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Humm it explanes why italy is split.


New idea: making an off-map country that will be more like an underground group, uniting all nationalist forces of countries currently under occupation by the european union (or federation was it?).

After 1 or 2 years they would get around 20 free units, get some provinces around eu and declare on its occupier.

Good idea!
There are two U-tags still unused, one will go to "fake-USA" we discussed with Samuel and the another can go to the undergrounders.

Want to make a name, flag and even ministers for it?

I will start posting and searching for more ministers and leaders tonight. Mostly American, maybe even few finnish.

Good!

Yep. Me too. I'll try to make some for EU and annothers european states.
Oh, also, I've PMed Hannibal Barca 2 about the new World map, here is his answer:
HB2
"Im am sorry, but I really doesnt got time.. The time I have on my computer I already spend on General Grant's PTEP project, so I can't help you in long time unless you pay me lol :p"
Well, I PMed back saying our idea and if he knows someone that can make the job instead of him, and I'm waiting anwers... Well, if no, I'll try to find annother tutoral, but don't be too much condent, 'cause I've never made this, and will be the hardest moding job I've tried to make. I'm better in OOBs, pics, techs (team stuff, not techtree), leaders and mininsters.
So hurry hope someone help us. If no, well, I guess we will defeat Global Warming, witch is very good for you in Denmark and Netherlands:p

Creating a map is a difficult process. You are heroes of this mod if you finish the map, you know!

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I made a timeline for USA and Europe in Philosophy lesson (what else to do there?:D) and I finish it and post here soon.
 
Creating a map is a difficult process. You are heroes of this mod if you finish the map, you know!

Yep... Well, Hannibal seems to be more interested now, since I told him the project... But well, you know that map makers are almost gods here, and are more disputed than Middle East oil, so it will be hard to take him for us side of the force... But I'm at least trying to do it. I'll now try to contact with mummia and see if he can help us... Well, till there, we'll continue with the basic stuff, and if we complete this, the easiest job will be adapt the game to the newer map, just changing that stuff of nationalprovince and the rest... Well, wish me luck.
bye,
Sam
 
Timelines: Europe and America

2025: Last US soldier leaves foreign continent.

2060: First act of Union in EU; countries become puppets of Brussels.

2087: Finno-Russian war, which ends in Finnish defeat.

2088: Finland starts heavy co-operation with EU, which later lead to ideas about united EU.

2092: US Autonomy law increases autonomy of non-continental areas, such as Puerto Rico and Guam. California demands such rights, too.

2092: United States of South America formed officially in Lima, Peru.

2100: Monarchy in the United Kingdom is abolished following political and economical disasters.

2103: Ireland recieves Northern-Ireland. Wales granted full autonomy. Revolts in Scotland.

2105: Scotland declares independence, and is recognized by EU. England leaves EU. Scotland joins.

2106-2127: Silent years in Europe. Technology takes leaps, but political situation remains untouched.

2112: California granted Autonomy. Pepsi annexes Coca-Cola and US state declares Pepsi-Cola to be only allowed lemonade.

2114: Metropolis formed. USA loses 10% of whole population to the new trade federation.

2120: California declares independence. After being recognized by Canada, the latter gets invaded by USA.

2122: USA gains considerable areas from Western Canada, which are annexed by US states. War in California gets violent.

2127: Washington secedes.

2130: Mexico invades Southern USA.

2130: Some Southern states defect to Mexico, due to take-over by Latino majority in the states.

2132: Peace with Mexico. Mexico maintaints control over the states if took, but has to give control of Bay of California to California.

2133: Finland demands war against Russia. EU declines.

2133: Romania annexes Moldavia after pro-Romanian party is elected in the latter.

2134: After constant demands by Finland, EU starts armnament program, for in case of war with Russia which has become dangerously strong.

2134: All rest of Western states in USA declare independence. To avoid war, USA recognizes them.

2134: Due to crisis in USA and arms race in Europe, the Greatest Depression begins, and whole world economy falls rapidly.

2135: Swizerland goes bankrupt. EU countries form a Central Economy System to fight the Depression.

2135: Last drops of oil used. International disaster, especially in the un-prepared poor countries, gets violent.

2136: MacDonalds, world-famous US food and electronics chain, goes bankrupt.

2136: Famine in Midwest USA and South America.

2137: Midwest secedes.

April 3rd, 2138: Conflict between Baltics and Russia evolves into a war. Finland declares war upon Russia, and EU follows a day later. Jean de Luc, president of EU, declares WW3.
2138-1252: Third World War, mainly fought in Asia and Eastern Europe, cause huge manpower losses and technological breakthroughs.
2139: Second act of Union - European Confederation is formed.

