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Vincent Julien said:
It's not really Romania, though, is it? :D Transylvania would be more apt. Why didn't you just give it to Hungary?
Yes, most of what you see is Transylvania, though I don't think Vicky allows Transylvania to be released separately. That's what the game called it, so... :D I also expected that at some point I could add to it.

Much of what is today Romania is on this map occupied by Russia (Wallachia and Moldavia having been occupied by them in their various wars against the Ottomans). And you can see in one of the maps that most of that area seemed to be under major revolt!

You may see more on this topic in the future... Or you may not. :rolleyes:

It was not given to Hungary due to the large German population there. Prussia wanted a protectorate status, to avoid having to go to war in the future to protect the rights of German Romanians. Also, Prussia didn't want a strong Hungary next door. A nice, small, controllable (and dependent!) Hungary, Slovakia, Croatia, etc. will do just fine! :D

Thank you!

Rensslaer
 
Nice!

I take it the number one and two reasons why Prussia did not intervene in the Russian war against Poland and Ukraine was Debt and not wanting to face the Russian Hordes? That would make sense to me. :)

Now that Prussia controls all of Central Europe, how does the rest of the world view her? I would be forced to conclude that France, Russia, and Great Britain are not all that happy, but what about the U.S. and the Crown of the North?
 
You could have modded a Transylvania (Or, rather, Siebenbürgen) into the game, though. It's relatively easy to do. I'm not sure where you could get the flags from - mabye a mod site - but all the rest is fairly easy.

How big is the German minority in the game, btw? I remember seeing bonkers things regarding Eastern Europe's demographics when I used to play.
 
I can't go back to check right now, but to my recollection there were at least 2-3 provinces in Romania that were majority German!

I'm really not sure this is inaccurate. Common sense says that in an Austrian-German empire (A-H), Germans would be free to move wherever. And they might like the warmer, more temperate climes of the Black Sea area. Just a guess, but I think it might stand up.

Renss
 
Did you have to mod the map to get all of the former Prussian "inheritance" in the Balkins to go to Romania? Regardless, it was probably a wise move. Though I am concerned about Russia's bold steps to goble some of those states up. Debt is surely still a concern, not to mention what France and the UK are thinking at present, but you simply cannot allow Russia to get too strong by eating those former A-H nation-states.
 
Well I might understand letting Russia nibble away at Poland and Ukraine - the former especially is hardly a state and the latter not much better, but the other Balkan states might well need defending in the future - assuming they don't all end up prosecuting wars of national glory against each other.
 
I understand what's going on here!

Munich warned him not to interfere with Russia, or Prussia would face the wrath of the South German Federation! Bwahahaha!

The SGF has lured Prussia into a false sense of security. Soon, the trap will be sprung!
 
Ah those pesky Russians are looking for trouble, and they'll get it :mad:
It's tricky to attack them when they're full of revolts everywhere.

Cute Romania indded, with Fogaras still being the desert we know :D
 
Rocketman said:
I understand what's going on here!
The SGF has lured Prussia into a false sense of security. Soon, the trap will be sprung!
:rofl: You know... If there were one thing I would re-do if I had to do it over again (I can't now... the game is played and done) I would have modded SGF out of existance when the rest of Germany was unified. It looks ridiculous where it is. And, as you will see, they do end up causing more trouble later.

Let's just say 1) no good deed goes unpunished, and 2) it is really, really hard to assault mega-entrenched troops in the mountains around Munich! ;)

coz1 said:
Did you have to mod the map to get all of the former Prussian "inheritance" in the Balkins to go to Romania?
Actually, when I was planning the mod-event, this became a rather complicated problem. As I recall, I had to release Croatia first, then the Italian territories, then Slovakia, Poland, Ukraine, etc. Then go back in (non-event) as Austria, turn over one Croatian province to Croatia (that was instead scripted to go to Serbia), release Serbia, then Hungary. Or something... Hungary had to be done last to avoid its taking everyone else's territory. And I then had to release Romania last once Prussia had taken it over. It was a mess, and I couldn't get one event to do it all. I had to do some manual manipulation. :wacko:

Thanks! More stuff coming tomorrow, probably. I'm trying to maintain one update every 1-2 days (and once a week on my other AAR, though I'm behind times...). I have a couple of scenes written already that you probably won't see for a couple months or more, but I'm behind on the imminent updates.

Renss
 
Rensslaer said:
...The world looked to Prussia, to see if it would intervene, either in support of, or in opposition to the Polish nation-state. It did neither.
i see that you have 501 manpower, zero leadership, and £74. i am not sure, but i don't think that 501 manpower and zero leadership is enough to go to war with, but especially war with Russia. not to mention that £74 means that you are still in debt! ! ! ! how much debt did you have when these events occured?

AWESOME! i am offline for 6 days and come back to see a Germany that i LIKE! :D :D :D (the hurricane wiped out my cable i-net connection for two days, and personal reasons took care of the rest.)

LOVE IT! ! ! ! :cool:
 
GhostWriter said:
not to mention that £74 means that you are still in debt! ! ! ! how much debt did you have when these events occured?
Not alot... :rolleyes:

Really! :eek:o

Okay... 800,000 pounds... :eek:

No problem, though... I've had worse. :rofl:

Well.... You know... The democracy was expensive, and the social reforms, etc... And rail networks. What can I say? I'm a typical government.

Great to see you back, GhostWriter! I'd missed you. Naturally, I'm too dense to put together that you were in Florida. Sorry!

Renss
 
Welcome back ghostwriter. We all miss you.

Rens, 800,000 is nothing compare to what you used to have.

