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    RESULTS - FALL 1906

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    Fall 1906



    Moves:
    England:
    F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc) (*Bounce*).A Edinburgh - Norway.
    F Norwegian Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway.
    F Sweden Supports A Edinburgh - Norway.

    France:
    A Brest - Paris (*Fails*).

    Germany:
    A Munich - Tyrolia (*Dislodged*).
    A Paris - Brest (*Fails*).
    A Silesia Supports A Berlin (*Disbanded*).
    A Spain - Marseilles (*Fails*).
    A Berlin Supports A Silesia (*Cut*).
    F Gulf of Bothnia - St Petersburg(sc) (*Fails*).

    A Denmark Hold.
    A Marseilles - Burgundy.

    Italy:
    F Tyrrhenian Sea - Western Mediterranean (*Fails*).
    F Western Mediterranean - Spain(sc) (*Bounce*).

    F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Piedmont - Marseilles.
    A Piedmont - Marseilles.

    Russia:
    A Norway Hold (*Dislodged*).
    A Prussia - Berlin (*Fails*).
    A St Petersburg Supports A Norway (*Cut*).

    A Bohemia - Munich.
    A Galicia Supports A Warsaw - Silesia.
    A Moscow - Livonia.
    A Vienna - Bohemia.
    A Warsaw - Silesia.

    Turkey:
    F North Africa - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Fails*).
    F Aegean Sea Convoys A Constantinople - Greece.
    F Ankara - Constantinople.
    A Constantinople - Greece.
    F Ionian Sea Hold.
    A Smyrna Hold.
    A Tyrolia Supports A Bohemia - Munich.

    Retreats:
    German A Munich can retreat to Kiel, Ruhr or OTB.
    Russian A Norway can retreat to Finland or OTB.

    Adjustments:
    England builds two
    Germany is even, or builds one if Munich retreats OTB
    Italy builds one
    Russia is even, or builds one if Norway retreats OTB


    Unit locations:
    04England: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean, A Norway, F Norwegian Sea, F Sweden.
    01France: A Brest.
    07Germany: A Berlin, A Burgundy, A Denmark, F Gulf of Bothnia, A Paris, A Spain, ?A Munich?.
    04Italy: F Gulf of Lyon, A Marseilles, F Tyrrhenian Sea, F Western Mediterranean.
    08Russia: A Bohemia, A Galicia, A Livonia, A Munich, A Prussia, A Silesia, A St Petersburg, ?A Norway?.
    07Turkey: F Aegean Sea, F Constantinople, A Greece, F Ionian Sea, F North Africa, A Smyrna, A Tyrolia.

    Supply Centers:
    06England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway, Portugal, Sweden.
    01France: Brest.
    07Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich, Paris, Spain.
    05Italy: Marseilles, Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice.
    08Russia: Budapest, Moscow, Norway, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Vienna, Warsaw.
    07Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Serbia, Smyrna, Trieste.

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    Comments: WINTER 1906



    ENGLAND
    Leglaen


    Well, it is nice to see the German back in the game, but I am saddened that he has to lose Munich and Marseille. The good news is that we have finally liberated Norway and I hope to contain the Italian-Turkish alliance.


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    RESULTS - WINTER 1906





    WINTER 1906

    Moves:
    England:
    Build F Liverpool
    Build F London

    Germany:
    Retreat A Munich - Ruhr

    Italy:
    Build A Venice

    Russia:
    Retreat A Norway OTB (Disband)
    Build A Moscow

    Unit locations:
    06England: F Liverpool, F London, F Mid-Atlantic Ocean, A Norway, F Norwegian Sea, F Sweden.
    01France: A Brest.
    07Germany: A Berlin, A Burgundy, A Denmark, F Gulf of Bothnia, A Ruhr, A Paris, A Spain
    05Italy: F Gulf of Lyon, A Marseilles, F Tyrrhenian Sea, A Venice, F Western Mediterranean.
    08Russia: A Bohemia, A Galicia, A Livonia, A Moscow, A Munich, A Prussia, A Silesia, A St Petersburg .
    07Turkey: F Aegean Sea, F Constantinople, A Greece, F Ionian Sea, F North Africa, A Smyrna, A Tyrolia.

