so romanian's got a slavic adstrate?
did i say philological discussion is getting 2 far?![]()
anyway... wasn't that kaiserreich's thread? so...![]()
so romanian's got a slavic adstrate?
did i say philological discussion is getting 2 far?![]()
anyway... wasn't that kaiserreich's thread? so...![]()
El Imperio del Nilo - un AAR fatimita de Deus Vult Premio GoyAAR CK 2007
El Maravilloso Reino de Rumanía (marca registrada) - un quasi AAR que empezó haciéndole la cama a Alemania
Nuestros Derechos - Un AAR libertario de Victoria Revolutions
God's on Our Side - Un AAR de un mundo sombrío (Hoi2DDA)
Originally Posted by BinomistaR-G
It WAS the kaiserreich thread!![]()
And of course Romanian has a slavic adstrate (15% or more), with all those Slavs around.
Into CKII now
Old HoI2 stuff:
The IIIrd Romanian Kingdom - mod33 aar - Fronts: Siberia, Persia, C Asia. | God Save The Tsar...And Protect The Duma - ATR AAR - both abandoned
A Random AAR - 10-Afr Scenario AAR - finished
Mods and scenarios: Research Specialization Mod | 10-Afr Scenario | Romania Improvement Project
Part of: The Kaiserreich Team (retired) | E3 Project - former Eastern Europe Enhancement Mod, former Über Balkan Mod (Ex-General Secretary)
Second Chief of Navy - Jiu Zung-jan in Cantonia AAR - finished, so I died in 1973 as the father of the Cantonian nuclear carrier program.
Alejandro Finesterre - Armaments Minister in Catalonia's Struggle
Nationality: Romanian|Location: Bucharest|Religion: Atheist|Political Party: They should be banned.
woaaah! 15% is a huge load, i did'nt think it was that muchOriginally Posted by Crush3r
it is non flexive, isn't it?
El Imperio del Nilo - un AAR fatimita de Deus Vult Premio GoyAAR CK 2007
El Maravilloso Reino de Rumanía (marca registrada) - un quasi AAR que empezó haciéndole la cama a Alemania
Nuestros Derechos - Un AAR libertario de Victoria Revolutions
God's on Our Side - Un AAR de un mundo sombrío (Hoi2DDA)
can any1 give me instructions on how to set up Kaiserriech??
Hey man, you should see armenian! Language that breaks off from protogreek perhaps 4000 years ago, enters anatolia, takes Hittite, Urartean (caucasian language with crazy consonants all over the place), Scythian influence, before falling into the Persian cultural orbit for 800 years...then the turkish for another 800...it's amazing that you can peel back these vocabulary layers to actually find the origins of the tongue :SOriginally Posted by BinomistaR-G
Yes Hai Em.
The core people use MSN and they don't need any forum anymore, so we can as well discuss linguistics.It WAS the kaiserreich thread
Well, there is one big advantage about Armenia - they still speak RussianHey man, you should see armenian!![]()
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Custom SKIF pack for Armageddon scenario nations
Version 0.52
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I havent been able to work on finding the error today, I had some family business I had to attend to. I'll hopefully find it tonight, make sure everything is working alright and release it tomorrow.
It's flexive like all latin languages.Originally Posted by BinomistaR-G
Romanian has a Dacian substrate, and a Slavic adstrate. It's 15% because of almost a millenium of cyrillic alphabet usage and Church Slavonic influences.
But there is also a theory that Latin and Dacian were in the same language group along with some other languages between Iberia and Assyria. The theory also states that the an empire existed in Europe, centered around the West and N West Pontic region, before the Greeks arrived in Europe, and that Greek and Roman mythology is based around the history of that Empire, that broke apart due to fragmentation (also considered the basis of the Tower of Babel story in this theory). This could fit in to the current theory of the people that inhabited areas now submerged by the Black Sea after the formation of the Bosphorous (deluge theory), that spread their slightly more advanced way of life, also supported by the Tărtăria tablets. Nicolae Densuseanu „Prehistoric Dacia” provides some good proof, but only more money into archaology in the area will provide the material evidence.
Into CKII now
Old HoI2 stuff:
The IIIrd Romanian Kingdom - mod33 aar - Fronts: Siberia, Persia, C Asia. | God Save The Tsar...And Protect The Duma - ATR AAR - both abandoned
A Random AAR - 10-Afr Scenario AAR - finished
Mods and scenarios: Research Specialization Mod | 10-Afr Scenario | Romania Improvement Project
Part of: The Kaiserreich Team (retired) | E3 Project - former Eastern Europe Enhancement Mod, former Über Balkan Mod (Ex-General Secretary)
Second Chief of Navy - Jiu Zung-jan in Cantonia AAR - finished, so I died in 1973 as the father of the Cantonian nuclear carrier program.
