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    You do know that Ukrainians speak their own language right? Oh wait, your absolutely right, Ukrainian is Russian as is English is to German


    Anyone detect any sarcasem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTJ
    You do know that Ukrainians speak their own language right? Oh wait, your absolutely right, Ukrainian is Russian as is English is to German


    Anyone detect any sarcasem?
    There's a Ukranian language? What is the translation?

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    Translation? First names (forenames) are ever rarely translated into another language. So Maximilian would most likely remain as Maximilian. Although, there is the possiblity (from Ukrainian-English-Etc) that Maximilian could become Maximilienko or simply just Maximilien. It is somewhat like how the name William is written as Wilhem. The actual name itself not changing, just the spelling and sometimes pronunciation.

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    Can we hope for, say, a patch before the next full-blown version which is far, far away?

    I've noticed a few bugs, but I can't recall most of them right now. Besides plain old bugs, I have some other concerns, which I'll also list. Here is what I remember (I'll edit the post as more comes to me):

    1. If RUS is at war with Mongolia and Turkestan, RUS will be at peace with Turkestan too once Mongolia is conquered. This shouldn't fire if MON and Turkestan are allied.

    2. Please remove the off-the-continental-United-States victory points so SOMEONE can annex SOMEONE during the American Civil War.

    3. As Canada, I watched the CSA get whooped on until there were very few VP left... then USA said "We're wrong" and let the CSA annex them. This really screwed me and made no sense. Granted, USA and CSA were at peace... but I, Canada, was pounding CSA (Huey Long was helping, too).

    4. The three Indian nations never DO anything... and Princely Federation and Delhi always run out or resources eventually and go to 0 IC.

    5. Ireland is missing claims on Northern Ireland. Even if intentional, I'd like Ireland to get claims to boost their 10 IC to 15.

    6. Sweden never seems to get claims or events to supplement her invasion of Norway. Furthermore, the slider moves seem backwards. I was choosing options during events which SEEMED like they'd make me more hawk/interventionist... but they pushed me the other way. Perhaps a bug? Or I don't understand.

    7. The Italian "deterministic war event" does nothing and seems broken.

    That's all for now. Great work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atruejedi
    6. Sweden never seems to get claims or events to supplement her invasion of Norway. Furthermore, the slider moves seem backwards. I was choosing options during events which SEEMED like they'd make me more hawk/interventionist... but they pushed me the other way. Perhaps a bug? Or I don't understand.

    This might tie into that bug as well: I noticed after Sweden and Norway had been at war for close to a year that neither country had advanced into the other. Nofog + Fullcontrol revealed that Swedish and Norwegian troops could not move into the other country, ie, trying to move a Swedish division into Oslo only gave me the 'x' of an incapable move on the map. So, for all intents and purposes the two countries weren't at war even though it said their were on the diplomatic screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belphegor
    This might tie into that bug as well: I noticed after Sweden and Norway had been at war for close to a year that neither country had advanced into the other. Nofog + Fullcontrol revealed that Swedish and Norwegian troops could not move into the other country, ie, trying to move a Swedish division into Oslo only gave me the 'x' of an incapable move on the map. So, for all intents and purposes the two countries weren't at war even though it said their were on the diplomatic screen.
    OMG! I noticed this too, but it was when I was Sweden and attempted to attack Finland.

    I had to manually cancel the non-aggresion pact I had with them! I guess this is a new "bug" in Doomsday, as I NEVER play Doomsday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atruejedi
    OMG! I noticed this too, but it was when I was Sweden and attempted to attack Finland.

    I had to manually cancel the non-aggresion pact I had with them! I guess this is a new "bug" in Doomsday, as I NEVER play Doomsday.
    Yes, this was something that we've ran into in dealing with the Portuguese-African war.

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    This might be fixed in the event chains, I'll look into it.
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    Nice, a new version! Hope the changes to Russia I submitted last year are in it

    Let's hope it works with Armageddon... *goes to try*

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    Another bug/concern I just remembered:

    Siam is missing alot of claims, making her pathetic when she should be moderately strong (for her area, at least).
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    Siam is rather pathetic... I have to agree..



    Argubly, she could claim roughly all of Indochina in theory. Of course, I would think Siam would be interested in getting Mayala back

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    Benegal had social conflict turnt violent



    This keeps on firing (like 6 times already).... what does it mean?