    Supply Centers:
    06England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway, Portugal, Sweden.
    01France: Brest.
    07Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich, Paris, Spain.
    05Italy: Marseilles, Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice.
    08Russia: Budapest, Moscow, Norway, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Vienna, Warsaw.
    07Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Serbia, Smyrna, Trieste.

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    Comments: SPRING 1907



    AUSTRIA-HUNGARY
    Petrarca


    ELIMINATED




    ENGLAND
    Leglaen


    (No Comments Submitted)





    FRANCE
    State Machine

    What the hell? I did try to set something up with Germany and England to "join" in their defense program, but no response. I'll make the move anyway.





    GERMANY
    Forzaa

    General mayhem and chaos.. Italian betrayal, situation in Germany is bleak.





    ITALY
    Czar1111

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    RUSSIA
    Heagarty


    Unless Italy switches sides, the battle-lines are
    drawn. Germany will crumble while England erodes my
    empire from the North. But once Italy and Turkey hit
    the Atlantic, this will stop and we will be
    victorious.

    Turkey could stab me, but why? I am worried about
    players abandoning the game if it goes much longer.
    I'd hate to see that. If it has served it's purpose,
    let's wrap it up and move on.





    TURKEY
    Josephus I


    Well.....what to say. Italy, Russia and I are now firmly in camp. It's only a matter of time before Germany caves and England with him. Although England's recent build of two fleets is going to cause a naval battle in the Atlantic shortly.

    Italy's recent suggestion that he may be forced to leave the game is also a slight cause for concern. Mind you IF a new Italy comes into the game, any deal I made with current Italy goes out the window.

    France (SM) suggests I stab Russia now. But that will never happen; I've committed myself to a russian alliance from day one.

    My moves this turn involve slowly moving my fleets westward and position them to convoy into Spain/Portugal next Fall.

    I'm also going to attack Munich with Russia's support.




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    RESULTS - SPRING 1907


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    MOVES
    England - NMR
    F Liverpool Hold.
    F London Hold.
    F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Hold (*Dislodged*).
    A Norway Hold.
    F Norwegian Sea Hold.
    F Sweden Hold.

    France:
    A Brest - Gascony.

    Germany:
    A Berlin - Kiel.
    A Burgundy Supports A Spain - Marseilles.
    A Denmark Supports A Berlin - Kiel.
    F Gulf of Bothnia - Baltic Sea.
    A Paris Hold.
    A Ruhr - Munich (*Fails*)
    A Spain - Marseilles (*Fails*).

    Italy:
    F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles - Spain.
    A Marseilles - Spain (*Fails*).
    F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold.
    A Venice - Piedmont.
    F Western Mediterranean Supports F North Africa - Mid-Atlantic Ocean.

    Russia:
    A Bohemia Supports A Tyrolia - Munich.
    A Galicia Hold.
    A Livonia Supports A Moscow - St Petersburg.
    A Moscow - St Petersburg.
    A Munich - Berlin.
    A Prussia Supports A Munich - Berlin.
    A Silesia Supports A Tyrolia - Munich.
    A St Petersburg - Finland.

    Turkey:
    F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea.
    F Constantinople - Aegean Sea.
    A Greece Hold.
    F Ionian Sea - Tunis.
    F North Africa - Mid-Atlantic Ocean.
    A Smyrna Hold.
    A Tyrolia - Munich.

    Retreat Necessary
    English F Mid-Atlantic Ocean can retreat to Portugal or Brest or English Channel or Irish Sea or North Atlantic Ocean or OTB.

