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Last edited by Tunch Khan; 24-12-2003 at 08:58.
si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
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Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
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si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
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OttoMania - your link to the Ottoman Culture and Lifestyle in EU III ................. Neo-Ottomans thread
Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
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si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
Member of the OTFTRC - Off Topic Friends of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus -------- Istanbul Panorama 360°
OttoMania - your link to the Ottoman Culture and Lifestyle in EU III ................. Neo-Ottomans thread
Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
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si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
Member of the OTFTRC - Off Topic Friends of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus -------- Istanbul Panorama 360°
OttoMania - your link to the Ottoman Culture and Lifestyle in EU III ................. Neo-Ottomans thread
Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
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Last edited by Tunch Khan; 26-12-2003 at 04:56.
si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
Member of the OTFTRC - Off Topic Friends of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus -------- Istanbul Panorama 360°
OttoMania - your link to the Ottoman Culture and Lifestyle in EU III ................. Neo-Ottomans thread
Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
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Last edited by Tunch Khan; 24-12-2003 at 08:56.
si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
Member of the OTFTRC - Off Topic Friends of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus -------- Istanbul Panorama 360°
OttoMania - your link to the Ottoman Culture and Lifestyle in EU III ................. Neo-Ottomans thread
Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
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si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
Member of the OTFTRC - Off Topic Friends of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus -------- Istanbul Panorama 360°
OttoMania - your link to the Ottoman Culture and Lifestyle in EU III ................. Neo-Ottomans thread
Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
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Last edited by Tunch Khan; 24-12-2003 at 08:43.
si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
Member of the OTFTRC - Off Topic Friends of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus -------- Istanbul Panorama 360°
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Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
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si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
Member of the OTFTRC - Off Topic Friends of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus -------- Istanbul Panorama 360°
OttoMania - your link to the Ottoman Culture and Lifestyle in EU III ................. Neo-Ottomans thread
Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
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si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
Member of the OTFTRC - Off Topic Friends of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus -------- Istanbul Panorama 360°
OttoMania - your link to the Ottoman Culture and Lifestyle in EU III ................. Neo-Ottomans thread
Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
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si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
Member of the OTFTRC - Off Topic Friends of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus -------- Istanbul Panorama 360°
OttoMania - your link to the Ottoman Culture and Lifestyle in EU III ................. Neo-Ottomans thread
Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
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si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
Member of the OTFTRC - Off Topic Friends of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus -------- Istanbul Panorama 360°
OttoMania - your link to the Ottoman Culture and Lifestyle in EU III ................. Neo-Ottomans thread
Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
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si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
Member of the OTFTRC - Off Topic Friends of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus -------- Istanbul Panorama 360°
OttoMania - your link to the Ottoman Culture and Lifestyle in EU III ................. Neo-Ottomans thread
Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
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si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
Member of the OTFTRC - Off Topic Friends of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus -------- Istanbul Panorama 360°
OttoMania - your link to the Ottoman Culture and Lifestyle in EU III ................. Neo-Ottomans thread
Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
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si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
Member of the OTFTRC - Off Topic Friends of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus -------- Istanbul Panorama 360°
OttoMania - your link to the Ottoman Culture and Lifestyle in EU III ................. Neo-Ottomans thread
Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
Tunch:
Excellent! Have you checked how the clergy effect works in 1.02 with these? Having several clergy pops in a state polarizes the consciousness very rapidly now, might need tweaking.
Another less related thing: Do clergy affect somehow pops of different religion? If they do, how? Anatolia would be an easy place to check, I'd hate to see rabbies lower consciousness of non-Jewish pops.
Pity comes for free, but jealousy must be earned - Lauri Tähkä
Hearts of Iron II beta AAR Guardian of Democracy
Unfortunately i haven't found a chance to check it yet. However, i tried to add as minimum professional POP's as possible to maintain the game balance, and adding only a very limited clergy so as to keep the Anatolia a little more stable than the Balkan's since there weren't any major uprisings in Anatolia when compared to Balkans.
si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
Member of the OTFTRC - Off Topic Friends of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus -------- Istanbul Panorama 360°
OttoMania - your link to the Ottoman Culture and Lifestyle in EU III ................. Neo-Ottomans thread
Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
The size of Turkish pops in 1350 and 1357 seems a few orders of magnitude larger that it should. Greek pops are 144. Turkish 35. Turks were hardly 10% in the islands much less 20%. OTOH in 1836 Turks will be more than 12 compared to Greek 144 in 1355 and 1356.Originally Posted by Tunch Khan
Perhaps you made a mistake on the province numbers? 1357 and 1350 are Rodos and Mitilini respectively
Oh, they are not farmers. They often craftsmen, clerks, or capitalist.....
I didn't want to create too many professional POP's not to disturb game balance. Do you think the Jewish or Arab clerks or capitalists will find jobs at Bukhara on 1835 thinking of game turns? If so, let me know and i can edit the POP's.
Cheers
si vis pacem para bellum Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made.-Otto von Bismarck
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Who is this Tunch Khan? I thought Djem de Sayd was the only Ottoman Pretender the Christians had their hands on? ~ aylo1
To be honest, this thread might as well be closed now. We've seen Tunch Khan - I can't see that there's anywhere else to go from here. ~ Austen
........ **Thread Monster** ... History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
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