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CCurio said:
Suggestions for the centroamerica flag...

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The star is a placeholder...it could be replaced with whatever becomes the Syndicalist symbol...


It seems that I am well in touch with my inner anarchist. :rofl:

Sadly my work on the communard flags isn't progressing that much...it seems that I am not so well in touch with my inner radical socialist. *sigh*
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I like that one . . . do you want me to take a stab at any of the Communard flags? For whatever reason :rofl: my communist skins have seemed to turn out well . . . If so, post or PM me with the countries and any background . . .
 
Sarmatia1871 said:
Ah, but these would have to be the Kaiser's mechas, which would be designed to look suitably Prussian!
So, they'd have Pickelhauben, would march around like German soldiers on the parade ground and have giant speakers playing gramapohone recordings of 'Heil dir im Siegerkranz' to raise troop morale!
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I think you've just found your final boss for this world's version of Wolfenstein.

GUTEN TAG! :: opens fire::
 
Sarmatia1871 said:
If you can (and also have enough time to actually find all of these people - :) !), that would be a very big help, and mean that I can start trying to get my head properly around the AI system!
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OK, I will start working on colllecting their picks and leaderizing them . . .Note: I am volunteering for the graphical end only :) I don't think I am qualified for assigning traits and scores :(
 
Passivocalia said:
Big T! You can find all the cardinals on this site: http://www.fiu.edu/~mirandas/gallery.htm

As for the Swiss Guard commandants... well... good luck!

Oh. In that case I CERTAINLY recommend "Julius IV" as our militant-expansionist Pope's name. I hope it's not too bad that he is Austrian... it's hard to find many Italian cardinals who loudly sympathized with Italian fascism, considering that it was Italy and all. Perhaps Pacelli and Innitzer can be the two main candidates in your scenario, with few differences between the two; this is the way I plan to make Pacelli and dalla Costa in the Vaticanized standard game.

Well, you could do a retirement event. But an assassination event is so much more fun.. :D

EDIT: And assassination would give basis for an even more militant policy shift--though I take it that the Papacy might be considerably militant already in this timeline.
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Truly an excellent site you've found there!

I especially like Ignace-Gabriel I, Latin Patriarch of Antioch:

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What's done with him could lead to a whole range of conflicts in the Middle East, between Papists, Ottomans, Arabs, and the powers of Orthodoxy -> It could be just like the Middle Ages!

:) - And the Swiss Guard Commanders aren't an absolute priority! They might be interesting leaders, but I'd imagine that the army would still be under the control of Italians. And you're right, assasination would probably be a better way to deal with the 'accelerated Conclave' - just have to work out who could be blamed...

(although, could possibly be implemented by a reworking of Count Ciano's flight to Armenia from All the Russias...)
 
Berlichingen said:
The techteams aren't fully done yet, but I'll look into what you guys been saying.

I'll make it your call, do you want Hiessenburg and Von Braun still as teams or no?

I'm also removing rocketry from Schuckert and giving it to Henschel, who was quite a diverse company, built tanks, including Tigers, aircraft, rocket engines, etc, its a "jack of all trades" team for the germans, with lots of specialties but moderate skill.

I'm also thinking about these new techteams:

- Vulcan AG (new german naval tech team, specializes in surface vessels their third)
- I'm also thinking about a more abstract concept of a "Old Guard" team and a "New Guard team, that are slept and waked via events the player chooses, so in a more abstract way we can represent a far larger amount of people. Mackensen was far from untalented, giving him a low score seems unfair, but he probably would be old-guardish, so a low score is necessary for game-purposes.
- Also will keep Rottweiler Pulverbafrik, a large munitions company that operate in germany and foreign countries before and during WWI for many germany-aligned countries, like Rottweiler Pulverfabrik - Bulgarien,etc. Its also in the 1914 mod, as I did some techteams for them as well.
- Considering replacing Udet (wasn't he pretty fascist?) with a more "acceptable" tech team.
- Many of the values will be tinkered around, so don't worry.
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Probably keep the German nuclear tech-teams, but make Germany lose most of its nuclear techs, to simulate the historic lack of investment. And for military doctrines, seperate 'teams'/institutions are probably better than individuals...

Oh yes, and definitely keep me updated on which German companies would also be very active in other European countries -> This way, it would be easier for decisions made by the German player to have knock-on effects in the rest of the zone of German economic influence...
 
CCurio said:
It seems that I am well in touch with my inner anarchist. :rofl:

Sadly my work on the communard flags isn't progressing that much...it seems that I am not so well in touch with my inner radical socialist. *sigh*
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Very good, yes I think the top is probably the best as well.

I'll see if I can think up any good idea for a Syndicalist symbol, but the real-life ones tended not to produce much in the way of interesting iconography, so it may be tricky. Any further ideas would be very good though!
 
T-hiddemen said:
OK, I will start working on colllecting their picks and leaderizing them . . .Note: I am volunteering for the graphical end only :) I don't think I am qualified for assigning traits and scores :(
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Don't worry, I think Passivocalia's already sorted these out!

