Improved Multiple Weapons Platform) type chaned to General Equipment
- Basic Strategic Bomber (#4220) component 3 (Gyrostabilized Bombing Sights) type changed to Mechanics
- Advanced Strategic Bomber (#4240) component 3 (Payload Drop Computers) type changed to Electronics
- Turbojet Strategic Bomber (#15160) component 3 (Payload Racket Automatization) type changed to Mechanics
- Improved Turbojet Strategic Bomber (#15170) component 3 (Improved Payload Racket Automatization) type changed to Mechanics

ARMOR & ARTILLERY:
- Great War Tank (#2010) and Tankette (#2020) component 4 (Binoculars) type changed to General Equipment
- Early Tank (#2030) component 4 (Early Optical Sights) type changed to Mechanics
- Basic Light Tank (#2040), Basic Medium Tank (#2070) and Basic Heavy Tank (#2100) component 4 (Basic Optical Sights) type changed to Mechanics
- Improved Light Tank (#2050), Improved Medium Tank (#2080) and Improved Heavy Tank (#2110) component 4 (Improved Optical Sights) type changed to Mechanics
- Advanced Light Tank (#2060), Advanced Medium Tank (#2090) and Advanced Heavy Tank (#2120) component 4 (Advanced Optical Sights) type changed to Mechanics
- Basic Armored Car (#2150) and Improved Armored Car (#2160) component 4 (Mounter Field Glasses) type changed to General Equipment
- Early Tank Destroyer (#2170) components 3 (Solid Shell AP Ammo) type changed to General Equipment and 4 (Early Optical Sights) type changed to Mechanics
- Basic Tank Destroyer (#2180) component 4 (Basic Optical Sights) type changed to Mechanics
- Improved Tank Destroyer (#2190) component 4 (Improved Optical Sights) type changed to Mechanics
- Advanced Tank Destroyer (#2200) component 4 (Advanced Optical Sights) type changed to Mechanics
- Modern Tank Destroyer (#11020) component 1 (Anti-Tank Guided Missile) type changed to Rocketry
- Early Self-Propelled Artillery (#2220) component 4 (Basic Fire Control) type changed to Mechanics
- Basic Self-Propelled Artillery (#2230) component 4 (Improved Fire Control) type changed to Mechanics
- Great War Light Field Artillery (#2290) component 4 (Frontline Observes) type chaned to Training
- Great War Medium Field Artillery (#2300) component 4 (Forward Observer Group) type chaned to Training
- Great War Heavy Field Artillery (#2310) component 4 (Optical Rangefinder) type chaned to General Equipment
- Basic Field Artillery (#2330) component 4 (Basic Fire Control) type changed to Mechanics
- Improved Field Artillery (#2340) component 4 (Improved Fire Control) type changed to Mechanics
- Early Anti-Tank Artillery (#2400) components 3 (Solid Shell AP Ammo) type changed to General Equipment and 4 (Early Optical Sights) type changed to Mechanics
- Basic Anti-Tank Artillery (#2410) component 4 (Basic Optical Sights) type changed to Mechanics
- Improved Anti-Tank Artillery (#2420) component 4 (Improved Optical Sights) type changed to Mechanics
- Advanced Anti-Tank Artillery (#2430) component 4 (Advanced Optical Sights) type changed to Mechanics
- Advanced Static Anti-Air Artillery (#2490) component 3 (Radar Proximity Fuse) type changed to Electronics
- Semi-Modern Static Anti-Air Artillery (#2500) component 3 (Radar Proximity Fuse) type changed to Electronics
- Modern Static Anti-Air Artillery (#11080) components 1 (SAM) type changed to Rocketry and 3 (Improved Radar Proximity Fuse) type changed to Electronics
- Advanced Anti-Air Artillery Brigade (#2530) component 3 (Radar Proximity Fuse) type changed to Electronics
- Semi-Modern Anti-Air Artillery Brigade (#2540) component 3 (Radar Proximity Fuse) type changed to Electronics
- Modern Anti-Air Artillery Brigade (#11090) component 3 (Improved Radar Proximity Fuse) type changed to Electronics

