Kaiserreich: Legacy of the Weltkrieg - Global Alternate History Mod for HOI2

[Meadow]

So... here's the chat so far:

- My flag is supported by some (yay)
- The question of the post-Weltkrieg II events has resurfaced
- The complete France puppet has had a number of names suggested, including Frankreich, Westfrankenstaat and Frankstaat
- Some of these names are apparently unrealistic, though Westfrankenstaat seems the most popular so far
- There has been a suggestion to use the DDR tag (currently used, I believe, for the Leftist political party in Germany) for a 'united Syndicalist Germany with a bit less territory' revolter that the Commune can release after the war instead of the illogical 'release Rhineland and occupy the rest' option

Any suggestions for leaders, flags and names for this 'Syndie Germany'? Personally I like the Four-state solution but as that will always be an option (and I think it should remain highly-weighted in the AI chances of selection if this event does get modified) I'm happy to see an alternative united Germany alongside it. 'German Syndicalist Republic'? 'German Socialist Confederation'?

[KaiserMuffin]

Deutsche Syndikalist Staat... for a DE lang name
or Combiné Syndicat Allemands (lol CSA!) for a French one.

And the main argument was just that the empire would not particularly enjoy sharing europe with another realm. There is das Reich ,and that is the Kaiserreich - there can be no other reference per se. Frankenstaat works, but the Carolus Magnus allusion brings the German Hegemony over the new 'France' to a historic level of over 1000 years ago 'You were always ours, remember?' sort of thing.

[Ryke]

or Combiné Syndicat Allemands (lol CSA!) for a French one.

That would be Syndicats Combinés Allemands, actually, and it sounds pretty awkward. =P

I don't think we have to use a French name for Syndicalist Germany. Unlike the Kaiserreich, the French are probably content to set up a regime of German Syndicalists allied to them and let them take care of their business.

[Azzinoth104]

Funny you should mention AOD compatibility...After 5 hours of work last night, I made an AOD patch for Kaiserreich. It's not pretty, but it should work.

INSTRUCTIONS:

In your Kaiserreich mod folder, go to config, and delete the boostertext.csv and doomsdaytext.csv.


Replace your Kaiserreich leaders folder with this one: http://www.filefactory.com/file/b0b025c/n/leaders.7z

I tried it out but it still crashes on "reading scenario". Any advice?

[Vaximillian]

Deutsche Syndikalist Staat... for a DE lang name
or Combiné Syndicat Allemands (lol CSA!) for a French one.

And the main argument was just that the empire would not particularly enjoy sharing europe with another realm. There is das Reich ,and that is the Kaiserreich - there can be no other reference per se. Frankenstaat works, but the Carolus Magnus allusion brings the German Hegemony over the new 'France' to a historic level of over 1000 years ago 'You were always ours, remember?' sort of thing.

1. Too much CSA...
2. Fully agreed with you, Reich is Reich, whenever Kaiserreich or Frankreich.

That would be Syndicats Combinés Allemands, actually, and it sounds pretty awkward. =P

I don't think we have to use a French name for Syndicalist Germany. Unlike the Kaiserreich, the French are probably content to set up a regime of German Syndicalists allied to them and let them take care of their business.

Why not simple Sydicalist Germany?

[KaiserMuffin]

If we have 'Syndicalist Germany' (and maybe a dutch capitulation/DDR release style event so the CoF doesn't have to go chasing all over the pacific for German VP's) then we need to rename Grey Germany to German Empire.

To be honest one thing that bugs me is that we get Mittelafrika, AoG and Germany. Deutschland at a minimum, but 'das Kaiserreich' or 'Deutsches Reich' for the Wilhelmite Germany. If everything else is Germanised or German names why the hell is Germany Anglophone!!!

[Vaximillian]

To be honest one thing that bugs me is that we get Mittelafrika, AoG and Germany. Deutschland at a minimum, but 'das Kaiserreich' or 'Deutsches Reich' for the Wilhelmite Germany. If everything else is Germanised or German names why the hell is Germany Anglophone!!!

+1, Kaiserreich would be the best. That's why the mod is called Kaiserreich! So there should be one

[The War Monger]

On v1 ish I have Germany when kicked off the continent takes over MittelAfrica directly IE France in Vanilla sort of. Meaning that they still exist so setting up a direct rival Germany may actually make sense.