Alejandro Finesterre - Armaments Minister in Catalonia's Struggle
Nationality: Romanian|Location: Bucharest|Religion: Atheist|Political Party: They should be banned.
Yeah they do...I was there this past July, there is still this soviet mentality that all foreigners speak russian...some people mix up the two languages but hopefully now that armenian is the official language they'll be able to stop the pervasive mixing with education...more or less happened in greece too, i'm sure...(?)Originally Posted by Akira
Yes Hai Em.
lolOriginally Posted by Crush3r
no, it shud b the only 1 that is flexive... at least catalan, lusitans, castillan, italian, french, sicilian and sard (wich i studied) are not flexive...
wow, and this thing about armenian is just amazing. A very... rich... substrate/adstrate
PS: this is going a little bit off topic!![]()
anyway, i hope we'll b able to play kaiserreich tomorrow or so![]()
El Imperio del Nilo - un AAR fatimita de Deus Vult Premio GoyAAR CK 2007
El Maravilloso Reino de Rumanía (marca registrada) - un quasi AAR que empezó haciéndole la cama a Alemania
Nuestros Derechos - Un AAR libertario de Victoria Revolutions
God's on Our Side - Un AAR de un mundo sombrío (Hoi2DDA)
u joking!Originally Posted by John Tzimisces
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did greeks speak russian? but they were off the soviet influence...
El Imperio del Nilo - un AAR fatimita de Deus Vult Premio GoyAAR CK 2007
El Maravilloso Reino de Rumanía (marca registrada) - un quasi AAR que empezó haciéndole la cama a Alemania
Nuestros Derechos - Un AAR libertario de Victoria Revolutions
God's on Our Side - Un AAR de un mundo sombrío (Hoi2DDA)
ah no, i mean that the greeks, after achieving independence, were able to establish their own educational system and had the choice of teaching either classic greek, the modern greek, or take a middle ground...
Yes Hai Em.
wow, amazingOriginally Posted by John Tzimisces
what did they pick?
El Imperio del Nilo - un AAR fatimita de Deus Vult Premio GoyAAR CK 2007
El Maravilloso Reino de Rumanía (marca registrada) - un quasi AAR que empezó haciéndole la cama a Alemania
Nuestros Derechos - Un AAR libertario de Victoria Revolutions
God's on Our Side - Un AAR de un mundo sombrío (Hoi2DDA)
if choosed classic greek i'm going there right away![]()
Really?!Originally Posted by Zauberfloete
Seriously, I think this is a great response from the fans of this mod: the release date keeps being delayed? Who cares, let them work and LET'S TALK LINGUISTICS!
From what I saw somewhere Portuguese and other latin languages are flexive, but anyway, Romanian conforms to the other Romance languages.Originally Posted by BinomistaR-G
Into CKII now
Old HoI2 stuff:
The IIIrd Romanian Kingdom - mod33 aar - Fronts: Siberia, Persia, C Asia. | God Save The Tsar...And Protect The Duma - ATR AAR - both abandoned
A Random AAR - 10-Afr Scenario AAR - finished
Mods and scenarios: Research Specialization Mod | 10-Afr Scenario | Romania Improvement Project
Part of: The Kaiserreich Team (retired) | E3 Project - former Eastern Europe Enhancement Mod, former Über Balkan Mod (Ex-General Secretary)
Second Chief of Navy - Jiu Zung-jan in Cantonia AAR - finished, so I died in 1973 as the father of the Cantonian nuclear carrier program.
Alejandro Finesterre - Armaments Minister in Catalonia's Struggle
Nationality: Romanian|Location: Bucharest|Religion: Atheist|Political Party: They should be banned.
no, i can assure that portuguese isn't![]()
the only ones i don't know apart of romanian are switz romance and aostan (wich i think are vey similar) and none of them are flexive
but it is amazing romanian is... hw many declinations does it have?
El Imperio del Nilo - un AAR fatimita de Deus Vult Premio GoyAAR CK 2007
El Maravilloso Reino de Rumanía (marca registrada) - un quasi AAR que empezó haciéndole la cama a Alemania
Nuestros Derechos - Un AAR libertario de Victoria Revolutions
God's on Our Side - Un AAR de un mundo sombrío (Hoi2DDA)