    Unit locations:
    06 England: F Liverpool, F London, ?F Mid Atlantic Ocean?, A Norway, F Norwegian Sea, F Sweden.
    01 France: A Gascony.
    07 Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Burgundy, A Denmark, A Kiel, A Paris, A Ruhr, A Spain.
    05 Italy: F Gulf of Lyon, A Marseilles, A Piedmont, F Tyrrhenian Sea, F Western Mediterranean.
    08 Russia: A Berlin, A Bohemia, A Finland, A Galicia, A Livonia, A Prussia, A Silesia, A St Petersburg.
    07 Turkey: F Aegean Sea, A Greece, F Ionian Sea, F Mid-Atlantic Ocean, A Munich, A Smyrna, F Tunis.

    Ownership of supply centers:
    06 England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway, Portugal, Sweden.
    01 France: Brest.
    06 Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Paris, Spain.
    05 Italy: Marseilles, Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice.
    08 Russia: Budapest, Moscow, Munich, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Vienna, Warsaw.
    07 Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Serbia, Smyrna, Trieste.

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    RESULTS - SUMMER 1907

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    END OF GAME PROPOSAL
    The proposal to end the game in a DIAS fails.

    GM CONSOLIDATION OF NEW PROPOSALS FOR DRAW
    There is another proposal, submitted by me given some of what I'm seeing in the mail. (The GM proposing anything and the terms of this proposal are extremely unorthodox. If you don't like it, simple: Vote No.)

    The proposal is to continue play through Autumn 1908, then stop the game at that point. The position with the most SCs is declared the winner, second most SCs survives/takes second place, and so on and so forth.

    Any NMRs during a spring/fall turn until end of game would remove that player from the standings. IE- they would instantly be bumped to sixth ahead of the destroyed Austrian player.

    This should help address any concerns I've seen. My main concern is that the game will continue perpetually and then just vanish into oblivion or be won by the one player who stuck it out. I've certainly seen games go longer, much longer - but the new Dip game is now in the beta testing stage and I'm sure we're all going to want to focus on that fairly soon. There's also precedence for a game ending at a specific point rather than 18 SCs (as a reminder, our original house rules DID say no alliances - DIAS or solo - an alliance would have to trust each other long enough to remove everyone else.) Plus, if we select Fall 1908 as the end point that gives us three turns to complete your maneuvers.

    Let me know with your fall moves. As always, it must be unanimous.
    CatKnight


    MOVES
    England
    F Mid Atlantic retreats to Brest

    Unit locations:
    06 England: F Liverpool, F London, F Brest, A Norway, F Norwegian Sea, F Sweden.
    01 France: A Gascony.
    07 Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Burgundy, A Denmark, A Kiel, A Paris, A Ruhr, A Spain.
    05 Italy: F Gulf of Lyon, A Marseilles, A Piedmont, F Tyrrhenian Sea, F Western Mediterranean.
    08 Russia: A Berlin, A Bohemia, A Finland, A Galicia, A Livonia, A Prussia, A Silesia, A St Petersburg.
    07 Turkey: F Aegean Sea, A Greece, F Ionian Sea, F Mid-Atlantic Ocean, A Munich, A Smyrna, F Tunis.

    Ownership of supply centers:
    06 England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway, Portugal, Sweden.
    01 France: Brest.
    06 Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Paris, Spain.
    05 Italy: Marseilles, Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice.
    08 Russia: Budapest, Moscow, Munich, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Vienna, Warsaw.
    07 Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Serbia, Smyrna, Trieste.

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    Comments: FALL 1907



    AUSTRIA-HUNGARY
    Petrarca


    ELIMINATED




    ENGLAND
    Leglaen


    Well, that NMR was a problem, but I should be able to combat the Italo-Turkish fleet incursions into the Mid Atlantic. Hopefully France will be gone this turn as well.

    Russia continues to cause problems.





    FRANCE
    State Machine

    (No Comments Submitted)





    GERMANY
    Forzaa

    Do I draw silence or something.. no messages received from anyone.. Of course, I don't send out much myself, either, probably because my position doesn't command much inspired plans...

    I can only hope I'll have something of a position left after this season, I could finish the French, most likely, but it doesn't really do my position any good, so it's not really worth it





    ITALY
    Czar1111

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    RUSSIA
    Heagarty


    Another NMR worked to my benefit but really hurt the
    game. Looks like I'll hold St. Pete after all. Germany
    is crumbling. England may hang on a while.
    Turkey would be in prime position to stab Italy, but I
    think he'll honor the alliance.