[semihippie]

I tried it out but it still crashes on "reading scenario". Any advice?

Clear out your vanilla leaders folder (backup into another folder).

[Ryke]

Funny you should mention AOD compatibility...After 5 hours of work last night, I made an AOD patch for Kaiserreich. It's not pretty, but it should work.

INSTRUCTIONS:

In your Kaiserreich mod folder, go to config, and delete the boostertext.csv and doomsdaytext.csv.


Replace your Kaiserreich leaders folder with this one: http://www.filefactory.com/file/b0b025c/n/leaders.7z

There's no boostertext.csv in my Kaiserreich folder. I did the rest (deleting doomsdaytext and replacing the leaders) but it still won't work.

I'll try to do a reinstall of AoD and Kaiserreich and do that again. I don't think I have the latest version of Kaiserreich anyway.

[semihippie]

There's no boostertext.csv in my Kaiserreich folder. I did the rest (deleting doomsdaytext and replacing the leaders) but it still won't work.

I'll try to do a reinstall of AoD and Kaiserreich and do that again. I don't think I have the latest version of Kaiserreich anyway.

Try backing up/clearing out the vanilla leaders folder as well. Some people have reported trouble with that- others haven't.

[Azzinoth104]

Clear out your vanilla leaders folder (backup into another folder).

Okay it worked now. By the way there are many UKNOWN STRING WANTED but that's need to be moded if I am correct or added with the AoD files.

[semihippie]

Okay it worked now. By the way there are many UKNOWN STRING WANTED but that's need to be moded if I am correct.

I don't think I made it clear, unfortunately: keep your AOD config files- delete the kaiserreich versions. I'll edit my original post to make this clear.

[JRHINDO]

Westfrankenstaat

Why west?

How about Fränkische Reich

[KaiserMuffin]

West, cos thats the division of the Charlemagne/Karl der Grosse/Carolus Magnus empire after his sons agreed to how they were gonna divide it up. Franken cos thats the correct version of 'French' in German (thanks to my gf.) and Staat for State.

France is currently known as Frankreich in German - 'Realm (of the) Franks'. Considering the Kaiserreich just won, a demotion is in order, non? Thus, Frank-staat - French State. Still sounds too independant. So we tack on the West, Pull it back into the 1st Holy Roman Empire, as forged by Charlemagne/Karl der Grosse/Carolus Magnus and you have a HISTORICAL reason why the Germans will not be leaving France any time soon.

Hell, put Wilhelm as HoS for Germany and France too

(in short JRHINDO - linguistic reasons that allow implication all of France is German land)

[Vaximillian]

Why west?

How about Fränkische Reich

No Reich under any circumstances! There must be only one Reich - the Kaiserreich.

(in short JRHINDO - linguistic reasons that allow implication all of France is German land)

Yeah, linguistics...

[Meadow]

My vote goes to Westfrankenstaat. Provided it uses my flag

[MercZ]

While you guys are on that, I would suggest some sort of Syndicalist option in China. Maybe some ministers placed within Republican China or something.

[Asalto]

While you guys are on that, I would suggest some sort of Syndicalist option in China. Maybe some ministers placed within Republican China or something.

This would be a good idea. What about if there could be two paths for Chinese Republican revolution(happens in German Chinese puppet). They could take Liberal or Socialist path.

Since Republic of China uses traditional republican flag(which represents less Autocrat/Nationalist China), I suggest there shouldn't be much extremes for this Chinese Republic.

Democratic path would lead to Social Conservative goverment(respect to Chinese traditions) while Socialist path would lead to Syndicalist goverment, but not in the way of Bolsheviks, but more democratic Socialism similar to Union of Britain or Bengal(mix of Social Radical and Social Democrat).

Republican China will have then options to join alliances according to it's own political stance: Syndicalist Republic for Internationale while Liberal Republic for Entente, but no for Mitteleuropa at any cost. Republican China would be natural enemy of Germans and Qing.

By making two paths for Chinese Republic, you can leave Maoist radicals in Shanqing Tianque(they are turned into National Populist in KR reality), while using less radical Left-Wing politics for Socialist Republic. Military leaders are mainly neutral and can stay for both paths.

What do you think?

[Keioel]

BTW I changed the Qing Core Events to give them all their cores when they decide to reclaim them either peacefully or forcefully because there are NO events to give them if they do it by conquest, which makes no sense.