They must of had a ship blocking the Strait, Veneto is a strait in the latest versions.Lord Ederon said:
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Hey finally a game that is a perfect time for me 
I'd be interested in playing. So as soon as a country is available I'll take it. I would consider myself a mediocre MP player.
I'd be interested in playing. So as soon as a country is available I'll take it. I would consider myself a mediocre MP player.
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Lord Ederon said:@#&*%!*@*!!!
Learn to live with it. A simple archduke of the HRE has nothing to seek outside the HRE.
I now officially dow you ! (which country do you play acctually ...Van Engel said:No, I'm just saying that Nijntje sucks.
) And as long as sylvie says it, its good...
(sorry for the extra OT...)
btw, my connection is really screwed up lately. It connects, disconnects, connects all the time :wacko: . There is probably something wrong with some phone cable of ours, and they are gonna change all of them as soon as we have painted the walls. This may not be in some weeks though so I may not be able to play the first sessions
Another player may have to sub it (Andrew?). The problem comes and goes though so I can't really say until on Friday afternoon if I can play or not
Another player may have to sub it (Andrew?). The problem comes and goes though so I can't really say until on Friday afternoon if I can play or not
I will be more then happy to do subbing if a country is not available for me to play right now.
Well now you've wounded my feelings. And they said how friendly you all wereSeen said:Drop Denmark! Drop Denmark !
Sure he does! And don't call Archduke simple ! Unless French frogeaters want to be in state of war with Austria!Ironfoundersson said:Learn to live with it. A simple archduke of the HRE has nothing to seek outside the HRE.
Chas said:Well now you've wounded my feelings. And they said how friendly you all were
I'm nice. I'm against dropping Denmark
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Lord Ederon said:Sure he does! And don't call Archduke simple ! Unless French frogeaters want to be in state of war with Austria!
WOuld you prefer lowly
I'd like to propse two extra rules:
1)Persian, han, cantones and japanes cultures are off limit till 1650 (or other date) This to keep OE focussed on Europe and prevent early COT snatching.
2) Editing cities between session costs one stability per city*, if stab is already at -3 it costs 3 BB. This to reduce silly province swap deals.
* A city is a European province or a ROTW province with population > 5000
1)Persian, han, cantones and japanes cultures are off limit till 1650 (or other date) This to keep OE focussed on Europe and prevent early COT snatching.
2) Editing cities between session costs one stability per city*, if stab is already at -3 it costs 3 BB. This to reduce silly province swap deals.
* A city is a European province or a ROTW province with population > 5000
Ironfoundersson said:
The first rule is tried and tested, and I'm sure it can be arranged in order to prevent über OE. Does this include India, or is India open to colonizers? (A bit unfair for OE
).However, the second one is VERY harsh. Consider the fact you might only lose -1 if you possess a CB on the person you DOW for a fake war. This means that rule would make it worse to request edits unless under very special circumstances (truce for example, though truces pass quickly). I'm not in favour of this version.
Flame of Udûn said:
That's the idea yes. If there was a game function to do it I'm sure it wouldn't allow breaking NAPs without massive incurrance of BB and/or stab drops.
Chaingun said:The first rule is tried and tested, and I'm sure it can be arranged in order to prevent über OE. Does this include India, or is India open to colonizers? (A bit unfair for OE
India, SE Asia and Indonesia are open. OE can, just like any other country colonize there or grab CoTs. Holding them might require a bit more naval orientation from OE though
Chaingun said:
I don't like huge province swaps in Europe, that's why I propose it. How about this:
Editing more than one city between session costs one stability per extra city*, if stab is already at -3 it costs 3 BB. This to reduce silly province swap deals.
* A city is a European province or a ROTW province with population > 5000
This allows for small province swaps like Tangiers from Portugal to Spain or Calais from England to France but not silly thing like all Spanish Italian provinces to Venice
Ironfoundersson said:India, SE Asia and Indonesia are open. OE can, just like any other country colonize there or grab CoTs. Holding them might require a bit more naval orientation from OE though
I don't like huge province swaps in Europe, that's why I propose it. How about this:
Editing more than one city between session costs one stability per extra city*, if stab is already at -3 it costs 3 BB. This to reduce silly province swap deals.
* A city is a European province or a ROTW province with population > 5000
This allows for small province swaps like Tangiers from Portugal to Spain or Calais from England to France but not silly thing like all Spanish Italian provinces to Venice
Sounds a bit better, but I still think that -1 stab for every two extra provinces (rounded upwards if partial) and 1.5 BB for extra province if a -3 stab would be more lenient.
Ironfoundersson said:Holding them might require a bit more naval orientation from OE though
You know, my favourite OE of all times was the one in Dishonour Before Death 1. Check it out, and you'll learn more about naval powers than you thought was possible.
An example: I as Prussia was forbidden from warring Denmark by OE. He used a 260k army waiting outside my coast to strengthen his argumentation.