Given that I tried to make some systematic observations on BB and that I got some feedback on a list I posted in another thread, I thought it might be a good idea to start a BB list.
Things that give BB:
Things that reduce BB:
Given that my observations are on very hard, and Byakhiam confirmed some numbers for normal, I assume that the difficult level has no influence on BB from these actions. However, BB reduction over time depends on the difficult level and piety. The formula can be found here.
Also, you loose 1/3 BB when your character dies.
There is a one-to-one relationship between BB and the Monthly Vassal Loyalty Loss (MVLL), but it is not one-for-one. Your vassals will loose 0.4*BB loyalty per month, so here is how the actions given above affect the reputation modifier:
Impact on reputation modifier of vassal loyalty (bad):
Impact on reputation modifier of vassal loyalty (good):
* Creating a bishopric does not reduce BB but gives a piety bonus. Granting additional titles to a bishop does not give piety, but the usual BB bonus. Revoking a title from an (Arch-)bishop does cost piety and BB for ALL titles of the bishop.
In this older badboy thread most (if not all) of the information given above can be found too. Here is the relation between your BB and reputation:
Please comment, provide additional points, and point out mistakes here!
Things that give BB:
- grab a title: 1BB
- usurp a title: 0BB
- take a title in an offensive war: 2BB
- take a title in a defensive war: 1BB
- a discovered assassination attempted: 1BB
- a discovered assassination attempted against another ruler: 2BB
- revoke a count title: 1BB
- revoke a duke title: 0.75BB
- force someone to yield a claim: 0BB
- diplomatic vassalization: 0.75BB per province hold by the target directly, not including vassals
- sneak attack, i.e. DOW while troops are in enemies territory: 2BB,does not apply to religious enemies
Things that reduce BB:
- grant a title: -0.5BB
- create a bishopric*: 0BB, but you get the piety boost for indirect BB reduction
- a successful assassination in your court: -1BB (this no longer is true for Deus Vult)
- give up a title in a war: 0BB, but you get a claim on the title
- yield a claim in a war: -1BB
Given that my observations are on very hard, and Byakhiam confirmed some numbers for normal, I assume that the difficult level has no influence on BB from these actions. However, BB reduction over time depends on the difficult level and piety. The formula can be found here.
Also, you loose 1/3 BB when your character dies.
There is a one-to-one relationship between BB and the Monthly Vassal Loyalty Loss (MVLL), but it is not one-for-one. Your vassals will loose 0.4*BB loyalty per month, so here is how the actions given above affect the reputation modifier:
Impact on reputation modifier of vassal loyalty (bad):
- grab a title: 0.4MVLL
- usurp a title: 0MVLL
- take a title in an offensive war: 0.8MVLL
- take a title in a defensive war: 0.4MVLL
- a discovered assassination attempted: 0.4MVLL
- a discovered assassination attempted against another ruler: 0.8MVLL
- revoke a count title: 0.4MVLL
- revoke a duke title: 0.3MVLL
- force someone to yield a claim: 0MVLL
- diplomatic vassalization: 0.3MVLL per province hold by the target directly, not including vassals
- sneak attack, i.e. DOW while troops are in enemies territory: 0.8MVLL, does not apply to religious enemies
Impact on reputation modifier of vassal loyalty (good):
- grant a title: -0.2MVLL
- create a bishopric*: 0MVLL
- a successful assassination in your court: -0.4MVLL
- give up a title in a war: MVLL
- yield a claim in a war: -0.4MVLL
* Creating a bishopric does not reduce BB but gives a piety bonus. Granting additional titles to a bishop does not give piety, but the usual BB bonus. Revoking a title from an (Arch-)bishop does cost piety and BB for ALL titles of the bishop.
In this older badboy thread most (if not all) of the information given above can be found too. Here is the relation between your BB and reputation:
WiWi Walker said:All was tested on difficulty “hard” by initiate an action then save and took a look into the savegame file.
Could be that conclusions on other difficulty levels differ from this.
0 BB = We have an honourable reputation
1-2 BB = We have a respectable reputation
3-5 BB = We have a slightly tarnished reputation
6-10 BB = We have a tarnished reputation
11-15 BB = We have a rather bad reputation
16-20 BB = We have a very bad reputation
21-25 BB = We have an extremly bad reputation
26-30 BB = We are dishonourable scum
30+ BB = We are worse than Dishonourable scum
Please comment, provide additional points, and point out mistakes here!
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