However, if you see any French Cardinals around at the time, try to get them as well, as I want a reasonably strong Catholic presence in French North Africa.

EDIT: And for the update, pretty much all the bugs and identified problems since the last Alpha have now been fixed. The only thing I'm having trouble with is the American Civil War crash, which I haven't been able to duplicate yet - which is a pity, as the Civil War itself is running fairly well!

(Eg. a hands-off one I'm running at the moment is culminating after two years of quite vicious fighting in a joint America-First/USA siege of the last Syndicalist bastion of New York City - After which the two American factions should be ready to take on each other...)
 
Sarmatia1871 said:
I especially like Ignace-Gabriel I, Latin Patriarch of Antioch:

What's done with him could lead to a whole range of conflicts in the Middle East, between Papists, Ottomans, Arabs, and the powers of Orthodoxy -> It could be just like the Middle Ages!
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Wow--I had actually forgotten that the Holy Land was under Ottoman control in this timeline. Crusades!

:) - And the Swiss Guard Commanders aren't an absolute priority! They might be interesting leaders, but I'd imagine that the army would still be under the control of Italians.
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Yes, I thought of that only after I typed it. I suppose, as the government of Italy, it would have no reason to NOT have capable Italian ministers for the army and various, more secular domestic slots.

And you're right, assasination would probably be a better way to deal with the 'accelerated Conclave' - just have to work out who could be blamed...
(although, could possibly be implemented by a reworking of Count Ciano's flight to Armenia from All the Russias...)
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Socialist Sicilians! ;) Or, perhaps, a secret radicalist conspiracy to blame it on the Sicilians...
And I'm not familiar with Count Ciano's Flight--is it a crash death? If so, then its amazing how many people died of plane crashes at this time; just look at the Spanish Civil War. It would certainly be viable here.

However, if you see any French Cardinals around at the time, try to get them as well, as I want a reasonably strong Catholic presence in French North Africa.
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T-hiddemen said:
I'll see what I can find!
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Eugène Cardinal Tisserant may be one good option. He was from Lorraine, but may still consider himself French even if the Germans are occupying it, and he was considered outspoken and independent-minded.
 
T-hiddemen said:
I like that one . . . do you want me to take a stab at any of the Communard flags? For whatever reason :rofl: my communist skins have seemed to turn out well . . . If so, post or PM me with the countries and any background . . .
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Well, I think this mod needs flags for the Union of Britain and Commune of France.

Well, for UOB I was thinking simply an union jack with a disc on the midle, containing whatever the syndicalist symbolism might be, preferably with a neat line of text somewhere there, something like "Labour and Freedom". :p

For Commune of France I was just thinking that it could be the Tricolor with some soviet CoA (you know those things with the wreaths, rising sun and stuff?) style thing in the middle. Some neat phrase somewhere there, this time in french...
 
CCurio said:
Hmmmh, have you considered the possibility of creating nations that could revolt from the Commune of France? I was having Brittany in my mind...Germans could shear some nations out of FRance, or they could revolt, or...
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It's possible - although Britanny was traditionally very Catholic and conservative, so is more likely to be the bastion of Rightist Sentiment in mainland France, and the main part which is likely to secede to VIC once the two Frances start fighting.

Some thought definitely has to be given for potential peace-treaties/settlements after wars between major countries, as I really don't like the general 'annex everything' result of most HOI2 wars -> And Germany vs. France is an obvious one.

However, the only other 'nations' I could think of being taken out of France would be some sort of Provençal nation in the South (but that's a bit of a long-shot in this period!), independence for the French part of the Basque country, or, possibly, an independant 'Greater Lotharingien' for Eitel in the North and North-West...
 
Passivocalia said:
Wow--I had actually forgotten that the Holy Land was under Ottoman control in this timeline. Crusades!

Yes, I thought of that only after I typed it. I suppose, as the government of Italy, it would have no reason to NOT have capable Italian ministers for the army and various, more secular domestic slots.

Socialist Sicilians! ;) Or, perhaps, a secret radicalist conspiracy to blame it on the Sicilians...
And I'm not familiar with Count Ciano's Flight--is it a crash death? If so, then its amazing how many people died of plane crashes at this time; just look at the Spanish Civil War. It would certainly be viable here.

Eugène Cardinal Tisserant may be one good option. He was from Lorraine, but may still consider himself French even if the Germans are occupying it, and he was considered outspoken and independent-minded.
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Yes, Count Ciano's 'Flight to Armenia' is an event in All the Russias - the plane has a quite high chance of crashing ( ;) ), and the Armenians, Italians and Turks all have an option of shooting it down, to create a diplomatic incident.

In 'All the Russias' Armenia is independant and fascist, but in this timeline its a special administrative region (eg. puppet...) of the Ottoman Empire. But obviously, as the Armenian Church is subordinated to Rome, the Papacy is going to have some interests there...

