The Community Leader/Minister Improvement Project

Lots of Soviet generals. And thanks, Rangermike.

I think I'm going to wait before issuing a 1.4 release for Japan. One added picture, to me, isn't really worth an entirely new version number. Instead, I'm going to get to work on ... Italy, I think. Admittedly, some of those 0 skill generals deserve it (Soddu spent more time composing film scores in his office than he did leading his troops), but I think some of the low skill ones might not deserve it. After all, they were leading Italian troops/fleets and might succumb to Japan Syndrome.

So, if anybody finds Italian leaders left out of the main game, please let me know.

Sure, go ahead and use them for HIP. In fact, here's an open announcement: All work I/we do here is open for all mods to use. In other words, take it, put it in your mod, I'm more than happy to have my work available to more people. My only restriction is that you make sure to credit the CL/MIP for the changed leader files, and the names of the contributors (Right now, just me and Myth). In other words, it's great if you want to use our work, just don't claim it as your own. Also, if you are adopting these files for use in a mod, please post here and let us know.

As for tech teams - they come later. Maybe if there's enough demand for them, I'll do some before I finish up with leaders, but right now leaders are the focus. And speaking of that, I'm off to do some research on Italian admirals.

New Italian Leader File:

For Italy and the Italian Social Republic

Contains skill/trait changes on eight admirals and nineteen generals, adds thirteen admirals and nineteen generals left out of the Paradox list (three with pictures), and changes historical information on nine admirals and seventy-two generals. A detailed changelist can be found below the download link.


Latest version: Italy leader file v1.1

To download the latest file, click here.
To install it, do the following:
1) Download the file.
2) Unzip the file to any folder on your computer
3) Rename your current 'db/leaders/italy.csv' and 'db/leaders/socialitaly.csv' leader files to something else. Make sure to name it something you will remember. (If you have previously installed any version of the Italy leader file, this step may be skipped and the files will simply be overwritten)
4) Rename the downloaded 'new italy.csv' file to 'italy.csv' and 'new socialitaly.csv' file to 'socialitaly.csv'
5) Place the new 'italy.csv' and 'socialitaly.csv' files in the db/leaders folder.
6) Place the downloaded pictures in the gfx/interface/pics folder


Detailed Changelist for v1.0:

• Accoretti, Enrico - Added as Italian Admiral
• Bernotti, Rmeo - Added as Italian Admiral
• Brenta, Emilio - Added as Italian Admiral
• Campioni, Inigo - Changed to 2/6 Admiral, S added - Held his own against a superior British force under Andrew Cunningham at Calabria
• Casardi, Ferdinando - Added as Italian Admiral (Note: R.Adm date placed at 1930 - I don't know when he became one, but he was one in 1940. If anyone can find any information on him, please let me know)
• Cavagnari - Changed to 1/7 Admiral, high ideal skill added - credited with turning the Regia Marina into a credible and dangerous force in the Mediterranean, but scorned naval aviation, helping lead to its downfall - game stats represent his shortcomings but how close he came to getting it right
• da Zara - Changed to 3/6 Admiral - decisively victorious during Operation Harpoon, Italy's only real squadron-level victory of the war
• de Courten - Rear Admiral date changed to 1938, Vice Admiral date changed to 1941 - Changed to 2/5 Admiral, SW added - commander of Italian submarine forces, poorly translated page says he was awarded some nice medals including the Iron Cross Second Class for his naval actions
• di Cossata - name changed to di Cossato
• Falangola, Mario - Added as Italian Admiral with picture
• Fiorovanzo, Giuseppe - Added as Italian Admiral
• Iachino - Changed to 2/5 Admiral, S added - victorious in several engagements with the British fleet, though too timid to cause decisive victories
• Legnani, Antonio - Added as Italian Admiral with picture
• Mimbelli - Rear Admiral date changed to 1948 - Changed to 3/7 Admiral - delivered a convoy to Crete despite British naval superiority, commanded successful Italian forces in the Black Sea against Soviet forces, sinking submarines, a transport, and damaging the Molotov badly enough that it was not repaired until the end of the war
• Marenco di Moriondo, Alberto - Added as Italian Admiral
• Matteuchi, Pellegrino - Added as Italian Admiral with picture
• Nomis di Pallone, Amadeo - Added as Italian Admiral
• Parona - Rear Admiral date changed to 1941
• Porzio Giovanola, Guido - Added as Italian Admiral
• Riccardi - Admiral date changed to 1941 - Changed to 2/6 Admiral - Specialist in aerial warfare
• Sansonetti, Luigi - Added as Italian Admiral
• Thaon di Revel - Grand Admiral date changed to 1946