    Although France is still around, technically. The game
    has essentially broken down to a 3 on 2, and I'm happy
    to be on the side with the "3".





    TURKEY
    Josephus I


    Well, it looks like we've pretty much reached the stalemate line in central Europe. In the Med, Italy will help me take Spain and I'll make a lunge for Portugal. Given that, by all likelihood we'll be ending the game in a year, this should give me enough to win the game.


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    RESULTS - FALL / WINTER 1907

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    Fall 1907

    End of Game Proposal
    The proposal to end the game has passed. The following rules are now in effect:
    1. This game will end immediately after Fall 1908 (or Winter if that could affect the SC count)
    2. First place will be awarded to the player with the most SCs, Second to second most, and so forth.
    3. Any NMRs during Spring or Fall 1908 moves that player to the lowest remaining ranking (currently 6th).

    Good luck, gentlemen.
    -CatKnight


    Moves
    England:
    F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean.
    F Liverpool - Irish Sea.
    F London - English Channel.
    A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*).
    F Norwegian Sea - Barents Sea.
    F Sweden - Finland (*Fails*).

    France:
    A Gascony - Brest.

    Germany:
    F Baltic Sea Supports A Kiel.
    A Burgundy Supports A Spain - Marseilles.
    A Denmark Supports A Kiel.
    A Kiel Supports A Ruhr - Munich.
    A Paris Supports A Burgundy.
    A Ruhr - Munich (*Fails*).
    A Spain - Marseilles (*Dislodged*).

    Italy:
    F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles.
    A Marseilles Supports A Greece - Spain.
    A Piedmont Supports A Marseilles.
    F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Greece - Spain.
    F Western Mediterranean Convoys A Greece - Spain.

    Russia:
    A Berlin Hold.
    A Bohemia Supports A Munich.
    A Finland Supports A St Petersburg - Norway (*Cut*).
    A Galicia Hold.
    A Livonia Hold.
    A Prussia Supports A Berlin.
    A Silesia Supports A Munich.
    A St Petersburg - Norway (*Fails*).

    Turkey:
    F Aegean Sea Hold.
    A Greece - Spain.
    F Ionian Sea Convoys A Greece - Spain.
    F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal.
    A Munich Hold.
    A Smyrna - Constantinople.
    F Tunis - North Africa.

    Retreats Needed
    German A Spain can retreat to Gascony or disband.

    Builds/Disbands
    England removes 1
    Germany removes 2, or 1 if Spain retreats OTB
    Turkey builds 2 (eligible for 3, but one home SC occupied)

    Unit locations:
    06England: F Barents Sea, F English Channel, F Irish Sea, F Mid-Atlantic Ocean, A Norway, F Sweden.
    01France: A Brest.
    07Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Burgundy, A Denmark, A Kiel, A Paris, A Ruhr, ?A Spain.?
    05Italy: F Gulf of Lyon, A Marseilles, A Piedmont, F Tyrrhenian Sea, F Western Mediterranean.
    08Russia: A Berlin, A Bohemia, A Finland, A Galicia, A Livonia, A Prussia, A Silesia, A St Petersburg.
    07Turkey: F Aegean Sea, A Constantinople, F Ionian Sea, A Munich, F North Africa, F Portugal, A Spain.

    Ownership of supply centers:
    05England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway, Sweden.
    01France: Brest.
    05Germany: Belgium, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Paris.
    05Italy: Marseilles, Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice.
    08Russia: Berlin, Budapest, Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Vienna, Warsaw.
    10Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Munich, Portugal, Serbia, Smyrna, Spain, Trieste.