Ah, and someone from Lorraine is very good - although not neccessarily for France (More friends for Eitel!).
 
CCurio said:
Well, I think this mod needs flags for the Union of Britain and Commune of France.

Well, for UOB I was thinking simply an union jack with a disc on the midle, containing whatever the syndicalist symbolism might be, preferably with a neat line of text somewhere there, something like "Labour and Freedom". :p

For Commune of France I was just thinking that it could be the Tricolor with some soviet CoA (you know those things with the wreaths, rising sun and stuff?) style thing in the middle. Some neat phrase somewhere there, this time in french...
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Oh yes, the Rising Sun - brilliant for the Commune of France! It was actually one of the few symbols that the 1871 Commune actually used, and was lifted from the Jacobins. I'll see if I can find any contemporary pictures...

EDIT: And actually for Britain, why don't you try to make it a bit like the flag in the propaganda poster? So, red with a small Union Jack in the corner (like the current one...), but with the (small!) fist above the star and banners all around it?
 
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Sarmatia1871 said:
It's possible - although Britanny was traditionally very Catholic and conservative, so is more likely to be the bastion of Rightist Sentiment in mainland France, and the main part which is likely to secede to VIC once the two Frances start fighting.

Some thought definitely has to be given for potential peace-treaties/settlements after wars between major countries, as I really don't like the general 'annex everything' result of most HOI2 wars -> And Germany vs. France is an obvious one.

However, the only other 'nations' I could think of being taken out of France would be some sort of Provençal nation in the South (but that's a bit of a long-shot in this period!), independence for the French part of the Basque country, or, possibly, an independant 'Greater Lotharingien' for Eitel in the North and North-West...
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I was thinking that there could be three four options regarding the traditionalist secessionism in Brittany/Provencal... 1) It fizzles as the brave workers crush the Reaction! 2) It becomes a simmering resistance and Commune loses it's cores in the areas, at least for a while 3) The areas revolt as independent nations, faaar morel ikely for the Bretons 4) They join Nationalist France. Both of the areas would get event like that, individually. The chance of anything happening would go up if NF would fund the activism beforehand.

Yarh, I don't like annex all either. I could even see a Vichy style partition of France between the NF and German puppets of Brittany, Flanders-Wallonien (?), Basque (?) and Greater Lotharingien. I could even see an option to make Brittany an Admirality again (+150 relations with navy/colonies faction)... ;)

Yeah, I didn't think there would be a huge amount of nations to shear off, but still something. I would love to see Greater Lotharingien under my favorite German crown-head. :rofl:
 
CCurio said:
I was thinking that there could be three four options regarding the traditionalist secessionism in Brittany/Provencal... 1) It fizzles as the brave workers crush the Reaction! 2) It becomes a simmering resistance and Commune loses it's cores in the areas, at least for a while 3) The areas revolt as independent nations, faaar morel ikely for the Bretons 4) They join Nationalist France. Both of the areas would get event like that, individually. The chance of anything happening would go up if NF would fund the activism beforehand.

Yarh, I don't like annex all either. I could even see a Vichy style partition of France between the NF and German puppets of Brittany, Flanders-Wallonien (?), Basque (?) and Greater Lotharingien. I could even see an option to make Brittany an Admirality again (+150 relations with navy/colonies faction)... ;)

Yeah, I didn't think there would be a huge amount of nations to shear off, but still something. I would love to see Greater Lotharingien under my favorite German crown-head. :rofl:
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:rofl: ...

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Yes - particularly if the power goes to his head and he decides to dress up....

Partition of France events would be quite good - It would also mean we can have yet more social-cultural events, as Communard language policy leads to revolts in the provinces! However, finding leaders for the states could be tricky - particularly as I'm using the Basque tag (EUS), for the Spanish Carlists (although this of course could lead to more 'international complications'....)
 
Yeah, I can imagine that getting leaders would be really hard for them, but I think it's worth the try. You could propably just switch the EUS tag to something else, right? I think the game itself comes wiht Basque leaders and such.

Oh yeah...I'm about to go on Breton flag making spree. Goodnes gracious, I just love the Breton tendency to cook up all sorts of movements and every single one of them has a diffrent flag... but that isn't enough for me! :D
 
As a Syndicalist symbol, why not have a cog (representing trade and industry) like those on many commie german flags for Victoria...

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Perhaps the star is too communist, so it could be replaced by a world globe or just a simple cross.

Ayeshteni
 
Steff, it is playble, but it has still some crashes (or at lest it crashed for me)...

As for Breton flags... :p

I went for a design that is vaugely similar to the German flag while maintaining it's bretonness...

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With Triskelion....

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...with a regular cross...

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...and with an iron cross (I found iron crosses on some really old breton flags...!)

This to come: with fleur de lis, with ermine spot (doh!), integralist breton.

Too bad you can't have flag system like the one in Vicky. :(
 
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