Detailed Changelist for v1.1:

• Admirals:
• Bergamini - Rear Admiral date changed to 1938, Vice Admiral date changed to 1939, Admiral date changed to 1941, Grand Admiral date changed to 1943 - Changed to Skill 2/5 Admiral, OG removed - Demonstrated some skill, won some commendations, didn't stick to rigid old doctrines
• di Cossato - Removed as Italian Admiral
• di Cossata - Removed as ISR Admiral
• Thaon di Revel - ISR Grand Admiral date changed to 1946
• Borghese - Changed to 3/7 Rear Admiral, SW added
• Generals:
• Adami-Rossi - Added as Italian and ISR General
• Ademollo - Added as Italian General
• Ago - Deathdate changed to 1960 - Didn't die in 1945
• Agostinucci - Added as Italian General with picture
• Alagia - Added as Italian General
• Aliberti - Added as Italian General
• Angioj - Added as Italian General
• Appiotti - Added as Italian General with picture
• Argentino - Added as Italian General
• Arisio - Added as Italian General
• Armando - Added as Italian General
• Armellini, Quirino - Lt. General date changed to 1942
• Armellini, Francesco - Added as Italian General
• Assanti - Added as Italian General
• Aymonnino - General date removed
• Azzi - Added as Italian General
• Bergonzoli - Mj. General date changed to 1937, Lt. General date changed to 1940, deathdate removed
• Borghese - Changed to Italian and ISR Admiral
• Babini - Added as Italian General
• Badino-Rossi - Added as Italian General
• Baldassare - Added as Italian General
• Balocco - Mj. General date changed to 1939, Lt. General date changed to 1940
• Balotta - Added as Italian general
• Bancale - Added as Italian General
• Barbasetti di Prun - Lt. general date changed to 1940, PL added
• Barbieri - Mj. General date changed to 1937, Lt. General date changed to 1939
• Basso - Added as Italian General
• Battisti - General date changed to 1946
• Bittosi - Changed to 2/6 General, PL added - Commanded the 133rd Armoured Division through Spain and North Africa
• Cadorna - Lt. general date changed to 1944
• Calvi di Bergolo - OD added
• Calzolari - Removed as ISR General - Brigadier-General, no appropriate commands
• Canale - Lt. general date changed to 1939, General date changed to 1941
• Caracciolo di Feroleto - Lt. General date changed to 1937, general date changed to 1940
• Carboni - Lt. general date changed to 1942 - C, PL, OD added - Commanded alpine brigades and later Italy's armoured-motorized corps
• Castellano - Removed as never achieved rank higher than Brigadier-General
• Cavallero - Mj. general date changed to 1937, Lt. general date changed to 1938, general date changed to 1940
• Cerio - Mj. general date changed to 1940, Deathdate of 1940 removed - Was a Prisoner of War in North Africa
• Cotronei - Should be removed as never achieved the proper rank, but special exception made because as a Brigadier-General he was commanding a division in 1940
• D'Oro - Lt. General date removed for ISR
• Dall'Ora - PL added - Tank commander
• Dalmazzo - Lt. general date changed to 1939
• Dapino - Despite only Brigadier, kept because commanded division - PL removed, C added - never commanded tanks, commanded alpine regiments
• de Carolis - Brigadier, kept because of command of division - Deathdate of 1941 removed
• de Simone - Mj. general date changed to 1939, Lt. general date changed to 1940
• de Stefanis - PL, OD added - Tank and artillery commander
• de Vecchi di Val Cismon - Brigadier, kept because commanded division in 1943
• d'Havet - Lt. general date changed to 1940 - C added - Commanded mountain divisions
• di Nisio - PL added - Commanded armoured divisions
• del Giudice - Removed as Italian and ISR General - Never achieved Mj. General rank or commanded divisions
• Fricchione - Lt. general date removed
• Gallo - Removed - Brigadier-General, no commands of note
• Gariboldi - Lt. General date changed to 1938, General date changed to 1939
• Gherzi - Mj. General date changed to 1942 - Brigadier-general but commissioned to command divisions. I think the Italians had problems promoting people before giving them larger commands.