INFANTRY:
- Great War Infantry Division (#1010) component 4 (Grenades and Mines) type changed to General Equipment
- Early Infantry Division (#1020) component 3 (Long Range Recon Battalion) type changed to Training
- Advanced Infantry Division (#1050) component 3 (Improved Long Range Recon Battalion) type changed to Training
- Basic Marine Division (#1060) component 1 (Forward Observers) type changed to Training
- Great War Cavalry Division (#1190) component 4 (Basic Signal Command System) changed to Training
- Early Cavalry Division (#1200) component 3 (Basic Long-Range Recon Battalion) changed to Training

NAVAL:
- Great War Destroyer (#3010) component 4 (Early ASW Equipment) changed to General Equipment
- Great War Light Cruiser (#3070) component 4 (Great War AA Equipment) changed to Naval Artillery
- Early Light Cruiser (#3080) component 4 (Early AA Equipment) changed to Naval Artillery
- Basic Light Cruiser (#3090) component 4 (Basic AA Equipment) changed to Naval Artillery
- Improved Light Cruiser (#3100) component 4 (Improved AA Equipment) changed to Naval Artillery
- Advanced Light Cruiser (#3110) component 4 (Advanced AA Equipment) changed to Naval Artillery
- Semi-Modern Light Cruiser (#3120) component 4 (Semi-Modern AA Equipment) changed to Naval Artillery
- Modern Light Cruiser (#12010) component 4 (Modern AA Equipment) changed to Rocketry
- Great War Heavy Cruiser (#3130) component 4 (Basic Surface Torpedo) changed to Naval Engineering
- Early Heavy Cruiser (#3140) component 4 (Improved Surface Torpedo) changed to Naval Engineering
- Basic Heavy Cruiser (#3150) component 4 (Advanced Surface Torpedo) changed to Naval Engineering
- Semi-Modern Heavy Cruiser (#3180) component 4 (Cruiser Ship-to-Ship Missiles) changed to Rocketry
- Modern Heavy Cruiser (#12020) component 4 (Improved Cruiser Ship-to-Ship Missiles) changed to Rocketry
- Great War Battlecruiser (#3190) component 4 (Basic Optical Rangefinder) changed to Mechanics
- Early Battlecruiser (#3200) component 4 (Improved Optical Rangefinder) changed to Mechanics
- Basic Battlecruiser (#3210) component 4 (Advanced Optical Rangefinder) changed to Mechanics
- Great War Battleship (#3250) component 4 (Basic Optical Rangefinder) changed to Mechanics
- Early Battleship (#3260) component 4 (Improved Optical Rangefinder) changed to Mechanics
- Basic Battleship (#3270) component 4 (Advanced Optical Rangefinder) changed to Mechanics
- Great War Carrier (#3320) components 3 (Sectional Flight Deck) changed to Naval Engineering and 4 (Great War Carrier Air Group) changed to Aeronautics
- Early Carrier (#3330) components 3 (Experimental Straight Flight Deck) changed to Naval Engineering and 4 (Early Carrier Air Group) changed to Aeronautics
- Basic Carrier (#3340) components 3 (Straight Flight Deck) changed to Naval Engineering and 4 (Basic Carrier Air Group) changed to Aeronautics
- Improved Carrier (#3350) components 3 (Armored Straight Flight Deck) changed to Naval Engineering and 4 (Improved Carrier Air Group) changed to Aeronautics
- Advanced Carrier (#3360) components 3 (Angled Flight Deck) changed to Naval Engineering and 4 (Advanced Carrier Air Group) changed to Aeronautics
- Heavy Advanced Carrier (#3370) components 3 (Armored Angled Flight Deck) changed to Naval Engineering and 4 (Heavy Advanced Carrier Air Group) changed to Aeronautics
- Super Heavy Advanced Carrier (#3380) components 3 (Armored Angled Flight Deck) changed to Naval Engineering and 4 (Super Heavy Advanced Carrier Air Group) changed to Aeronautics
- Semi-Moder Carrier (#3390) components 3 (Floating Airbase Deck) changed to Naval Engineering and 4 (Semi-Modern Carrier Air Group) changed to Aeronautics
- Modern Carrier (#12060) components 3 (Steam Powered Catapult) changed to Mechanics and 4 (Modern Carrier Air Group) changed to Aeronautics
- Dive Boat (#3400) component 4 (Diving RUdder) type changed to Naval Engineering
- Short Range Submarine (#3410) component 4 (Underwater Elevation Rudder) type changed to Naval Engineering
- Medium Range Sumbarine (#3420) component 4 (Submarine Diesel Engine) type changed to Naval Engineering
- Long Range Submarine (#3430) component 4 (Advanced Torpedo Chambers) type changed to Naval Engineering
- Electro Submarine (#3440) component 4 (Air Condition and Cooling System) type changed to Naval Engineering
- Modern Submarine (#3450) component 4 (Anti Radar Rubber Coating) type changed to Naval Engineering
- Early Light Carrier (#12100) components 3 (Merchant Aircraft Carrier Deck) changed to Naval Engineering and 4 (Merchant Carrier Aircraft) changed to Aeronautics
- Basic Light Carrier (#12110) components 3 (Straight Flight Deck) changed to Naval Engineering and 4 (Basic Light Carrier Aircraft Group) changed to Aeronautics
- Improved Light Carrier (#12120) components 3 (Armored Straight Flight Deck) changed to Naval Engineering and 4 (Improved Light Carrier Air Group) changed to Aeronautics
- Advanced Light Carrier (#12130) components 3 (Armored Straight Flight Deck) changed to Naval Engineering and 4 (Advanced Light Carrier Air Group) changed to Aeronautics
- Semi-Modern Light Carrier (#12140) components 3 (Angled Flight Deck) changed to Naval Engineering and 4 (Semi-Modern Light Carrier Air Group) changed to Aeronautics
- Modern Light Carrier (#12150) components 3 (Floating Airbase Deck) changed to Naval Engineering and 4 (Modern Light Carrier Air Group) changed to Aeronautics