  13. #2613
    Been playing for a few hours. Some notes



    - Communal France has no surrender events. I conquered the whole country as an United Italy Federation and annexed -- nothing happens.

    - Turmunsk (Primorsk?) never got any territories in the annex of Siberia. It was basically 50% Japanese and 50% Murmunsk controlled Siberia... odd seeing that Murmunsk's cores should have resulted in them getting it all

    - American Sydicates of America Civil War... Californa verus the Syindicates.... nothing happens

    - Italian Unification event fails to launch. Had to save and reload to get it to work

    - I noticed that Italy, at least my Italy, never got any Cores on Austrian held Italian lands. An United Italian Federation should be given events regarding what to do with Commune France, Austria, etc etc. Cores should be added to areas like Avalon and so forth. Perhaps a puppet could be created? I noticed that (when I released Communal France) that a Bourbon king got into power, not bad, as the Catalans in Spain were also Bourbon as well.

    - Ukraine, if it chooses to arrest Kruschev, Ukraine is devoided of any events and given way too much dissent. In an earlier game, I found myself clearing dissent and upgrading units right till 1940. This is really no excuse, as Ukraine is basically the front line against Russia and it shouldn't be as weak as it is. (Well I am not suggesting it should be strong either, but Ukraine shouldn't be clearing dissent and giving energy to Central America for the whole game). Population of Ukraine should be increased. Right now in the game it starts off as .28 or .30 or sometihng along those lines. Ukraine, as it didn't suffer from the holodomar in this alternate history, should have a higher population base (ranging from .35-.45). Don-Cossack Union as well needs a population increase


    - Soviet Ukrainian Generals, such as Eremenko, should be added to the Ukraine. The trouble being... its hard to know who is Ukrainian and who is Russian (when looking at the military pool for the USSR)... But I am going to help you on this one. Give or take, everyone with an "enko" on their surname is of Ukrainian background or has Ukrainian lineage. Much like everyone with a Sky or Ski is Polish. Then you have individuals like Andrei Grechko, who is actually Ukrainian himself.

    - Ukraine needs more leaders? Grab all the "Enko", "Ko", and so forth. At least 90% of them are Ukrainian and in the process, this would probably give Ukraine a good handful of new leaders. Vlasov should also be removed from the Ukraine.

    - Rokossovsky, I would hardly call him a Communist (as he was just an opportunist who fought for the Soviets to move up in the military hierachy), should be added into the Polish army.

    - Kruschev? Ukraine? The man was partly responsible for the Holodomar (How do you think he got the name butcher of the Ukraine?) and making a whole conflict revolving around him is laughable at best. Of course... If you want a more historically correct person for a Communist Ukraine --> here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykhailo_Hrushevsky

    Then you also have [radical] Jerks like
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Vynnychenko (Socialist?)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symon_Petlura (Anti-Bolshevik, Anti-Russian, Anti-German... Form your own conclusion I guess. )

    - Galicia... Yevhen Petrushevych should be made head of Government. Korfanty was largely a German-Pole and that doesn't make much sense in an Austrian puppeted Galicia.

    - There is a lack of events regarding Poland, Galicia, and Ukraine. The creation of Galicia was probably a good move on behalf of the Austrians to prevent anything like civil unrest throughout Eastern Europe... but in a lot of the games I played, Galicia ends up being absorbed completely by the Polish and that is a "no no".

    Puppet or not, angry Germany or not, cowardly Ukraine or not... Poland and Ukraine would simply club each other over the head if either one got or annexed Galicia. If it didn't reach war, it would probably be something as ridicilous as 50+ dissent, as history demonstrated, Ukrainians and Poles would simply run around and murder their respective counterparts in either country. The Polish Resistance did it to Ukrainians in Poland and the OUN did it to Poles during the Second World War. How would this be handled? Both Poland and Ukraine leave their alliances, declare war on each other, and fight each other till an event fires off regarding posession of Galicia. Of course, I suppose, Germany or Austria could choose to intervene through supplying arms or even assisting militarily.


    - Mexico? Doesn't gain any cores when it chooses expanding northwards (uncertain about southwards)


    - Sweden/Norway... Has already been covered... non-agression pacts need to be removed in 1936 or the event should remove them


    - Egypt has no resources whatsoever... Although this might be intentional? Egypt was basically cotton, sand, and dirt back then...