2142: USA splits totally. In the infamous "D.C. Truce" the current (year 2260) borders of USA created. Texas delcares independence from Mexico, but with only 50% of the state.'

2142: St. Petersburg destroyed completely in largest aerial bombardment in human history; 1,400,000 dead. Finland occupied the city later that year. Russian war effort about to collapse, but Chinese help prevents collapse.

2145: Canada splits into Canada, Quebec and Newfoundland & Maritimes.

2148: Russian front collapses. EC troops invade deeper into the country. Russia launches massive bombardment campaign, killing hundreds of thousands around Europe.

2152: Russia surrenders, WW3 ends.
2153: Peace of Berlin. Russia is dissolved and territories are granted to many countries, especially Poland.

2155: Baltic State, Belarus and Latvia officially formed and re-formed. Latter two ends up as puppets of Poland.

2155: Finland leaves EC due to unfair peace; Finland didn't get back territories lost in the Finno-Russian war.

2156: It turns out that EC has no plans for letting Europeans rule independently again. Revolts in Germany.

2160: USA is removed from the list of Superpowers. The country falls into decline and isolation. In Alaska man named Peter Sandster founds "Revive America Society" which later will lead into establishment of "Democratic Republic of America".

2160-2260: "Hundred Years of Silence" in USA. Country is saved from total destruction, but chances to regain the 50 states seem lost.

2162: Romanian Revoltion; in order to gain independence, insurgents in the country start striking and use violence. EC sends in the tanks and defeats the revolution, but the damage has been done; most distant EC countries start shaking.

2168: Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia and Hungary declare independence. Poland renounces the co-operation pact with EC. (Poland was only EU country not to be annexed to the Confederation.)

2169: Revolts in Germany. EC starts large-scale propaganda campaign in core areas. Capital moves to Amsterdam after an election in order to make Europeans believe that they are not ruled only from Brussels and France (which is false).

2171: Germany declares independence, but fails to gain all parts of the country. After a short military campaing they also convince Italy to declare independence, but Italy too fails to gain all parts of the country.

2178: Sweden and Norway declare independence, but with limited success. Only a war will help them to gain most of the countries. EC maintains a strong military control over the rest of the countries. Denmark shows no interest in independence.

2180: Spain declares independence, but counter-revolution returns it to EC. Insurgency campaign, known as the "re-reconquista" starts in Seville.

2100-2200: Globalization fades and ends.

2180-2220: 40 years of stable progress. Finland turns into a military dictatorship (2201). Right-wing radicals rise to power in England.

2220: United Nations is abolished.

2221: Revanchist movements in Russia.

2222: EC recognized the rebel nations in 22.22 o'clock in 22nd day of February. Five-day celebration in free Europe.

2223: USA founds "American Commonwealth", which surprisingly gains considerable support in former States. 5th Mexican-States war ends in a truce, which will last for many deacades.

2224: A charismatic man rises to power in Haiti, and the country conquers most of Caribbean. "Museum of Socialist History", largest museum to date opened in Havana, communist Cuba.

2230: Steady rise in USA. John Newman, future hard-liner president of USA enters politics.

2231: Internationally famous army training station "Counter-Strike" closes it's doors for the last time in Pensylvania, USA. The digital combat training discs are sold to various countries.

2232: Germany, Italy, Sweden and Norway forge a secret alliance in order to capture more areas from EC.

2233: Revolts in Greece; EC sends in the tanks, crushing the revolt.

2234-2250: Population in Europe rises for first time in centuries, for unknown reasons.

2238: Scotland and Ireland leave EC after it had failed to convince England to stop harrassing it's neighbours.

2240: England turns into a complete dictatorship, led by the "Overlord".

2243: EC capital moves to Paris.

2240-2259: Decades of no wars, but massive arms race in Europe.

2260: ANNO 2200 begins.

More will be added, such as Brazil's timeline.

I will make seperate timelines for technology and other continents too.
 
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2112: Pepsi annexes Coca-Cola and US state declares Pepsi-Cola to be only allowed lemonade.
:rofl:

Druged to ensure people's loyalty? :p
 
Awesome timeline. WW3 seems OK.
Well, I don't know you, but there is an unbelivable thing there... Pepsi taking control of Coke? NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!We all know that Coke's newer invention, Zero, isn't too good, but it isn't Pepsi, it just taste as it...:D
And hey, can someone show how siberia region will look like, cause that map don't show...
Should I make Brazil's time line, or you preffer to make this, Finn?
 