SECRET WEAPONS:
- Improved Turbojet CAG (#7280) component 3 (Air-to-Air Missile) type changed to Rocketry
- Flying Bomb (#7100) components 1 (Clearing Routines) type changed to Training and 3 (Catapult Launch Tests) type changed to Rocketry
- Strategic Rocket (#7110) components 3 (Advanced All-Weather Tests) changed to Rocketry and 4 (Gyroscope Autopilot) type changed to Mechanics
- Ballistic Missile (#7120) components 1 (Advanced Clearing Routines) type changed to Training and 3 (Multi-Stage Test Flights) type changed to Rocketry
- ICBM (#7130) component 3 (Multi-Stage Ballistic Missile Test Flights) type changed to Rocketry
- Nuclear CV (#7220) component 4 (CV Modified Hull Construction) type changed to Naval Engineering
- Nuclear SS (#7240) component 4 (SS Modified Hull Construction) type changed to Naval Engineering
- Nuclear CA (#7210) component 4 (CA Modified Hull Construction) type changed to Naval Engineering
- ASM (#7260) component 2 (Air-to-Surface Wire Guidance) type changed to Electronics
- SAM (#7270) component 2 (Surface-to-Air Wire Guidance) type changed to Electronics
- Intercontinental Strategic Bomber (#16030) component 3 (Air-to-Air refueling) type changed to Aeronautics
 
I was thinking about the tech tree today - and I guess something should be done about the doctrines. Here are my thoughts:

-> Land doctrines should be slightly renamed. No Guderian = no Blitzkrieg, so it should be replaced either by an English variant, or by some more descriptive name.
-> Naval doctrines should recieve an overhaul. Without the III Reich, the Raider Tree has little reason to stay. On the other hand, with the battleships proving themselves in the Weltkrieg and at least four large fleets (German, Japanese, British and Canadian) present in 1936, a chance that the Fleet in Being doctrine would evolve into a more active battleship-focused doctrine seems pretty high.
-> Raiders could be split into two smaller, axullary trees, one for submarines and other for surface craft.
-> Air doctrines could be remodelled as they are in WiF, with a possibility to research fighter doctrines without having to research the first batch of bomber doctrines,
 