    WINTER 1907

    Moves:
    England: NMR!
    GM removes F Sweden (farthest from home territory in territories)

    Germany:
    A Spain retreats OTB
    Remove A Denmark

    Turkey:
    Build A Ankara
    Build F Smyrna

    Unit locations:
    05England: F Barents Sea, F English Channel, F Irish Sea, F Mid-Atlantic Ocean, A Norway
    01France: A Brest.
    05Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Burgundy, A Kiel, A Paris, A Ruhr
    05Italy: F Gulf of Lyon, A Marseilles, A Piedmont, F Tyrrhenian Sea, F Western Mediterranean.
    08Russia: A Berlin, A Bohemia, A Finland, A Galicia, A Livonia, A Prussia, A Silesia, A St Petersburg.
    09Turkey: F Aegean Sea, A Ankara, A Constantinople, F Ionian Sea, A Munich, F North Africa, F Portugal, F Smyrna, A Spain.

    Ownership of supply centers:
    05England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway, Sweden.
    01France: Brest.
    05Germany: Belgium, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Paris.
    05Italy: Marseilles, Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice.
    08Russia: Berlin, Budapest, Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Vienna, Warsaw.
    10Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Munich, Portugal, Serbia, Smyrna, Spain, Trieste.
    Last edited by heagarty; 12-10-2005 at 03:57.

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    Comments: SPRING 1908


    GERMANY
    Forzaa

    Not much more to do than hold on to what I have, for now anyway; the position I hold doesn't allow for much expansion; at this point I prefer relatively risk-free holding to risky attempts at taking, the loss of Berlin and Munich, while it hurts, does mean my opponents can't gather strength easily, their front is too small.





    RUSSIA
    Heagarty


    This is the end game. Another NMR, on retreats,
    signals it is time to wind this up. Italy has stuck
    with us so far and Turkey seems to be the prime
    beneficiary of the alliance, but I have no problems
    with that. Hopefully this demonstration has shown the
    potential power and success of the Russia/Turkey
    "Juggernaut" strategy.

    I was hoping for different German retreats, but the
    English loss of the army Sweden was an unexpected
    benefit.






    TURKEY
    Josephus I


    Well, I should win this game. All I need to do now is hold onto all my possessions. I'll help Italy gain one or two more SCs, for the alliance sake. But otherwise this is it.

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    RESULTS - SPRING 1908

    Spring 1908

    GM Note: With England's second NMR, the position is now vacant. Considering the game's ending next move, there's no value in replacing the position. -CatKnight



    Moves:
    England: NMR!
    F Barents Sea, no move received.
    F English Channel, no move received.
    F Irish Sea, no move received.
    F Mid-Atlantic Ocean, no move received (*Disbanded*).
    A Norway, no move received (*Disbanded*).

    France: NMR!
    A Brest, no move received.

    Germany:
    F Baltic Sea - Denmark.
    A Burgundy Supports A Paris.
    A Kiel Supports A Ruhr.
    A Paris Supports A Burgundy.
    A Ruhr Supports A Kiel.

    Italy:
    F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles.
    A Marseilles Supports A Spain - Gascony.
    A Piedmont - Venice.
    F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold.
    F Western Mediterranean Supports F North Africa - Mid-Atlantic Ocean.

    Russia:
    A Berlin Supports A Munich.
    A Bohemia Supports A Munich.
    A Finland Supports A St Petersburg - Norway.
    A Galicia - Vienna.
    A Livonia - St Petersburg.
    A Prussia Supports A Berlin.
    A Silesia Supports A Munich.
    A St Petersburg - Norway.

    Turkey:
    F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea.
    A Ankara - Constantinople.
    A Constantinople - Bulgaria.
    F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea.
    A Munich Hold.
    F North Africa - Mid-Atlantic Ocean.
    F Portugal Supports F North Africa - Mid-Atlantic Ocean.
    F Smyrna - Aegean Sea.
    A Spain - Gascony.

    Unit locations:
    England: F Barents Sea, F English Channel, F Irish Sea.
    France: A Brest.
    Germany: A Burgundy, F Denmark, A Kiel, A Paris, A Ruhr.
    Italy: F Gulf of Lyon, A Marseilles, F Tyrrhenian Sea, A Venice, F Western Mediterranean.
    Russia: A Berlin, A Bohemia, A Finland, A Norway, A Prussia, A Silesia, A St Petersburg, A Vienna.
    Turkey: F Adriatic Sea, F Aegean Sea, A Bulgaria, A Constantinople, A Gascony, F Ionian Sea, F Mid-Atlantic Ocean, A Munich, F Portugal.