Awesome timeline. WW3 seems OK.
Well, I don't know you, but there is an unbelivable thing there... Pepsi taking control of Coke? NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!We all know that Coke's newer invention, Zero, isn't too good, but it isn't Pepsi, it just taste as it...:D
And hey, can someone show how siberia region will look like, cause that map don't show...
Should I make Brazil's time line, or you preffer to make this, Finn?

I like Coca Cola myself too but I thought it's better this way since Pepsi was originally intented to crush CocaCola in it's own market :D

You can make the Brazil history, and I'll add it to the timeline, ok?
 
siperia.jpg

Siberia will have only ministers named "International Protection Council", the country will not have techteams and all provinces have 0% infrastructure and IC.
 
I'd like to see a WC with Siberia. ;)

When did the Celtic Isles (England/Ireland/Scottland) leave the EU/EC?

Also, I don't think the German/Italian/Swedish/Norwegian alliance would be a secret from the EC because it would apparent that former parts of the EC would want all of their former lands back.

Plus, wouldn't mainland Scandinavia unify to expel foreigners? :confused:
 
I like Coca Cola myself too but I thought it's better this way since Pepsi was originally intented to crush CocaCola in it's own market :D

You can make the Brazil history, and I'll add it to the timeline, ok?

Awesome.
Here is the basic:
2009: Felipe Massa won in Interlagos, and is the newer Formula 1 champion.
2010: Lula's government approve the quarta vez ( "4th roll" ) solution: A president could be elected 4 times in a roll...
2024: Brazil's economy gets into a bost and is now a "prime world" nation.
2030: PSDB is now in power, after the death of Lula.
2050: Brazil see that South America is uniting and refuse to get in.
2050 / dez: French Guiana delares independence. EU didn't do nothing.
2051: Guianas desagree to unite with the remaining south america.
2055: The Guianas decide to Unite by themself, the UGN (United Guiana Nation)
2076: Mercosul is solved.
2087: New Mercosul is formed with Uruguay, Brazil and UGN.
2092: RASU (Republica de la America del Sul Unida, is spanish dam!), your USSA is formed.
2100: Uruguay defecs from New Mercosul and join in RASU.
2105: Brazil unite with UGN to face the RASU, but don't change the name.
2120: Brazil decides to not intervene in 2nd USA civil war.
2134: "O óleo não é mais nosso?"( the oil isn't anymore us?) campaing goes all around Brazil. Petrobras is still there, but with a lot less power.
2145: 200 years after WW2 ends, Brazil choose not to intervene in WW3.
2160: Brazil's 2nd referendum: choosing a way of government... In final days, damocracy is apointed to be too corupted because of Petrobras crisis. the Orleans-Bragança Family regains power, but with a parlament to help, just like old Prussia pre unification.
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Later I'll write more.:)
 
Well, if you can make a lot of the timeline happenings, we can make it completely seperate section. I put a link to your post in OP.
 
I'd like to see a WC with Siberia. ;)

When did the Celtic Isles (England/Ireland/Scottland) leave the EU/EC?

Also, I don't think the German/Italian/Swedish/Norwegian alliance would be a secret from the EC because it would apparent that former parts of the EC would want all of their former lands back.

Plus, wouldn't mainland Scandinavia unify to expel foreigners? :confused:

Good to see you again :)

Oops, I forgot the Celts :eek:o
I'll add them to the timeline.

You are true about the alliance. EC is expecting a war between it and the rebels (as EC calls them). In-game the alliance will be only non-aggression pacts and military accesses, since Poland will be the Axis leader and will invite the little-Axis into the greater.

We can make events for united Scandinavia, but Finland would not be part of it since it's common misconseption that Finland has something in common with Sweden, Norway and Denmark. But Swede-Norwegian alliance and later conquered Denmark would make a good union.
 
Swede-Norwegian alliance and later conquered Denmark would make a good union.
Hi Neon, good to see you don't died.:)
Yep, the alliance is know... But well, about it's name... What about Reunification Alliance? Or just Rebels?
And well... I'll change EU nationalprovinces in OOBs Finn, why can't they claim all europe? It's in their flag, so it's national, dam!:D
 
Oh, and here is the remaining Brazil's timeline.
2160: the 3rd Empire is formed, but the national name is still Brazil.
1/1/2160: the coronation of Carlos I, long live to the Emperor.
2161: The old flag of 2nd empire is now the national flag.
2167: Carlos I die in a Rollercoaster acident.
2167: his son, Pierre, is coronated Pierre I.
2187: Pierre I die by normal causes.
2187: his son, Luiz I is coronated emperor.
2200:Luiz I die by a heart attack
2200: his son, Carlos II goes to throne.
2219: Carlos II die in a car accident in São Paulo.
2219: his son, Luiz II assume the throne.
2254: Luiz II, the greatest king of brazil, that relived the economy died by normal causes.
2254: Luiz III assume the throne let by his father.
2256: Sérgio Spellmann wins the election for Prime Mininster.
2260: ANNO 2200 STARTS!

what you think about?
 
