I don't agree that any edits should be done. If you want to lower BB, release vassals.
If Austria releases all the vassals she can in game, she's still left way above the limit, I estimate.Slargos said:I don't agree that any edits should be done. If you want to lower BB, release vassals.
Slargos said:I don't agree that any edits should be done. If you want to lower BB, release vassals.
devil said:yep, quite a bad statement from hmmm.
Are you disputing the fact that the consequences of high BB have completely unexpectedly and potentially catastrophically changed, are you disputing the fact that Hive would have played Austria differently had he known this was going to happen, or are you disputing that a player being placed in a bad position through no fault of his own could merit game edits?World Conqueror said:No, how hard is it, if you dont want BB dont dow! The consuequenses of it might be extremely bad, though that is a total different matter. One cannot come after annexing some minors demanding edit for his high BB just because he decided to go on rampage(it might be a necessity to annex that nation(s), though that is also a different matter).
I just think this is the biggest effect I've seen that, or at least the biggest change that doesn't affect most of the nations in the game. If Hive's happy, then I'm happy. I'm only trying to explain my point to Hmmm... now.Slargos said:As Hive noted, there are other changes that would be worthy of getting edits aswell.
I've never to my best recollection been in a game that featured edits because nations were hurt by patch changes.
Owen said:Are you disputing the fact that the consequences of high BB have completely unexpectedly and potentially catastrophically changed, are you disputing the fact that Hive would have played Austria differently had he known this was going to happen, or are you disputing that a player being placed in a bad position through no fault of his own could merit game edits?
I suppose you might be disputing all three, I just don't know.
Well, clearly he's the player, so it's completely his fault he has high BB. However, it's not his fault he is now very likely to be hit by a civil war.World Conqueror said:I am not in ANY way disputing this, BUT all I am saying is that if you gain alot of BB it is your own fault. I am not saying Hive did wrong, he badly needed to expand, but still it is his own fault gaining the BB by doing so. However are YOU disputing it isnt in any way his own fault in getting in that situation in the first place?
Owen said:Well, clearly he's the player, so it's completely his fault he has high BB. However, it's not his fault he is now very likely to be hit by a civil war.
You must be disputing one of my points, and it seems like it's the last one, "...or are you disputing that a player being placed in a bad position through no fault of his own could merit game edits?" but I can't really tell.
OK. I disagree, depending on circumstances, but let's leave it at that.World Conqueror said:Alright I dispute the last one.
Hive said:- Some of the edits suggested by Forzaa. Most notably giving Aragon 360d to his land investment, as I cannot see a reason for that. Braindead AI doesn't touch the sliders, so they should be where he left them.
Hive said:Some of the edits suggested by Forzaa. Most notably giving Aragon 360d to his land investment, as I cannot see a reason for that. Braindead AI doesn't touch the sliders, so they should be where he left them.