    - Would the Ottoman Empire have declined or even fragmented anyway? Turkish nationalism would not have "dissappeared" had the Ottomans won the war


    - Mongolia is quite the powerhouse isn't it?

    - Deathdates are apparently missing? George VI never dies... Then again, maybe its that wonderful Canadian Maple Syrup?

    - As others have mentioned... Germany has trouble defending itself and even attacking France. France always win, unless I intervene of course. The problem is that someone got a little too excited while writing Germany's AI... Why do I say this? "nofog" and I discovered that Germany had well over 15 Battleships... Maybe it was 30? It was quite a bit and would explain why Germany never built an army

    - Kerensky... eh well I can't argue against this one. I never liked the man

    - Some events keep on looping... Particular the Bengel Social Unrest and Australian Demonstrations
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTJ
    - Soviet Ukrainian Generals, such as Eremenko, should be added to the Ukraine. The trouble being... its hard to know who is Ukrainian and who is Russian (when looking at the military pool for the USSR)... But I am going to help you on this one. Give or take, everyone with an "enko" on their surname is of Ukrainian background or has Ukrainian lineage. Much like everyone with a Sky or Ski is Polish. Then you have individuals like Andrei Grechko, who is actually Ukrainian himself.
    - Ukraine needs more leaders? Grab all the "Enko", "Ko", and so forth. At least 90% of them are Ukrainian and in the process, this would probably give Ukraine a good handful of new leaders. Vlasov should also be removed from the Ukraine.
    I think you are wrong. Lots of generals from Malorossiya could be on service of Russia. And conversely, of couse. So, selecting general by their surname is wrong. The best way is to look at the place of birth. But easier - to set up the number of necessary leaders and to assume them to Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTJ
    Much like everyone with a Sky or Ski is Polish.
    I would be careful with this one. Tchaikovsky certainly wasn't polish. Trotsky (Ukrainian, and no, he hasn't got "enko"). Kerensky. Dzerzhinsky. There's a few that I can think of.

  16. #2616
    Quote Originally Posted by MTJ
    Kruschev? Ukraine? The man was partly responsible for the Holodomar
    Well, like you said, there was no Holodomor in KR. Although, I must admit, Vynnychenko does sound as a good addition.

    The mod is unfinished yet. many events will be added later.
    As for Vlasov, he is in the vanilla leader file, and have a russian DD. You can send me the english file here igor_galin@mail.ru and I'll take care of it.
    The Ottoman fragmentation is being discussed, Mongolia should be able to fight it's many wars, and besides, Russia is still far more powerful.



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    Quote Originally Posted by HJV
    I would be careful with this one. Tchaikovsky certainly wasn't polish. Trotsky (Ukrainian, and no, he hasn't got "enko"). Kerensky. Dzerzhinsky. There's a few that I can think of.
    Trotsky wasn't Ukrainian, as he was Semitic (Jewish)


    Sky is not nessecary Polish, but I am right on one thing, that "Ski" is predominatly Polish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digoo
    I think you are wrong. Lots of generals from Malorossiya could be on service of Russia. And conversely, of couse. So, selecting general by their surname is wrong. The best way is to look at the place of birth. But easier - to set up the number of necessary leaders and to assume them to Ukraine.
    Surname would get most of the people get into the right places, but of course, there might be a handful in the wrong places. A lot of the Generals don't have their birthplaces mentioned in English, especially the ones not popularized in Western History.


    But a lot of investigation is needed however. Birthplace alone probably wouldn't nessecary denote who goes where and who doesn't. Some Ukrainians, like Leonid Brezhnev, were extremely Pro-Soviets (Brezhnev went as far as saying he was Russian after WW2!).

    A lot of these countries do need leaders, because their vinalla leaders are already poor to begin with and some don't really make much sense in this modification. The example being Kaminski in Belyorus and Vlasov in the Ukraine.
    Last edited by MTJ; 11-04-2007 at 22:11.

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    Dzerzhinsky certainly wasn't polish
    He was actually. And proper version of his name is Dzierżyński. Well, but he was a communist and they are not a part of any nation.
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    Just remember that Ukraine isn't supposed to be a major powerhouse and is not even a top priority.
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