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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycortas2
    Hi all,

    Okay, i just d/l the VIP for te first time. It says it includes the most recent pop mod.

    I saw that virtually all of my work was NOT in this. Persia was screwed up, the levant was messed up, Java/Sumatra were back to their super pops, etc.

    The Ottomans are back up to 50m people... should be 24.5m

    Some one messed with my Austria files adding hundreds of thousands of clerks & craftsmen. No wonder Austria is still doing really well! I checked and this gives them more clerks than Britain and France combined.

    Cyprus, Crete, Malta & various other islands pops were much to high.

    What is going on here guys?

    Mike
    did you check if the files were the correct ones?
    i will review all that again to see if i forgot to delete some file...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycortas2
    Hi all,

    Okay, i just d/l the VIP for te first time. It says it includes the most recent pop mod.

    I saw that virtually all of my work was NOT in this. Persia was screwed up, the levant was messed up, Java/Sumatra were back to their super pops, etc.

    The Ottomans are back up to 50m people... should be 24.5m

    Some one messed with my Austria files adding hundreds of thousands of clerks & craftsmen. No wonder Austria is still doing really well! I checked and this gives them more clerks than Britain and France combined.

    Cyprus, Crete, Malta & various other islands pops were much to high.

    What is going on here guys?

    Mike
    Mike,

    Can you post a list of the provinces and relative .csv affected? We are reviewing the POP's.
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    Pop mix ups

    Hi all,

    list of incorrect Pop files:

    Both AegabArchipelago files(Greek,Turkish)
    Both Algeria files (Arab,Tuareg)
    All 4 Anatolia files; the Greek and Armenian MAY be correct, the Turkish is certainly not correct!

    Austria_German_Catholic
    Banat_Romanian_Orthodox
    Bohemia_Czech_Catholic
    Bohemia_German_Catholic
    Bulgaria_Bulgarian
    Bulgaria_Turkish (Bit too high)
    Carinthia_German_Catholic
    EastRumilia_Bulgarian
    EastRumillia_Turkish
    Epirus_Albanian
    Epirus_Greek
    All 3 Fars files (Persia)
    All 3 Ghilan files (Persia)
    Ionian (too many clergy)
    JavaMahayana
    JavaFolk
    JavaSunni
    All Jibal files (persia)
    Jordan
    All Ghilan files (persia)
    All Kerman files (Persia)
    All Khorason files (Persia)
    All Khuzestan files (Persia)
    All Konstantinople files
    Both Korea files
    All KurdoArmenia files
    All Luristan files (Persia)
    All Macedonian files
    Malta
    Both Morocco files
    Palestine_Muslim
    Palestine_Jewish
    Palestine_Christian
    Rumillia_Greek
    Rumillia_Turkish
    Serbia_Sunni
    Serbia_Turkish
    I feel those two are overlapping each other; halve each of them and the pos would be correct.

    Slovakia_Slovak_Catholic
    Slovakia_Hungarian_Protestant
    Slovakia_Hungarian_Catholic
    Slovakia_Ukrainian
    Sumatra_JavanSunni
    Sumatra_MalayanSunni
    All Syria files
    All Temesvar files

    Why are both Tunis & Tunisia files being used? They cover the same area and are redundant. They also give Tunisia about a 25% population boost.

    I have to admit i do wish there were more Danish virgins in the game!
    They are the center of my empire!

    Anyway, all of those files have incorrect pops.

    Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycortas2
    Hi all,

    list of incorrect Pop files:

    Anyway, all of those files have incorrect pops.

    Michael
    Michael,

    This is a rather long list. Who modified those files? Or are you refering to a vanilla problem? Cause if no one edit those files, they will continue with the vanilla files as default.

    For example, no one modified Korea, and what exactly is wrong with them, just saying that is wrong won't have it changed, also point the problem. Malta is another example, no one edit those.
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    Question

    Lycortas, you are looking into:
    ..\Victoria\scenarios\VIPscen\pops
    right?
    because i cannot understand very well your complain about the POPs... maybe it is me, can you clarify it?
    while playing the VIP scenario you get wrong POPs? then you look at the files and they are old ones different from the POPmod files?
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    Genralisimo, Pimparel,

    When you play VIP, does Austria have a horrendous amount of clerks? Does the Ottoman empire have 50m people? Does Korea have 40m people or so? (instead of the 9m it should have)

    These are all errors. The files i sent in a couple of months ago fixed those problems. I do not remember if i sent you Korea's files as i have been constantly updating what i have finished.

    Some of these files i modified, but my versions are not for the most part in the VIP. Some of these files others modified and are incorrect.

    I also have files or Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Bukhara, and Khiva.

    Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycortas2
    I do not remember if i sent you Korea's files as i have been constantly updating what i have finished.

    Some of these files i modified, but my versions are not for the most part in the VIP. Some of these files others modified and are incorrect.

    I also have files or Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Bukhara, and Khiva.
    Mike, those files made into POPMod? Cause yesterday me and Gen. fixed a lot of POP files, but I don't recall any file from Korea.

    Can you send those modded files by e-mail to me or to Gen., it better to him as he is building the next release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimparel
    Mike, those files made into POPMod? Cause yesterday me and Gen. fixed a lot of POP files, but I don't recall any file from Korea.

    Can you send those modded files by e-mail to me or to Gen., it better to him as he is building the next release.

    Pimparel
    what pimparel said, we do not have those files that you are mentioning... so we could not implement your changes...
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    Check This!!!!

    WARNING!!!
    pimparel reported to me that a LOT of files from the POPmod doesn't have the needed "empty line" at the end of the file.
    PLEASE, check your files before sending them!

    For example:

    Code:
    Province;Nationality;Religion;Workforce;Ideology;Consciousness;Militancy;Size<enter>
    2253;African_Minor;Orthodox;aristocrats;;;;1<enter>
    2253;African_Minor;Orthodox;clergymen;;;;1<enter>
    <here it is the end of the file>
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    Pops

    Hey,

    Have i been sending mine correctly or are mine all screwed up?

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycortas2
    Hey,

    Have i been sending mine correctly or are mine all screwed up?

    Mike
    Well, i do not have all your files (because it looks like they weren't included in the POPmod), but the list of pimparel was huge, so some of them can be yours...
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    Here is a list of POP files that are with the mentioned 'BUG':

    Code:
    bosnia_sunni.csv
    bosnia_orthodox.csv
    bosnia_catholic.csv
    madagascar_protestant.csv
    madagascar_arabic.csv
    egypt_sunni.csv
    egypt_jewish.csv
    egypt_orthodox.csv
    ceylon_sinhala.csv
    serbia_jewish.csv
    serbia_bulgarian.csv
    serbia_sunni.csv
    sumatera_malayansunni.csv
    philippines_mestizo.csv
    java_northern_min.csv
    borneo_northern_min.csv
    borneo_hakka.csv
    siam_southern_min.csv
    vietnam_montagnard.csv
    vietnam_yue.csv
    vietnam_southern_min.csv
    cambodia_southern_min.csv
    arakan_burmanese.csv
    arakan_arkanese.csv
    sunda_sunni.csv
    switzerland_catholic.csv
    switzerland_protestant.csv
    chihli.csv
    shan_asian_minor.csv
    shan_burmanese.csv
    pegu_mon.csv
    pegu_burmanese.csv
    mian_asian_minor.csv
    aeganarchipelago_turkish.csv
    albania_catholic.csv
    anatolia_jewish.csv
    anatolia_greek.csv
    anatolia_armenian.csv
    azerbaidjan_azersunni.csv
    bukhara_arabic.csv
    bukhara_jewish.csv
    bulgaria_turkish.csv
    eastrumilia_turkish.csv
    iraq_jewish.csv
    iraq_kurdish.csv
    iraq_turkish.csv
    konstantiniyye_italian.csv
    konstantiniyye_jewish.csv
    konstantiniyye_armenian.csv
    konstantiniyye_greek.csv
    kurdoarmenia_turkish.csv
    kurdoarmenia_arabic_orthodox.csv
    lithuania_belorussian.csv
    lithuania_russian.csv
    lithuania_jewish.csv
    lithuania_polish.csv
    lithuania_lithuanian.csv
    macedonia_albanian.csv
    macedonia_jewish.csv
    macedonia_serb.csv
    macedonia_turkish.csv
    macedonia_greek.csv
    palestina_turkish.csv
    serbia_turkish.csv
    syria_turkish.csv
    syria_kurdish.csv
    syria_jewish.csv
    rumilia_turkish.csv
    macedonia_bulgarian.csv
    byelarus_lithuanian2.csv
    byelarus_lithuanian1.csv
    yunnan.csv #This file is empty!!!
    habsburg_jewish.csv
    poland_russian.csv
    poland_protestant.csv
    poland_catholic.csv
    Please be careful, if you don't add the empty line in the end of the file, the last line won't be read.

