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event below , MIGHT need a tweak, although correct, it leads to unwanted alliance for athens after they break the vassalation with the TUR.

I would like the TUR to break the vassalation, when they are ready

#(1453) Young Lovers
event = {
id = 117005
trigger = {
exists = TUR
}
random = NO
country = ATH
name = "EVENTNAME117005" #Young Lovers end Athens
desc = "EVENTHIST117005"
#-#Mehmet II of the Ottoman Empire intervened at the insistence of the Athenian people on the behalf of the young duke Francis and summoned Bartolommeo and Chiara to his court at Adrianople. Another Acciajuoli, Francis II, was sent to Athens as a Turkish client duke and Chiara thus deprived of her power in the city. Evidently, the citizenry had mistrusted the two lovers influence over the young duke, for whose safety they may have feared. The new duke had Chiara murdered in 1454 at Megara and Bartolomeo appealed to the sultan for justice. The sultan outraged that Francis II took measures in his own hands, decided to take Athens into Turkish hands and Francis II deposed.

date = { day = 0 month = march year = 1453 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 0 month = october year = 1458 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME117005A" #Francis rules his way
command = { type = relation which = TUR value = -100 }
command = { type = breakvassal which = TUR }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = -10 }
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME117005B" #keep paying the turk
command = { type = relation which = TUR value = 30 }
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 48 }
command = { type = ADM which = -1 value = 48 }
command = { type = treasury value = -100 } #tribute
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
}

NOTE: this is for testing for a scenario, on what happens , if athens remain a vassal of the TUR.

My aim is for TUR to break vassal and then DOW athens very quickly afterwards.
 
also

historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = 0121305 }
category = monarch
name = "Karadjordje"
startdate = {
day = 13
month = february
year = 1804
}
deathdate = {
day = 20
month = september
year = 1813
}
rank = 0
movement = 2
fire = 3
shock = 4
siege = 1
dormant = no
}


not many leaders have more than 1 for seige , so these are my recommendations

was
movement = 5
fire = 6
shock = 6
siege = 3
 
Toio said:
i agree with tunch and michaelM , the guy is way "overpowered"


this is my numbers for him

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 0121041 }
startdate = {
day = 13
month = february
year = 1804
}
deathdate = {
day = 20
month = september
year = 1813
}
name = "Karadjordje Petrovic"
DIP = 4
ADM = 4
MIL = 6
dormant = no
remark = "Black George - Fled to the Austrian Empire in 1813"
}


and i am still a bit too generous
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I'd go for 3/5/6 stats. He didn't really care about diplomacy much and he was a merchant between the soldiering and the rebellion so he should have some experience with administration.
 
Post #594 (to go with post #592 and #602 for submission) updated with 3-5-6 for stats.

In this case, isn't last monarch overpowered too:
Code: 
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0121042 }
	startdate = {
		day = 20
		month = september
		year = 1813
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 13
		month = june
		year = 1839
	}
	name = "Miloš Obrenovic"
	DIP = 8
	ADM = 7
	MIL = 8
	dormant = no
}
 
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Definitely. I'd go for 6/6/3 with Miloš Obrenovic. He achieved autonomy of Serbia through diplomacy and was a merchant during his whole life before the uprisings. He achieved fewer military victories than Karadjordje and only became a leader of the Second Uprising because he was one of the few not to flee Serbia after the first one.
 
a core on ragusa for albania causes 2 problems


1. ALB never ally with VEN as per the historical skandenbeg alliance with VEN

2. ALB dow VEN when VEN is at war somewhere else which leads to ALB being annexed by VEN or an early (pre 1444) ALB/TUR war against VEN/TOS/SAV (or VEN/PRM/TYR/WUR ) which leads to losses for TUR

i suggest

country = {
tag = ALB
ai = "SmallTrade0.ai"
colonialattempts = 0
colonialnation = no
major = no
colonists = 0
cancelledloans = 0
extendedloans = 0
treasury = 100
inflation = 0
merchants = 0.083333
religion = { type = catholic }
culture = { type = albanian }
diplomacy = {
relation = { tag = TUR value = 175 }
relation = { tag = ATH value = 140 }
}
knownprovinces = {
1614 #Pope
1609 1610 1611 1612 1613 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 265 270 271 272 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 806 819 820 821 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 979 980 981 982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 990 991 992 993 994 995 996 997 998 999 1000 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1057 1058 1326 1327 1331 1361 1362
}
ownedprovinces = {
361
}
controlledprovinces = {
361
}
nationalprovinces = {
361 362
}
city = {
 
We will have to change revolt.txt too:
Code: 
ALB = { #Albania
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
	expirydate = { year = 1820 }
	minimum = { 361 }
	extra = { [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue]362[/COLOR] }
	capital = 361
	group = orthodox
	ai = "SmallTrade0.ai"
}
=> no extra