• Gioda - Lt. General date changed to 1941
• Giovanelli - Mj. general date changed to 1940
• Gonzaga del Vodice - Removed (Brigadier-General, no commands of note)
• Grattola - Name changed to Grattarola - Lt. General date removed
• Grossi - Deathdate changed to 1941
• Infante - PL added - Tank commander
• La Ferla - OG removed - No evidence to support it, commanded motorized divisions
• Leonardi - Lt. General date removed for ISR
• Leone - Removed (Brigadier-General, no commands of note)
• Lorenzelli - Mj. general date changed to 1940 - Changed to 1/4 General, C added - Commanded a mountain division in France, seemed undeserving of 0/3 rating
• Lorenzini - Removed (Brigadier-General, never commanded divisions)
• Magli - Mj. General date changed to 1939
• Maletti - Removed - Brigadier-General, no division-sized commands
• Mancinelli - General date removed
• Mannerini - General date removed
• Marghinotti - Mj. General date changed to 1939, Lt. General date changed to 1942
• Marras - Mj. General date changed to 1930, Lt. general date changed to 1939
• Martinat - Mj. General date changed to 1940 - Brigadier-General, but commands of note - Deathdate of 1943 removed
• Masina - Deathdate of 1942 removed
• Messe - Deathdate of 1947 removed - Retired in 1945, but most likely would not have had the war not ended with an Axis defeat - DD added - Very successful in his defensive campaign against the advancing American and British forces in early 1943 while in de facto command of Rommel's North African army
• Molimero - Removed - Brigadier-General, no division-sized commands
• Molinari - Deathdate of 1940 removed
• Monacci - Removed - Brigadier-General, no division commands
• Montagna - Mj. General date changed to 1943 for Italy, Lt. General date removed for Italy and ISR
• Morigi - Mj. General date changed to 1944, Lt. General date removed, General date removed
• Navarra-Veggiani - Removed - Brigadier-General, no relevant commands
• Nasi - General date changed to 1930
• Navarini - Mj. General date changed to 1939, Lt. general date changed to 1941 for Italy and ISR; General date removed for ISR
• Niccolini - Name changed to Nicolosi
• Orlando - Lt. General date changed to 1942
• Oxilia - Mj. General date changed to 1930, Lt. General date changed to 1944, General date removed
• Pariani - Deathdate of 1943 removed
• Pergui - Name changed to Perugi - Mj. General date changed to 1939 - C added (commanded mountain divisions)
• Pialorsi - Lt. general date changed to 1945
• Piatti del Pozzo - Lt. General date removed for ISR
• Pignetti - OG added - Commanded troops in WWI
• Pittagula - Mj. General date changed to 1942 - Brigadier-General commanded a division in Russia in 1942
• Rastrelli - Removed - Brigadier-General, commanded Blackshirt Legions but never actual divisions
• Re - General date removed
• Ricci R. - Lt. General date removed for ISR, deathdate set to 1956
• Ricci U. - Removed - Brigadier-General, no notable commands
• Roatta - Lt. General date set to 1936
• Romegialli - Lt. General date removed for ISR
• Rossi A. - Lt. General date changed to 1938
• Scattini - Skill changed to 2/5 - Commanded an airborne division during Messe's skillful fighting withdrawal through North Africa
• Soddu - Ideal skill lowered to 0 - Spent more time composing opera music in his office than he did commanding his troops, incredibly inept when he did decide to do so.
• Tellera - Lt. General date changed to 1939, deathdate of 1941 removed
• Tricoli - Removed - Brigadier-General, no division commands
• Tringali - Lt. General, General dates removed - Added as ISR General (defected)
• Vecchiarelli - PL removed - Only commanded an armoured division once, for several months in 1939, never saw combat with it
• Volpini - Lt. General date removed
• Zingales - Changed to 2/5 General, PL, OD added - Commanded various armoured, motorized, and mobile corps in North Africa during Messe's brilliant withdrawal.