I just have one question. Who's next??? :D
 
Dare I ask, but roughly how much of your budget it taking up just servicing that debt, let alone repaying it. If these things keep happening I think a second bankruptcy can only be a matter of time.
 
stnylan said:
Dare I ask, but roughly how much of your budget it taking up just servicing that debt, let alone repaying it. If these things keep happening I think a second bankruptcy can only be a matter of time.
Hmm... Well, I shan't comment, except to say that, given fair weather and smooth sailing, Prussia's much stronger economy and lower interest rates make it a far different situation. The 800,000 pounds debt in 1884 isn't half as bad as the 900,000 was in the 1860s. It comes out to about 250 pounds per month in interest, if I recall (you'll see some figures on this in about 3 updates or so).

However, I am cognizant of the fact that while a peacetime budget can sustain those interest payments, a full-scale war would send the budget careening toward a wall again. :eek:

-- EDIT --

I guess I'll add this... While the previous debt levels, and subsequent bankruptcy were entirely my fault as a player, Prussia's current debt level is laid entirely at the hands of this Kaiser Friedrich III guy... the one who is so liberal that he wanted welfare entitlements and major democratic reforms no matter what it would do to the budget! :eek: That is, actually, how I have been playing this whole game -- the actions of Prussia are determined by the mood and philosophy of the historical figures I've put in control. Modified, of course, by a few carefully selected ministers who tend to listen to me more than them. :rolleyes:

Rensslaer
 
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Invade Switzerland. They don't like it up 'em.
 
snowforest.jpg


Unlike several days in the previous week, this was a peaceful morning. Chill, but quiet. Leutnant Sobczak’s cavalry horses crunched their hooves on a crisp layer of snow as they scouted to the east of Ljubljana.

“The way I hear it, the whole of Russia’s frontier is in turmoil,” Leutnant Sobczak said. He had spoken to his superiors regularly, and gotten various news updates. He shared the latest news with Feldwebel Skiedweza because he was Polish… And because they had become friends, of a sort. Krysz was someone easy to talk to, in any case. They had enough in common. “For that reason, the Russians haven’t been able to respond effectively against the Polish uprising. They are busy, instead, in the Ukraine, and in Wallachia.”

It was now the end of November, and General Schwedt’s main body had engaged several pockets of resistance near Ljubljana and Trieste. Reinforcements had arrived by sea, also, and the rebels had been mostly forced underground or scattered to wander home. Sobczak and his horses had been sent to test the loyalty of some of the mountain towns to the south and east. Though they had been ambushed twice, with the loss of two to wounds, most of the countryside remained unruffled by political considerations.

While both Sobczak and Skiedweza spoke Slavic languages – of some kin and like sound to Slovenian – Krysz had demonstrated the worth of ten-months experience stationed in the region. He not only knew the lay of the land, and the customs. He also had come to understand the local dialects, which had proved invaluable at every town they’d come through.

“Perhaps the Russians won’t have to crush it,” Krysz suggested, cynically. “Everyone keeps saying that Prussia won’t allow a free Poland. That they…” he caught himself. “…we, will send the Army and… And crush the Poles.” Skiedweza had wandered into uncertain territory without even realizing how each little thing might be taken. By a Prussian Czech? Where did that leave Sobczak? Krysz felt he was understanding. Perhaps sympathetic, but…

The leutnant made a skeptical noise in the bottom of his throat. “People will talk. Fools as well, and sooner.”

“You don’t believe them?” Krysz asked, half inquiring, half disbelieving.

“Herr Skiedweza,” Sobczak said – he was one of the few non-Poles who could say his name with some ability – “I do not see it. I have been stationed in Prussian Poland for many years, to keep the peace. And in the time that I have served, our instructions were always to tread lightly, and to respect the Polish people. I know it for fact in my own homeland. Praha has been a place of relative peace for many years. Only the socialists cause trouble. And I believe that is mostly the case in Poland as well.”

A long silence was punctuated only by a few hoofbeats. “Not all of them.” Krysz hesitated at the end, unsure whether to go on. But Sobczak looked at him and held his gaze. Krysz’ eyes shied away. “My brother was killed in one of the revolts. Breslau. Many years ago. He was a nationalist. But I can see what you say, today. The socialists are the ones who cause trouble today.”

Sobczak nodded. “And, of course, there was von Moltke, when he went to crush a much smaller rebellion in Poland. More than a decade ago.” More hoofbeats. “But I’ve sensed no inherent hostility in recent years. The world has changed, I think. And the Kaiser has changed.”

Skiedweza started when they flushed a trio of birds from a tree along the path, lofting a spray of snow with them. He was conditioned to treat any sudden noise as a potential danger. But it was only birds. They winged away quickly. Gracefully. Peacefully.

“I have hope,” Sobczak said. “That the future will not be as bad as we fear.”
 
It seems your Prussia is building a country not terribly unlike what an enlightened Austria-Hungary might have been - that is, trying to develope a society full of minorities that are peaceful and willing to live alongside each other. Perhaps another reason why Freddy gave up so many freedoms to the people. And as an honorary Pole (not Polish but practically a brother to my Polish best friend) it does my heart proud to at least see them live in some peace in your Germany, even if they don't get their own country (or for very long at any rate.)

And re: your debt - it doesn't really play out like this in game, but in life, having some debt really isn't such a bad thing, as long as it's debt for a reason. However, I don't see Prussia needing it to establish credit. ;)
 
Hope is a very good thing, but one man's hope is another man's despair.
 
stnylan said:
Hope is a very good thing, but one man's hope is another man's despair.
I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that... :)

I had considered working that into the update. Making it somehow darker, and reflective of those who have hope and those who lose it. But I believed it would muddy the scene and make it less effective.

In truth, I remain an optimist, so I suppose I wished not to make it darker because I believe the Slovenes will eventually enjoy the freedom that the Poles will enjoy. Presumably!

Rensslaer