    As example I remember a file from oceania that the last line was 50 farmers, resulting in 200.000 people missing!!! This must be the largest abduction ever seen in any sci-fi flick.
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    Hi,

    Just wondering when the next compilation will take place - things like the new Ceylon files by Dayvit781 and myself aren't included yet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Wilkinson
    Hi,

    Just wondering when the next compilation will take place - things like the new Ceylon files by Dayvit781 and myself aren't included yet...
    i haven't seen Halibutt for a while here... but i am trying to include all those things in the VIP mod...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pimparel
    Here is a list of POP files that are with the mentioned 'BUG':

    Code:
    bosnia_sunni.csv
    bosnia_orthodox.csv
    bosnia_catholic.csv
    madagascar_protestant.csv
    madagascar_arabic.csv
    egypt_sunni.csv
    egypt_jewish.csv
    egypt_orthodox.csv
    ceylon_sinhala.csv
    serbia_jewish.csv
    serbia_bulgarian.csv
    serbia_sunni.csv
    sumatera_malayansunni.csv
    philippines_mestizo.csv
    java_northern_min.csv
    borneo_northern_min.csv
    borneo_hakka.csv
    siam_southern_min.csv
    vietnam_montagnard.csv
    vietnam_yue.csv
    vietnam_southern_min.csv
    cambodia_southern_min.csv
    arakan_burmanese.csv
    arakan_arkanese.csv
    sunda_sunni.csv
    switzerland_catholic.csv
    switzerland_protestant.csv
    chihli.csv
    shan_asian_minor.csv
    shan_burmanese.csv
    pegu_mon.csv
    pegu_burmanese.csv
    mian_asian_minor.csv
    aeganarchipelago_turkish.csv
    albania_catholic.csv
    anatolia_jewish.csv
    anatolia_greek.csv
    anatolia_armenian.csv
    azerbaidjan_azersunni.csv
    bukhara_arabic.csv
    bukhara_jewish.csv
    bulgaria_turkish.csv
    eastrumilia_turkish.csv
    iraq_jewish.csv
    iraq_kurdish.csv
    iraq_turkish.csv
    konstantiniyye_italian.csv
    konstantiniyye_jewish.csv
    konstantiniyye_armenian.csv
    konstantiniyye_greek.csv
    kurdoarmenia_turkish.csv
    kurdoarmenia_arabic_orthodox.csv
    lithuania_belorussian.csv
    lithuania_russian.csv
    lithuania_jewish.csv
    lithuania_polish.csv
    lithuania_lithuanian.csv
    macedonia_albanian.csv
    macedonia_jewish.csv
    macedonia_serb.csv
    macedonia_turkish.csv
    macedonia_greek.csv
    palestina_turkish.csv
    serbia_turkish.csv
    syria_turkish.csv
    syria_kurdish.csv
    syria_jewish.csv
    rumilia_turkish.csv
    macedonia_bulgarian.csv
    byelarus_lithuanian2.csv
    byelarus_lithuanian1.csv
    yunnan.csv #This file is empty!!!
    habsburg_jewish.csv
    poland_russian.csv
    poland_protestant.csv
    poland_catholic.csv
    Please be careful, if you don't add the empty line in the end of the file, the last line won't be read.

    As example I remember a file from oceania that the last line was 50 farmers, resulting in 200.000 people missing!!! This must be the largest abduction ever seen in any sci-fi flick.
    Please note that many of those were meant as a dummy file (without any content) snce the game apparently looks for them even after their deletion from the list. poland_russian.csv
    poland_protestant.csv
    poland_catholic.csv for instance were long abandoned and replaced by nation-specific files. There's a list of dummy files in the readme.
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    The Soviets won the war. We happened to be nearby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halibutt
    Please note that many of those were meant as a dummy file (without any content) snce the game apparently looks for them even after their deletion from the list. poland_russian.csv
    poland_protestant.csv
    poland_catholic.csv for instance were long abandoned and replaced by nation-specific files. There's a list of dummy files in the readme.
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    No, they had content and they were missing the last line, only one was empty, which is marked.

    And there is no need of dummy files, is just exclude them from scenario.eug

    Also you should take a look into this thread: http://www.europa-universalis.com/fo...d.php?t=133926
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    I tested it with the previus patch and the game lwas looking for some files even after deleting them from scenario.eug. The problem is that apparently you installed the patch after POP mod. Was it the case?


    I'll have to check that again though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycortas2
    I see Tunch has not yet posted about the the large Turkish minorities in Luxembourg!
    Hi Mike,

    I'm sorry i've been busy for a while, so i totally forgot to update the Lux.csv file. However, i have Kreuzberg.csv file where the large Turkish minority is properly represented. I have found sources that trace the history of early Turkish settlers to Berlin around 16th century. Or was it 1960's ? nevermind, they were there probably before the Osthrogoths and Vizigoths.

    Lol, let joke aside, lets try to fix the misplaced ones. And meanwhile lemme add a few Greek and Turkish POPs to Egypt.
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