Jedrek said:
I was thinking about the tech tree today - and I guess something should be done about the doctrines. Here are my thoughts:

-> Land doctrines should be slightly renamed. No Guderian = no Blitzkrieg, so it should be replaced either by an English variant, or by some more descriptive name.
-> Naval doctrines should recieve an overhaul. Without the III Reich, the Raider Tree has little reason to stay. On the other hand, with the battleships proving themselves in the Weltkrieg and at least four large fleets (German, Japanese, British and Canadian) present in 1936, a chance that the Fleet in Being doctrine would evolve into a more active battleship-focused doctrine seems pretty high.
-> Raiders could be split into two smaller, axullary trees, one for submarines and other for surface craft.
-> Air doctrines could be remodelled as they are in WiF, with a possibility to research fighter doctrines without having to research the first batch of bomber doctrines,
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1. "Blitz warfare" or "Force Combination warfare"
2 and 3. I like the idea, though, others would have been proponents for raider tactics in the Kaiserreich timeline. Hyman H. Rickover, Hugh Mulzac, Nimitz and Fluckey, Harry DeWolf(We'll stave the Union into submission! ROWL!") would probably lobby for the path the navy of the III. Reich took OTL.

Cheers:) And btw, I love your "second congress" events!
 
Good work on the revised techtree Jedrek, we will definetly be including it.

Few pointers on the doctrines:

- Guderian is still around and fighting for his doctrines. After Von Seecks death one possible outcome is Guderians young guard taking charge of the armed forces. Therefore I suggest keeping that name as it is.

- As for the naval doctrines, UoB, Japan and the USA are switching to carriers and even Canada and Germany have them. The battleship is still there, but will probably be replaced during the war. As for the raiders, perhaps it is a good doctrine for the Commune? No way that they can gain parity with the Germans, so why not try to starve Germany of valuable materials (large problem during WW1)?
 
The techtree files are uploaded on the Kaiserreich forum. Looks like there's little to do with the industrial techtree, and I don't feel like rebuilding the doctrines.

As for the land doctrines - OK, I surrender. Never played the German Kaiserreich game, but I've never seen Guderian becoming a minister, so I guessed he is not a prominent figure in this timeline. BTW - is it possible to make Richthofen a HoG?

Still, I'm missing the decentralised HoI1-style doctrine techtree, without the abstract division into three separate trees (Why the hell should I research carrier doctrines if I'm planning to have a small, CA-based navy?!). Instead, I'd insert a number of separate trees, each focused on a different class or tactic. Thus a player would have an opportunity to specialise in a certain field of navy (for example, raider cruisers) or create an all-round navy, with balanced approach but not excelling in any particular field.

And one more thing - how to deal with tech components that appear in multiple technologies (7,62 mm MGs for example, that appear in all basic-level fighters)? Should their skill level be redued (to reflect that there's no need to research them all over again, but merely adapt them to a new construction) or some other way would be more realistic? I'm also thinking about unifying difficulty levels for technologies sharing the same name (Optican Sights for light, medium and heavy tanks for example), since mechanism stays the same, no matter the tank planned - what matters is the adaptation. What do you think about that?
 
Jedrek said:
As for the land doctrines - OK, I surrender. Never played the German Kaiserreich game, but I've never seen Guderian becoming a minister, so I guessed he is not a prominent figure in this timeline. BTW - is it possible to make Richthofen a HoG?
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He does'nt become a minister because of his "simple background", but is still one of the leading proponents for the use of combined forces. von Seydlitz-Kurzbach is the "official" head of this faction within the army due to his aristocratic background, but Guderian is still a prominent general.
 
I'll keep this in mind in case I wanted to play Germany. Thanks :)

FlyingDutchie what do you think about my idea? Should I try to make up a prototype naval doctrine tree, or you want to stick with the vanilla one and focus on events and database stuff?
 
There are no events for further congresses. I was thinking about placing the Third Congress in Naples, but I don't think I'll include yet another event chain in my UoB AAR - it's time to advance to the Second Great War, not to lag in game's first years ;)
 
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