    Ownership of supply centers:
    England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway, Sweden.
    France: Brest.
    Germany: Belgium, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Paris.
    Italy: Marseilles, Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice.
    Russia: Berlin, Budapest, Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Vienna, Warsaw.
    Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Munich, Portugal, Serbia, Smyrna, Spain, Trieste.

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    FINAL COMMENTS: FALL 1908




    FRANCE
    State Machine

    The 2nd Regime -

    Entering the game as a substitute for a failing country, I intended to try to find some way to survive first, and ideally actually be part of something important, and especially to reclaim some of my poor country. I offerred myself up to Germany and England to aid them in anyway possible. Both agreed. I figured Germany would renege so I was happy with England. I tried very hard to get everyone to stab everyone else, but got nowhere with that. But, at some point I accidently became a go-between for English/Turk talks about stabbing their respective partners. That would have been nice. Anyway, both stabs were thwarted (English mis-moves and Russian counter-moves). Others in the game felt that the stabs were contrived. I don't know. After that, I couldn't count on England anymore, and took a shot for shelter in Brest. I've been content to sit things out. I felt some sympathy for the western alliance (oddly) and refused to help the easterners. And, I told England and Germany I wouldn't mess with them.





    GERMANY
    Forzaa

    No attacks, hopefully they recognised my fairly strong position, and will not try anything once more.. meanwhile, I remain dug in.

    I must say the game is even more devious than it seemed.. Italy tries to convince us of a "Juggernaut" Russian-Turkish alliance, and when we finally manage to get a decent position against this Juggernaut, he throws in his lot with the Turk and breaks through my lines.

    NMR's, I must say, were quite a shock as well, the damage these do is much more severe, or so it seems, than not ordering in most other games.

    All in all, for me it was a nice introduction to a very deep game, and I can only hope I'll get the chance to learn more, and maybe think of something truly devious someday that brings me victory





    ITALY
    Czar1111

    Final Words:

    Unfortunately though, interest in the game had wained.
    CatKnight had forwarded a number of EGPs (End Game Proposals) including a
    DIAS (Draw Includes All Survivors).
    I voted no.

    My main motivation for this vote was that the game was still fluid. It
    wasn’t like we were all bashing ourselves off stalemate lines. And there
    were the NMRs. I never agree to a “draw” with a player who is not even
    playing anymore. CatKnight considered the options and proposed a new EGP which took this into account: I voted yes.

    The EGP would result in a Supply Centre grab during the last year.
    I could probably expect third place behind Turkey(Josephus I) and
    Russia(heagarty) – I could live with that.

    Germany (ForzaA) would come in fourth, having paid the price for spreading
    his forces too thinly and not trusting his allies more.

    France (State Machine) would earn a well fought fifth – having survived
    against the odds thanks only to his powerful diplomatic skills.

    Thanks to my fellow players.

    Had the game gone on things may have been different – to win as Italy
    requires patience and it is well known that Italian wins tend to be in long
    games. I draw some condolence in the fact that I survived and was on my
    way…

    Finally, thank you CatKnight for running this game.





    RUSSIA
    Heagarty


    (No Comments Submitted - Left on Honeymoon )




    TURKEY
    Josephus I



    Well, after a long time, it's all over. The goal from the beginning was for me and Russia to win. The brutal war of attrition with Italy caused me to form an alliance with him in order to guarantee my victory because England and Germany were gaining on us as I fought the Italians.

    I did for a short while consider stabbing Russia, but in the end I couldn't do it. It was the right decision and I have no regrets.

    All in all it was a good game. Austria's early NMR's made the Balkan wars a bit too easy and certainly helped the Italian decline in the east. HE certainly had the edge there for a bit.