Time line for Turkey

2010 - Kurdish uprising in South-Eastern Anatolian region gets supressed by the goverment.
2011 - Kurdish terrorist group PKK bombs the Turkish ministery building 47 politicans + the President gets killed
2013 - PKK detonates a 'Dirty Bomb' in Istanbul 400 000 civilians gets killed by cancer in the next 5 years, 14 million people evacuates the city
2014- An organization called 'The grey wolves' coups the goverment Ultrarightist cainet is installed
2020 - After 6 years of fighting Turkey officialy wipes out PKK and brings peace to South eastern Anatolia
2034 - Turkey announces that they back down for the EU membership
2041 - Without Americans in Iraq Turkey wants its Kuvay-i milliye (national forces) borders and demands Mosul Kirkuk and Cyprus. No one accepts
2060 - Turkish nuclear reactor Atatürk explodes in Treibzond completely wiping out %70 of the city
2097 - 'Conscription for the land ' law which states that every Turkish male who had his 16th birthday has to do his soldiership and gets a standart issue rifle to use in a act of war. If the rifle is used in a killing at peace time the owner gets executed or expelled from the country.
2120 - Turkey isolates itself from the outer world.
2138 - All men in the service age is called to do their military service Turkish personel number are repersented by some 100 million medium trained men
2139 - Turkey decides to stay out of the war because they knew that they would suffer the consuquences
2160 - Private endustry in Turkey goes bankrupt goverment takes control of the economy
2200 - Construction of The Turkish Wall starts which turns Turkey in to a fort (Huge forts and AA systems)
2221- Turkish Purple Beret special forces starts assasinating important people all over the world
2222- Ukranian president is killed a week later after they shut the gas trading
2223- Turkey becomes a self-sufficent nation
2224- Turkish Wall is finished
2240 - Coup attempt is tried by The Grey Wolves (right wings) and gets supressed they are declared terrorists
2245 -All of the members of the Grey Wolves are killed
2260 -Anno 2200 !



Sliders for Turkey

3 right wing
10 authoritharian
10 central planing
10 hawk lobby
10 isolationist
 
Hebelecan dude, it seems you turks don't have good luck, do you?:D 'Cause my God, if brazil gets like that, I would run away for a better coutry, maybe back the Spellmann family to germany...
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And Finn dude, so Siberia will be what, a nuclear desert? 0% infra is very low... put 30%... and IC too... low is good, but 0 is terrible... put 7...
 
Thanks Heb for Turk timeline :D
*linked*

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Siberia will be 0 because.. Well, it's very painful battlefield. But we can leave it to the vanilla values, so that WC is possible.

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You can add the new cores for EC. It's indeed logical.
 
siberia will be 0 because.. Well, it's very painful battlefield. But we can leave it to the vanilla values, so that wc is possible.

ok.
Guys, I have some bad news to say: Mumia is too busy too... Well, I'll try to learn something about map moding again, and it will be possible to aply, but first I must learn something... Till there, this idea is dead. Also, I'll wait till Hannibal decides if he will help us in a far away future or never...:( Well, if ocasionally I learn something, I report to you and the Sunk world map will be relieved...:(
Well, also Finn, I'm in letter C in OOBs files... I guess till I come back to school they'll be finished...
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Neon, I'm still waiting your pm...;)
 
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Damn I'm so addicted to this mod :D

Progress has been declared as 11% by the way, as loadingscreen and more ministers are complete.
 
Good idea!
There are two U-tags still unused, one will go to "fake-USA" we discussed with Samuel and the another can go to the undergrounders.

Want to make a name, flag and even ministers for it?

Humm name, Chained Eagles or plain Freedom Fighters.

Ministers and leaders should be like french leader 1 - 2 - 3, spanish leader 1...
Since its an underground group, revealing the names of its members or leaders would put them to high risks :p

Flags, choose one (need to be changed to flag and shields format though):
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j197/JRHindo/Untitled-1-1.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j197/JRHindo/Untitled-2.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j197/JRHindo/Untitled-3.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j197/JRHindo/Untitled-4.jpg
I like the first one simple and effective.

The undergrounders should be the leader of the "secret" alliance between scandinavia, germany and italy.