EDIT: 16,000 posts! :cool:
 
Toio said:
a core on ragusa for albania causes 2 problems


1. ALB never ally with VEN as per the historical skandenbeg alliance with VEN

2. ALB dow VEN when VEN is at war somewhere else which leads to ALB being annexed by VEN or an early (pre 1444) ALB/TUR war against VEN/TOS/SAV (or VEN/PRM/TYR/WUR ) which leads to losses for TUR
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I see a problem with this because ALB has no less historical right to rule Ragusa province than VEN, TUR or SER. I think a better solution would be to make an event similar to SER_277000. Of course, it would have a different name (something like Lordship of Skhoder) and description (something stating why exactly ALB has a claim to the province). Action a would be "Leave it to Venice", like in SER event, and would give a nice relation boost between ALB and VEN which would make an Orthodox ALB joining an alliance with Catholic VEN more likely. Action b would be there to give ALB player more flexibility by letting him keep a core on Ragusa at the expanse of friendship with VEN.
 
Lord Grave said:
I see a problem with this because ALB has no less historical right to rule Ragusa province than VEN, TUR or SER. I think a better solution would be to make an event similar to SER_277000. Of course, it would have a different name (something like Lordship of Skhoder) and description (something stating why exactly ALB has a claim to the province). Action a would be "Leave it to Venice", like in SER event, and would give a nice relation boost between ALB and VEN which would make an Orthodox ALB joining an alliance with Catholic VEN more likely. Action b would be there to give ALB player more flexibility by letting him keep a core on Ragusa at the expanse of friendship with VEN.
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i do not care if ALB gets a core on Ragusa after the death of Skanderbeg, because it clearly heads to the breakup of VEN-ALB relations.

We can always add the core from 1469, but seeing games where ALB in alliance with TUR dow VEN and then get destroyed due to VEN and her strong alliances means we have an issue.

Besides, history has that , Skanderbeg ( on his death bed) said that the defence of albania interests goes to his closest ally ( venice) . I do not ask for a core for VEN on albania
 
YodaMaster said:
We will have to change revolt.txt too:
Code: 
ALB = { #Albania
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
	expirydate = { year = 1820 }
	minimum = { 361 }
	extra = { [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue]362[/COLOR] }
	capital = 361
	group = orthodox
	ai = "SmallTrade0.ai"
}
=> no extra

EDIT: 16,000 posts! :cool:
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we leave the revolt.txt as is and only change the date to
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1445 }

which would be after the TUR - ALB relations are finished. Then when ALB resurrects , it gets a core on ragusa, so be it. it will not interfere with VEN wars on its own.

If it never disappears, then it should get a core from 1469 on Ragusa
 
Because of TUR_301026, date in revolt.txt should be:
Code: 
date = { day = 11 month = november year = 1443 }
not after.

Code: 
#(1443-1468) The Betrayal of Iskander Bey
event = {
	id = 301026
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 361 data = -1 }
		atwar = yes
		NOT = { event = 104004 } #ALB: Albanian Independence
	}
	random = no
	country = TUR
	name = "EVENTNAME301026" #The Betrayal of Iskander Bey
	desc = "EVENTHIST301026"
	#-#

	date = { day = 11 month = november year = 1443 }
	offset = 90
	deathdate = { day = 17 month = january year = 1468 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME301026A" #We will have our revenge!
		command = { type = independence which = ALB }
		command = { type = trigger which = 104004 } #ALB: Albanian Independence
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 301084 } #TUR: The end of Albanian resistance -I-
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 301085 } #TUR: The end of Albanian resistance -II-
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME301026B" #We will never allow it to happen!
		command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = WAL value = -30 }
		command = { type = relation which = SER value = -30 }
		command = { type = relation which = TRE value = -30 }
		command = { type = relation which = BYZ value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = MOL value = -30 }
		command = { type = relation which = SPR value = -30 }
		command = { type = DIP which = -2 value = 12 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 361 } #Albania
		command = { type = revolt which = 361 } #Albania
		command = { type = population which = 361 value = -1000 } #Albania
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 361 value = 10 } #Albania
	}
}
#-#In 1443, during the battle against the Hungarians of Hunyadi in Nish (in present day Serbia), he abandoned the Ottoman Army and captured Kruja, his father's seat in middle Albania. Above the castle he rose the Albanian flag, a red flag with the black double-headed eagle, the present-day Albanian flag, and pronounced to his countrymen the famous words: 'I have not brought you liberty, I found it here, among you'.


EDIT: and there was a problem with HUN_188023 too but date is in 1444.
 
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YodaMaster said:
Because of TUR_301026, date in revolt.txt should be:
Code: 
date = { day = 11 month = november year = 1443 }
not after.