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    FINAL RESULTS - FALL 1908

    GM Notes: First, I want to thank all of you for playing. I think we *all* learned a thing or two as the game unfolded, and I took great pleasure in being able to help. I hope to see you all again as Paradox gets the computer dip game and community going.

    I should have all your AAR statements, and will post them over the next few days since Heagarty's away. -CatKnight

    Map:


    FINAL STANDINGS:
    1T: Russia (9 SC)
    1T: Turkey (9 SC)
    3: Italy (7 SC)
    4: Germany (5 SC)
    5: France (0 SC)
    6: England /ABANDONED(4 SC)
    7: Austria (0 SC)

    MOVES:
    England: Civil Disorder
    F Barents Sea
    F English Channel
    F Irish Sea

    France: NMR # 2
    A Brest (*Dislodged, Cannot claim a SC in Winter, disbanded by GM*).

    Germany:
    A Burgundy Supports A Paris (*Cut*).
    F Denmark Supports A Kiel.
    A Kiel Supports A Ruhr.
    A Paris Supports A Burgundy.
    A Ruhr Supports A Kiel.

    Italy:
    A Marseilles - Burgundy (*Fails*).
    F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Western Mediterranean - Spain(sc).
    F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis.
    A Venice - Trieste.
    F Western Mediterranean - Spain(sc).

    Russia:
    A Berlin Supports A Munich.
    A Bohemia Supports A Munich.
    A Finland Supports A Norway.
    A Norway Supports A St Petersburg.
    A Prussia Supports A Berlin.
    A Silesia Supports A Munich.
    A St Petersburg Supports A Norway.
    A Vienna - Tyrolia.

    Turkey:
    F Adriatic Sea Hold.
    F Aegean Sea Hold.
    A Bulgaria Hold.
    A Constantinople Hold.
    A Gascony Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Brest.
    F Ionian Sea Hold.
    F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Brest.
    A Munich Hold.
    F Portugal Hold.

    Unit locations:
    03 England: F Barents Sea, F English Channel, F Irish Sea.
    05 Germany: A Burgundy, F Denmark, A Kiel, A Paris, A Ruhr.
    05 Italy: F Gulf of Lyon, A Marseilles, F Spain(sc), A Trieste, F Tunis.
    08 Russia: A Berlin, A Bohemia, A Finland, A Norway, A Prussia, A Silesia, A St Petersburg, A Tyrolia.
    09 Turkey: F Adriatic Sea, F Aegean Sea, F Brest, A Bulgaria, A Constantinople, A Gascony, F Ionian Sea, A Munich, F Portugal.

    Ownership of supply centers:
    04 England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Sweden.
    05 Germany: Belgium, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Paris.
    07 Italy: Marseilles, Naples, Rome, Spain, Trieste, Tunis, Venice.
    09 Russia: Berlin, Budapest, Moscow, Norway, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Vienna, Warsaw.
    09 Turkey: Ankara, Brest, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Munich, Portugal, Serbia, Smyrna.

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    This concludes the BEHIND THE SCENES demonstration.


    REMEMBER: This was a demonstration of the play-by-email version of the board game produced by Avalon Hill from which Paradox developed their Diplomacy Game. It is not intended to represent the brand new game. However it should help convey some of the strategy and tactics, and the importance of communication and negotiation.

    Perhaps as well it illustrates that the best way to play is via multi-player, with live opponents, but that there is a HUGE benefit to having computer AI which can jump in and take over abandoned positions so as not let missed moves ruin the game.

    This thread was closed while I was posting the demonstration. A COMMENTS THREAD was running concurrently.

    Please use the COMMENTS thread for any comments or questions you have about this Demonstration.

    THANK YOU to all volunteer players and writers and the GM!

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    Bumping up this closed thread to show newcomers what the PBEM games we've played have looked like.

    This was the "behind the scenes" log from the players. I will bump up the original game thread, too.

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    Bumped by PMed request.

    This is a sample PBEM game we played while Diplomacy was still under development to show people some strategies and how the actual "diplomacy" took place.

    It still has some value for MP games of Paradox Diplomacy.

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