Contributors: Phoenix Dace, Myth









I had no idealistic hopes of turning the Italians into super-admirals. Even so, this is still a bit sad.

If anyone can find the following things, they would help greatly:

1) Whether Paradox's Brivonesi is Bruno or Bruto
2) Detailed dates for promotions for any of the twelve admirals I have added. After Casardi, I just took to placing their promotion date as the year of their first command.
3) Changes for Italian generals and air marshals, who are next on the list

Thanks!

Hmm ... All right, I'll remove di Cossato. I can't find anything about him, so I'll just trust you on this. And Borghese I'm going to change when I do generals, which will probably be part today and part tomorrow. Expect an Italy 1.1 release by Wednesday.

Myth said:

here ya go

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Funnily enough, that's the same site I used to find all those admirals I added. I didn't know it was so in depth about so many subjects (Going by what I saw about submarines, if it provides that much detail about everything...).

I'm afraid there's nothing I can do about that as I don't run the site that I'm using to upload the files. Both the files work fine for me. Best I can offer is to try again later and refresh the page if that comes up again.

Also, I'll probably get some Italian generals done tonight. Sorry about the delayed release of Italy 1.1, but I've been too busy playing the game to mod it.

Thanks, Aggressor. That reminds me, not only to get working on the Italians but also to say something: I said earlier that it was fine to use these lists in whatever mod you want provided you give us credit.

One more thing ... it would be nice if you would post here and let us know, as well. Even though I'm fine with whoever using these for whatever, I'd still like to know where my/our work is being used.

As for MacArthur, I don't believe I'm judging him too severely. I'm going by WWII performance, mainly because it's what the game is based around and I'm no expert on Korea. But during WWII, MacArthur was probably the most inept general of the Pacific theatre, on either side. His defence of the Philippines was one of the finest displays of stupidity in the whole war (he spent most of his time holed up in a tunnel under Corregidor, leaving Wainwright to handle everything, worrying about getting various diseases and removing himself as much as possible from the actual combat), followed by his singleminded drive to get back there culminating in some absolutely horrible plans that mainly focused on him trying to get to the Philippines no matter what the cost because he felt bad about his absolutely terrible performance when defending there. It's a good thing King and Nimitz vetoed his plans for 'drive from Australia to the Philippines without taking anything along the way' for the 'Island Hopping Pacific Superhighway' strategy instead.

As for Korea, I do recall that most of the strategic elements of the war involving MacArthur involved him repeatedly asking Truman if he could use nukes against the Chinese, and Eisenhower repeatedly vetoing this because, being smart, he knew it would bring the USSR into the war with their nukes. Not the brightest bulb, MacArthur.


Also, Myth, you're a machine when it comes to Soviet generals. When I get around to working on those, I expect the changelist to be huge.



Off to work on some Italians now.