Code: 
#(1443-1468) The Betrayal of Iskander Bey
event = {
	id = 301026
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 361 data = -1 }
		atwar = yes
		NOT = { event = 104004 } #ALB: Albanian Independence
	}
	random = no
	country = TUR
	name = "EVENTNAME301026" #The Betrayal of Iskander Bey
	desc = "EVENTHIST301026"
	#-#

	date = { day = 11 month = november year = 1443 }
	offset = 90
	deathdate = { day = 17 month = january year = 1468 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME301026A" #We will have our revenge!
		command = { type = independence which = ALB }
		command = { type = trigger which = 104004 } #ALB: Albanian Independence
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 301084 } #TUR: The end of Albanian resistance -I-
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 301085 } #TUR: The end of Albanian resistance -II-
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME301026B" #We will never allow it to happen!
		command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = WAL value = -30 }
		command = { type = relation which = SER value = -30 }
		command = { type = relation which = TRE value = -30 }
		command = { type = relation which = BYZ value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = MOL value = -30 }
		command = { type = relation which = SPR value = -30 }
		command = { type = DIP which = -2 value = 12 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 361 } #Albania
		command = { type = revolt which = 361 } #Albania
		command = { type = population which = 361 value = -1000 } #Albania
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 361 value = 10 } #Albania
	}
}
#-#In 1443, during the battle against the Hungarians of Hunyadi in Nish (in present day Serbia), he abandoned the Ottoman Army and captured Kruja, his father's seat in middle Albania. Above the castle he rose the Albanian flag, a red flag with the black double-headed eagle, the present-day Albanian flag, and pronounced to his countrymen the famous words: 'I have not brought you liberty, I found it here, among you'.


EDIT: and there was a problem with HUN_188023 too but date is in 1444.
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ok on november date

should we try an alliance for ALB with VEN group from skanderbeg era ?
 
Lord Grave said:
Good relations are a must even if alliance command is used. Orthodox ALB will dishonor the Catholic VEN at first opportunity if there is no relation boost.
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true, but we can let the engine decide this. the defafult core for albania on ragusa was the issue. i gladly accept albania to have a core after skanderbeg death.
 
YodaMaster said:
No, it isn't. But what could be the effects in EU2 terms?
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Well,I know that Katarina Zrinski negotiated with the French to help them,but they refused.If they agree,then I think that a war conflict between France and Austria would be possible.I think those events would cause a fall of stability in Austria by 1,and RR in Croatia (and I think Hungary) would rise.
Heres the Wiki page on it.
 
Only problem here is conspiracy failed ("neither well prepared nor well executed"). I'm not really sure Austria should "suffer" from this. Maybe we could model consequences of the failure for Croatia province according to the aftermath part of the article but not sure neither if influence could be important in EU2 terms.

Btw, we have a "Noble Revolt in Hungary" event from 1700 to 1713 and Croatia is not involved.
 
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#(1427-1428) Heir to the throne
event = {
id = 130006
trigger = {
NOT = { war = { country = BOS country = HUN } }
NOT = { war = { country = TUR country = HUN } }
exists = HUN
}
random = no
country = BOS
name = "EVENTNAME130006" #Heir to the throne
desc = "EVENTHIST130006"
#-#An opportunist by nature, Tvrtko II, Ottoman vassal, sought to break free from his master. In 1423, two years after his coronation, Tvrtko tried to form closer relationship with Republic of Venice. In 1424, a small Ottoman army raided Bosnia as a warning, but this didn't change Tvrtko's mind much. In 1425, Tvrtko II started negotiations with Emperor Sigismund to join the league against Ottomans. He agreed to Sigismund's demand to name Count Hermann of Cilli, one of most powerful Hungarian nobles, as his heir. The alliance with Hungary was delayed, however, because of Hungarian failures against Hussites in Bohemia. After punishing Serbia for dealing with Hungarians, Ottomans sent another raiding expedition into Bosnia in 1426. Determined to ally with Hungary, Tvrtko II named Hermann of Cilli heir to the Bosnian throne if Tvrtko dies without a heir or his heir dies without one. In 1428, Tvrtko II got even closer to his goals by marrying daughter of a Hungarian noble.

date = { day = 2 month = september year = 1427 }
offset = 10
deathdate = { day = 20 month = july year = 1428 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME130006A" #Ally with Hungary
command = { type = breakvassal which = TUR }
command = { type = relation which = TUR value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 100 }
command = { type = dynastic which = HUN }
command = { type = stability value = -1 } #Bosnian nobles are not happy with the possibility of strong foreign King
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME130006B" #Remain loyal to the Sultan
command = { type = sleepevent which = 188029 } #HUN: Bosnia submits
command = { }
}
}


event above changes
BOS was a vassal of 2 nations - TUR and HUN. with TUR the older one. when HUN warred with TUR , BOS broke the vassaltion with HUN so as to not antagonize the TUR
 
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